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Post by Valtiel on Dec 7, 2015 23:20:54 GMT -6
I prefer the original design. I feel the new shoulder piece needlessly clutters Miriam's design and looks plain ugly. That being said it's not a huge difference, and I doubt it was meant to be any kind of censorship. I'm dreading the day that crap actually rears it's ugly head though.
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Post by Cale on Dec 8, 2015 22:41:30 GMT -6
Id like it better with her chest not exposed like that. Looks less in the style of the times and less believable. I think the infection should be shown more elsewhere instead... The face or more on the legs I respectfully disagree. She already has it showing on her legs, and I feel face tattoos detract from a persons identity. As for not being in style at the time, I will post some period appropriate attire.
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Post by Apollonian on Dec 8, 2015 22:59:04 GMT -6
I feel face tattoos detract from a persons identity. "Oh yeah?...well...uh...Let's just see if my fists detract from your face!"
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Post by Cale on Dec 8, 2015 22:59:51 GMT -6
I feel face tattoos detract from a persons identity. "Oh yeah?...well...uh...Let's just see if my fists detract from your face!" Exactly my point!
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Post by giwagiwa on Dec 9, 2015 11:34:26 GMT -6
That said, a shoulder/ clavical/ heart aren't sexual. No part of the body is sexual until the eyes of the beholder make it sexual. There's absolutely nothing sex-oriented about feet yet it's one of the largest sexual fetishes out there.
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Post by Jango on Dec 9, 2015 12:18:21 GMT -6
That said, a shoulder/ clavical/ heart aren't sexual. No part of the body is sexual until the eyes of the beholder make it sexual. There's absolutely nothing sex-oriented about feet yet it's one of the largest sexual fetishes out there. And that was precisely the point. Since literally anything can be sexualized, the devs should focus on how they want their characters presented and their story told, rather than combing through their work at every step searching for things that could be misconstrued as salacious. The only way to be sure that no one will sexualize something is to destroy it completely.
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Post by Apollonian on Dec 9, 2015 12:27:31 GMT -6
No part of the body is sexual until the eyes of the beholder make it sexual. There's absolutely nothing sex-oriented about feet yet it's one of the largest sexual fetishes out there. And that was precisely the point. Since literally anything can be sexualized, the devs should focus on how they want their characters presented and their story told, rather than combing through their work at every step searching for things that could be misconstrued as salacious. The only way to be sure that no one will sexualize something is to destroy it completely. General Dodonna: Well, Iga doesn't consider a small one-man fighter to be any threat, or he'd have a tighter defense. An analysis of the plans provided by Princess Xombiemike has demonstrated a weakness in the boobystation. But the approach will not be easy. You are required to maneuver straight down this castle hallway and skim the surface to this point. The target area is only two meters wide (thank Yoda they inflated it). It's a small thermal exhaust port, right below the main port (aka pecs). The shaft leads directly to the reactor system. A precise hit will start a chain reaction which should destroy the station. Only a precise hit will set off a chain reaction. The stain glass is ray-shielded, so you'll have to use proton torpedoes. Wedge Antilles: That's impossible! Even for a sweet computer rig. Luke: It's not impossible. I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16 back home, they're not much bigger than two meters. General Dodonna: Then man your controllers. And may the Force be with you.
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Post by XombieMike on Dec 9, 2015 12:33:26 GMT -6
Many Bothans died to get those plans...
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Post by Ciel on Dec 9, 2015 15:27:17 GMT -6
Why do people care so much about sexualization nowadays? For God's sake, if you don't like it, just don't buy/play/consume/whatever it.
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Post by XombieMike on Dec 9, 2015 16:17:25 GMT -6
I asked Ben Judd about censorship in the Bloodstained Community Broadcast. He did have some input about Gothic style.
