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Post by Gomorrah on Mar 13, 2016 15:21:32 GMT -6
Nudity doesn't bother me at all.
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Post by yoshi9048 on Mar 14, 2016 1:14:39 GMT -6
Depends on the rating they're going after. If they want T, probably a good idea to be really tasteful about covering the naughty bits. If they're going full hog into M, then I'd still be tasteful about presentation. (using ESRB ratings). If you're going with E10+: What? People have anatomy?
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Post by maddogg on Mar 25, 2016 10:21:55 GMT -6
In general I don't care...I mean hell I usually see myself or others naked on a regular basis, so why should I let fictional nuts or breastseses bother me? At the same time, this is most likely going to be a T-rated game, so nudity would serve no purpose for this type of game.
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Post by Rigel on Mar 27, 2016 10:29:19 GMT -6
I think nothing should stand between Igas's vision, so if nudity is required just do it, unless Iga considers the "T" to be more important. Im ok both ways.
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Post by roland84 on Mar 27, 2016 12:53:34 GMT -6
In Dark/Gothic style nudity pairs well!
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Post by Risada on Mar 28, 2016 10:52:38 GMT -6
I feel that my stance on nudity is irrelevant. My belief is, seeing as IGA is the creator, he should have the freedom to create the product he has set out to make, and not have censors get in the way of what he's trying to create. This. Whatever is needed for IGA to achieve his vision of the game, I will most likely support it.
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Post by samuraifoochs on Mar 28, 2016 13:20:45 GMT -6
If it's in IGA's vision, I'm all in. And I think optional fanservice is fine and maybe even good; having different ways for people to experience the game how they'd like, be it innocently or with a bit of lewdness, is cool in my opinion.
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Post by frazis on Mar 29, 2016 6:33:55 GMT -6
Hi guys, I'm new here. I think it is a quite controversial question. Many people think that nudity of women character is a form of objectification. I personally think that it could be an ingredient pleasant by players, like many other form of enterteinment based on women comeliness, as long as it treated with maturity.
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Post by purifyweirdshard on Mar 29, 2016 7:09:24 GMT -6
I mean, at most, these games have nude statues or sort-of nude enemies (succubi, Frozen Half) that are generally covered or have their parts barely obscured in some way. There's no precedent to expect something along the lines of The Witcher. With increased graphical fidelity, more will be shown and obvious, but given that we're most likely sticking to what has appeared in IGA's previous games, that shouldn't be a problem.
There was some censorship even back in the Nintendo days of background statues. We probably won't have to worry about that now, given similar are in the other T-rated games. Some crazy activist group could come down on us over Miriam's boobs and the succubus forgetting her underwear, but it's kind of a fringe concern. The controversy of the topic in the context of Bloodstained isn't really there imo haha. But topics like these get replies!
"7 Nude Classical Art Statues put in Gebel's Castle! You Won't Believe What Happens Next!!"
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Post by Goobsausage on Mar 29, 2016 22:27:12 GMT -6
I mean, at most, these games have nude statues or sort-of nude enemies (succubi, Frozen Half) that are generally covered or have their parts barely obscured in some way. There's no precedent to expect something along the lines of The Witcher. With increased graphical fidelity, more will be shown and obvious, but given that we're most likely sticking to what has appeared in IGA's previous games, that shouldn't be a problem. There was some censorship even back in the Nintendo days of background statues. We probably won't have to worry about that now, given similar are in the other T-rated games. Some crazy activist group could come down on us over Miriam's boobs and the succubus forgetting her underwear, but it's kind of a fringe concern. The controversy of the topic in the context of Bloodstained isn't really there imo haha. But topics like these get replies! "7 Nude Classical Art Statues put in Gebel's Castle! You Won't Believe What Happens Next!!" "Nude statue number 3 is a male. We don't know what its actual name is, but we're pretty sure it's a Greek statue. Wow! If you look at it from this angle, the leg is blocking the no-no bits... ...But if you look at it from THIS angle, the one guests are expected to enter the room from, his man-fruit is on full display! Cool! What a way to greet people! There is so much equal-opportunity nudity in Gebel's castle! Now here's a close-up on the statue's speedo zone! Those private parts aren't so private anymore. ...Amazing!"
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Post by rpx on Mar 30, 2016 17:08:27 GMT -6
After seeing this Go ham with the nudity. Otherwise he can say to hell with the western market and rightfully give the control freaks the shaft they deserve.
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Post by samuraifoochs on Mar 30, 2016 19:37:43 GMT -6
After seeing this Go ham with the nudity. Otherwise he can say to hell with the western market and rightfully give the control freaks the shaft they deserve. Um...what games/censorship is he even talking about?
