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Post by giwagiwa on Nov 30, 2015 17:42:55 GMT -6
Why post it in the game suggestions section though? It's a question, not a suggestion. It belongs in the game discussion board. My thought process is the question is only a means to bring about a suggestion from the community. The suggestion would be the poll results, and many of the other suggestions we've already seen in this thread so far, such as it being tasteful and fitting with the situation, etc. This thread has a lot of suggestions already. For example, "Go all out Iga and put whatever nudity fits your artistic vision!" is very much a suggestion. I could have worded the 2nd answer better, though.
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Post by Goobsausage on Nov 30, 2015 19:22:03 GMT -6
I get what you're trying to do and say, but the suggestions forum is more for discussions where someone brings a specific game idea or feature to the table and people build on it (e.g. Miriam having her own room in the castle). This is really more of an ongoing, open-ended discussion since you're asking for opinions.
Still, it is good to actually discuss if or how nudity should be done in Bloodstained.
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Post by Rixuel on Nov 30, 2015 19:41:41 GMT -6
im not a kid or a teen anymore... so... hehehe why not? xD
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Post by Cale on Nov 30, 2015 23:09:55 GMT -6
Nudity does not equal sexuality. Many fine works of art are full of nudity. The human body is nothing to shy away from, and in my opinion something to be celebrated. I want this game to have a feel for the era though, so I would assume there would be less nudity than say SotN should have had, but that would be alright too.
As long as nudity fits into the theme I see no reason to exclude it.
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Post by ghaleon on Nov 30, 2015 23:10:09 GMT -6
I don't think we really need an 'official community permission' thing to state iga can follow his vision for the purposes of nudity... that would kinda imply we don't want him to follow his vision for OTHER areas of design, which would be kinda silly.
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Post by giwagiwa on Dec 1, 2015 0:42:49 GMT -6
I don't think we really need an 'official community permission' thing to state iga can follow his vision for the purposes of nudity... that would kinda imply we don't want him to follow his vision for OTHER areas of design, which would be kinda silly. This poll isn't meant to be "permission" for Iga, more along the lines of a gauge of interest in a uncensored depiction of it, if Iga even feels like doing so. I'm sorry I know the wording of the poll makes it sound that way. It doesn't hurt Iga to know his fan's thoughts on what extent nudity should be used in a game.
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Post by gunlord500 on Dec 1, 2015 2:52:13 GMT -6
True enough, giwagiwa, but IGA and the Inti Creates staff also pay attention to other parts of the forum every now and then, so I don't think there's any harm in moving your thread from Suggestions to over here. If something more concrete gets thought up, maybe we can make another thread in Suggestions, but for now, as we're just gauging opinions, I agree with Xombiemike's moving of this poll. So enough about that, let's get back to the topic at hand...
I think Cale raises a good point--this game will take place in "Industrial-Era Europe," won't it? According to the campaign article, that's the late 1700s. While the notorious "Victorian" era would come later, it's important to note that even in the eighteenth century there were different standards of propriety depending on your socio-economic class and how you were raised. So depending on what sorts of people the alchemists who raised Miriam in the orphanage were--were they very concerned with maintaining their precarious social position, or did they spit on all social conventions?--the degree of modesty appropriate for her, given her background, might be different.
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Post by waifu on Dec 1, 2015 4:09:17 GMT -6
I really don't care. If someone thinks it improves the game in any way then add it.
I only start to care when it harms the gameplay, which I've never seen happy so it's not a big deal.
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Post by saberwolf94 on Dec 1, 2015 9:37:35 GMT -6
It shouldn't matter much or at least it doesn't matter to me. People like to say "if it adds something to the story character etc." If the creator feels like including it for any reason or no reason then it's their right for it is art. Also nudity is prevalent in most mythologies in one way or another so it isn't exactly out of place.
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Post by cecil-kain on Dec 1, 2015 18:54:03 GMT -6
I enjoy nudity of the female persuasion. All in good taste, of course.
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Post by nekurors on Dec 1, 2015 21:13:31 GMT -6
We all know if Iga uses nudity it will be for atmosphere sake, so there is no reason to restrict it. It is nothing else but a complementation to the details of the atmosphere and the world Iga wants to bring to life.
It seems naive to have anything against it, not to mention a option could be created to turn nudity textures on/off if the players doesn't like it, simple like that. About ratings and the young audience that's another misconception, if they are underage it will be their parents who will buy the game (since they have no money) and that means the restrictions are actually non existent (i never meet parents who really care about the ratings at all, except of course if it is pure or most porn).
Finally, nudity fits specific situations on igavania games, succubus and other demons are supposed to be exposed, not to mention gothic nudity on the archictecture and paintings around the castle.
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Post by Zechs on Dec 1, 2015 21:14:51 GMT -6
I have no problem with nudity. Iga isn't going to go all out and grotesque. And if it isn't a shared option, then there should be a game option to filter it or swap the texture. Everyone gets their way.
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Post by Goobsausage on Dec 1, 2015 23:17:44 GMT -6
I have no problem with nudity. Iga isn't going to go all out and grotesque. And if it isn't a shared option, then there should be a game option to filter it or swap the texture. Everyone gets their way. I can see that option being useful for people streaming the game or LPing it on youtube without getting flagged for mature content or anything similar to that.
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Post by Astaroth on Dec 2, 2015 0:23:15 GMT -6
I have no problem with nudity. Iga isn't going to go all out and grotesque. And if it isn't a shared option, then there should be a game option to filter it or swap the texture. Everyone gets their way. I can see that option being useful for people streaming the game or LPing it on youtube without getting flagged for mature content or anything similar to that. actually, just thought of a way to do that fairly easily, have an alpha flag on the coverup objects so when you set pg it shows up, dont have to make 2 different versions and youre less likely to end up with odd censoring since itll have been built at the time the model was made and not hastily slapped on like snes era editing
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Post by XombieMike on Dec 2, 2015 7:26:59 GMT -6
See, now that could be a game suggestion...
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Post by Dragon_of_Dojima on Dec 2, 2015 11:18:14 GMT -6
I just think he should do whatever he thinks he needs to do. Have no fear and go as far as necessary to get the point across. Whether it be the story, atmosphere, or even characters.
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Post by Ciel on Dec 2, 2015 15:17:36 GMT -6
I don't care, if the person who is creating the game (or any kind of entertainment material) wants to put something, whether nudity, sexual material, violence, or whatever, so be it. The producer's mind shouldn't be limited by this kind of dilemma, it's just a game dammit, a fictional story.
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Post by kirtap on Dec 5, 2015 0:38:04 GMT -6
I liked the amount that was done in IGA's earlier games. Some enemies were nude, like topless Medusa occasionally. I don't have a problem with nude statues either.
Ofcourse, there's presentation of how nudity is expressed. Not really a fan of fanservicy things, but maybe a gag like that odd lady attached to an eyeless reptile creature in SotN.
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Post by Elfina Ashfield on Dec 5, 2015 0:53:54 GMT -6
The game sets in the dark age, we have devils and monsters, and you're going to whip/slash all that things out of the world...
...a little bit of nudity won't harm I think, so bring it on.
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Post by Valtiel on Dec 5, 2015 1:05:10 GMT -6
I think Iga should go with his gut and follow his artistic vision for the game regardless of what any of the press would say about it or what rating it would stick the game with.
Personally I wouldn't want to see Miriam running around naked or anything, but I'd be fine with the monsters or other enemies being nude (either fully or partially) like the Castlevania games. But really it's Iga's call, and I'll respect his decision regardless of which direction he takes it.
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