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Post by Goobsausage on Dec 9, 2015 16:20:11 GMT -6
And that was precisely the point. Since literally anything can be sexualized, the devs should focus on how they want their characters presented and their story told, rather than combing through their work at every step searching for things that could be misconstrued as salacious. The only way to be sure that no one will sexualize something is to destroy it completely. General Dodonna: Well, Iga doesn't consider a small one-man fighter to be any threat, or he'd have a tighter defense. An analysis of the plans provided by Princess Xombiemike has demonstrated a weakness in the boobystation. But the approach will not be easy. You are required to maneuver straight down this castle hallway and skim the surface to this point. The target area is only two meters wide (thank Yoda they inflated it). It's a small thermal exhaust port, right below the main port (aka pecs). The shaft leads directly to the reactor system. A precise hit will start a chain reaction which should destroy the station. Only a precise hit will set off a chain reaction. The stain glass is ray-shielded, so you'll have to use proton torpedoes. Wedge Antilles: That's impossible! Even for a sweet computer rig. Luke: It's not impossible. I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16 back home, they're not much bigger than two meters. General Dodonna: Then man your controllers. And may the Force be with you. LANDO: Lord Vader, what about creative team and the backers? VADER: They must never again see Miriam's boobie. LANDO: Her sexuality was never a condition of our agreement, nor was losing David Hayter to this actor strike! VADER: Perhaps you think you're being treated unfairly. LANDO: ...No. VADER: Good. It would be unfortunate if I had to leave a garrison here. Vader turns and sweeps into the elevator with Boba Fett. Lando walks swiftly down another corridor, muttering to himself.LANDO: This deal's getting worse all the time. Many Bothans died to get those plans... That was actually for Miriam's other boob, the one covered by the shield generator on in Return of the Jedi.
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Post by Valtiel on Dec 9, 2015 16:55:48 GMT -6
What's with the Star Wars spam?
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Post by Goobsausage on Dec 9, 2015 17:11:15 GMT -6
What's with the Star Wars spam? OBI-WAN: Anakin, Miriam's character design is on-topic! The Star Wars references are on-topic! The "No Fun Allowed" side of the forums is an evil presence. ANAKIN: From my point of view, it is Miriam's boobies that are evil! It probably has to do with Episode 7 coming out soon, but expressing ideas or concerns in a fun way can help reduce tension and keep people from taking things too seriously or personally.
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Post by BalancedHydra on Dec 9, 2015 18:41:21 GMT -6
OBI-WAN: Anakin, Miriam's character design is on-topic! The Star Wars references are on-topic! The "No Fun Allowed" side of the forums is an evil presence. ANAKIN: From my point of view, it is Miriam's boobies that are evil! It probably has to do with Episode 7 coming out soon, but expressing ideas or concerns in a fun way can help reduce tension and keep people from taking things too seriously or personally. You were the Chosen One. It was said you'd destroy the Trolls, not join them. Bring balance to the Internet, not leave it in $hit.
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Post by dexter on Dec 10, 2015 14:19:26 GMT -6
Cosplay-wise it's an issue, I wonder if we have to change a costume for our Miriam already
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Post by Ciel on Dec 10, 2015 14:37:32 GMT -6
OBI-WAN: Anakin, Miriam's character design is on-topic! The Star Wars references are on-topic! The "No Fun Allowed" side of the forums is an evil presence. ANAKIN: From my point of view, it is Miriam's boobies that are evil! It probably has to do with Episode 7 coming out soon, but expressing ideas or concerns in a fun way can help reduce tension and keep people from taking things too seriously or personally. You were the Chosen One. It was said you'd destroy the Trolls, not join them. Bring balance to the Internet, not leave it in $hit. You sure know how to talk
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Post by XombieMike on Dec 10, 2015 14:55:01 GMT -6
You sure know how to talk.
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Post by BalancedHydra on Dec 10, 2015 15:40:21 GMT -6
Some of the best statements, jokes and whatnot are the ones you know you can't deny. I'm the kind of guy who values not only the intent but also the end result. Someone goes 1 +1 = 11 and I'd be WTF?!
Anyhow we need to get this topic back on track. Personally. I kinda like the extra shoulder clothing and the whole crystals sticking out of it look. We also got to keep in mind two things.
1) Are the visible crystals really ALL there is or are there pockets of them that conveniently hidden under her dress.
2) Camera distance. Are we going to be able to get those up close shots of Miriam while playing the game?
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Post by XombieMike on Dec 10, 2015 16:07:35 GMT -6
Yeah, getting back on track then.
1. They can spread all over the body, just like Gebel.
2. We don't know this yet, but showing close ups like this lends to the suggestion that she will be rendered close sometimes.
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Post by Goobsausage on Dec 10, 2015 17:38:48 GMT -6
Excellent point about the dress, just because we can't see the crystals it doesn't mean they're not there. Never really thought of camera distance or close-ups playing a big role either.
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