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Post by crocodile on Mar 30, 2016 19:50:51 GMT -6
After seeing this Go ham with the nudity. Otherwise he can say to hell with the western market and rightfully give the control freaks the shaft they deserve. Um...what games/censorship is he even talking about? I'm not watching that video (that title seems like a bad omen) but basically the developers of Star Ocean 5 recently said they made some slight alterations to the outfit design of one of the characters (its not the character or the change you'd expect but you can google to find out what happened if you really care) because they were concern about criticism from the West. However, this wasn't a change to the Western version but also the Japanese version too which just came out. The awkward thing is that the change is SO SMALL and the nature of it something almost nobody would care about that this is only a "story" because the developers talked about it. It should also be clear those comments don't represent all Japanese gamers but rather a small subset from 2ch that got super made when they heard about the change. To be slightly fair, I might be annoyed if I heard changes where made to a Western made game in the Western Market (the important part of this) specifically because of concerns about Japanese sensibilities. Like GTA is often edited for Japanese release and I imagine a lot of GTA fans would be upset if those edits applied to the Western version of the game too. However, the nature of the actual change for SO5 is so insignificant that nobody should be really upset.
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Post by ghaleon on Mar 30, 2016 21:56:03 GMT -6
I've kinda learned to not trust whenever someone says a game got censored in this one small insignificant area.. Not that I'm accusing anyone here of lying particularly, just that I've seen these to be false on enough occasions that I feel like more evidence is needed to be reasonably sure from now on. I mean just for example I was recently told that the people who are opposed to the localization of Fire Emblem Fates is blowing it out of proportion and there's only 1 line changed in the game...When I've personally seen side by side comparisons of entire scenes featuring entire conversations being turned into like 8 lines of '... , ..., ..., ..." or some nonsense... or one scene talking about rescuing a dog that was injured or something, and I can't remember what it was turned into but I'm pretty sure rescue had nothing to do with it anymore... or one romance scene turned into something ridiculous like 'rghaghasgh, that's dragon for I love you'.
I'm not one of those people who puts their foot down and decrys a game as soon as any form of censorship is revealed either. For example I had no issues with what was done to Fortune summoners, and I adore the game.
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Post by Maker on Mar 31, 2016 12:14:00 GMT -6
...sigh...
I cannot emphasize how much any form of deviation from ones creative vision makes me want to hurl in the nearest trashcan. It won't stop me buying something. But it sure as hell will make me get "set on fire by lightning" levels of pissed off.
There is in my opinion onlynonenperson who can justify any of these changes that may or may not occur in Bloodstaineds specific arena. That's Iga. The minute he is dictated to "this doesn't work" I would pay an additional 60 USD on top of my already pledged amount to have a video of him slapping the shit out of those responsible.
As someone when is about the most amateur writer you can get. I have seen this multiple times where people make a noise about x not being "appealing to the masses and to chamge it." In which case I have told them no and walked away. Granted its not money for me its just a hobby. But I cannot imagine toiling away for years to have some cencus board or other person tell me how in have to observe things or create them. That is the worst thing you can do to alter a creative vision and suck any passion out of the creator.
Case in point. I have a YouTube channel and finally make recordings of games along with commentary and the occasional tutorial. When I was younger and didn't have the ability to create videos at all. I'd imagine in my head how badass something might be if suncednip just right or fit in well enough to the metal music I've listened to forever. Only to finally be capable of doing a good deal of the editing even with garbage software then finding out that in that time copyright laws and DRM have run so rampant that the only things I can actually use are specific things dictated to me via you tubes policy. When you imagine a scene or a scenario and the only thing going through your head is "A Touch of Evil" by Judas Priest and them you have to settle on some generic techno? Its not even remotely the same.
Granted different subjects than "nudity" I suppose but if the post is any inferrance, yeah I agree 100% with whatever Iga wants but if he indeed "goes ham"
#willimport
Because the vision of a creator is something that shan't be screwed with via public opinion.
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Post by giwagiwa on Apr 6, 2016 6:59:51 GMT -6
Hi guys, I'm new here. I think it is a quite controversial question. Many people think that nudity of women character is a form of objectification. I personally think that it could be an ingredient pleasant by players, like many other form of enterteinment based on women comeliness, as long as it treated with maturity. Although I gave the succubus as an example, no one said this topic was limited to females.
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Post by JoJo on Apr 6, 2016 7:20:30 GMT -6
People just can't handle nudity anymore is it?
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Post by Astaroth on Apr 6, 2016 9:30:46 GMT -6
People in the us have never really been allowed to handle nudity in a sane context especially when it comes to media, you show an instructional video on reproductive health and half the people will complain it showed genitalia, part of it will get huffy and walk out, another group will complain it doesnt represent absolutely everybody, the internet will make fun of it and troll the other groups with it, one group will try to ban it, another will demand it be shown while simultaneously trying to get it destroyed, one group will be covering it up screaming 'think of the children!', others will giggle at it and make crass jokes, and the last few people taking it seriously and want to know the info will be facepalming because now theres this huge spectacle over a picture of a persons junk
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Post by Ciel on Apr 6, 2016 10:48:39 GMT -6
People just can't handle nudity anymore is it? Unfortunately.
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Post by JoJo on Apr 6, 2016 11:43:43 GMT -6
The weird thing is that people got offended so easily with nudity on a polygon character... while I never see people that is loud about real porn videos (maybe they actually complained, but the other side just never care) Really a good logic right there, especially the guys
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