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Post by Silver6986 on Mar 17, 2016 6:51:40 GMT -6
Wow, guess my vote really was a minority (C1/B3) and my vote wasn't even because I am 100% happy with what it was (it was an improvement over the original shader though), it was just preferable over a cartoon like depiction of Miriam against a realistic backdrop. I really hope they touch up the background art then, it's not even evident when you watch the video of Miriam twirling because you have no backdrop to frame it against, but it's such a conflicting contrast when held up against the existing background art seen so far. The character art itself though, wow! She looks amazing, can't believe some people are complaining about her top half either, blows my mind. Her back looks phenomenal :-) It's very GTA styled though. It's beautiful in its own right, but it doesn't feel right to me, not yet. But they aren't anywhere near finished so as the process matures I'm sure in time it will gel better with the background art (I can only hope). The best by far is still the shader blend Ciel posted I think: bloodstainedfanforums.com/thread/857/update-igas-brand-background-shaders?page=3 (halfway down the page) Silver
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Post by CastleDan on Mar 17, 2016 8:56:38 GMT -6
Wow, guess my vote really was a minority (C1/B3) and my vote wasn't even because I am 100% happy with what it was (it was an improvement over the original shader though), it was just preferable over a cartoon like depiction of Miriam against a realistic backdrop. I really hope they touch up the background art then, it's not even evident when you watch the video of Miriam twirling because you have no backdrop to frame it against, but it's such a conflicting contrast when held up against the existing background art seen so far. The character art itself though, wow! She looks amazing, can't believe some people are complaining about her top half either, blows my mind. Her back looks phenomenal :-) It's very GTA styled though. It's beautiful in its own right, but it doesn't feel right to me, not yet. But they aren't anywhere near finished so as the process matures I'm sure in time it will gel better with the background art (I can only hope). The best by far is still the shader blend Ciel posted I think: bloodstainedfanforums.com/thread/857/update-igas-brand-background-shaders?page=3 (halfway down the page) Silver That was the old character 3 design, the turn around video of her has been refined her colors less contrasted and she will probably look quite good in the background. VS are very different.
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Post by purifyweirdshard on Mar 17, 2016 11:57:39 GMT -6
It just irks me seeing comparisons to GTA/Borderlands as if they're the deafult of this style/share significant similarities...and I don't see that. I wouldn't even acknowledge it if it was true though given how I'm not a fan of GTA lol. And the word cartoony popping up still - what cartoon looks like a painted illustration moving around? Just personal biases and tastes for me, though.
When I saw "Miriam Turnaround", I actually read it as "Miriam Turnabout", like it was an Ace Attorney case lol. They're all named ____ Turnabout.
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Post by Scars Unseen on Mar 17, 2016 12:51:09 GMT -6
what cartoon looks like a painted illustration moving around?
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Post by Astaroth on Mar 17, 2016 14:56:57 GMT -6
Oh wow, that was really pretty
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Post by Silver6986 on Mar 19, 2016 8:35:11 GMT -6
@ castledan, good pickup and a fail by me. The contrast is more subdued, which is good, I guess for me I need either the background together or the different models together to pick up on the difference more immediately, you pointing it out helped. so thank you.
@ purifyweirdsoul, not sure about the GTA comment you make if that's a reference directly to my comment or if anyone else has made such comments. I must admit I haven't been lurking the forums anywhere near as much as what I did when the project was initially announced and unless I'm really inclined I don't feel a need to comment much or harp on about a particular subject.
But I can't see how anyone wouldn't see the top pick castledan posted in the reply to my comment and not draw similarities to that type of out style (GTA) with regards to the character model. I don't believe that is the art style the artists are necessarily aiming for, I'm not even sure where they are drawing their inspiration from outside of any Igavania works, but I'm only using the word 'cartoony' because it's a very stylised design aesthetic, which is a juxtaposition that doesn't work well, or as well as I would like personally, based on what we voted on in the last backer update (both a background shader and character shader),
It's all good though, I missed Mana's post and as I said above, a second more thorough look at Miriam's updated model really helped.
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Post by Mana on Mar 23, 2016 21:59:19 GMT -6
Well since crocodile mentioned about this month's update, here is what I wrote in another thread in case everyone else is also wondering. Hopefully we'll get an updated rom for this month's update by today or tomorrow. With Inti Creates at GDC and ArtPlay getting ready to move offices, we're kind of late with getting the materials. We're going to shoot for next week. We'll also be "recording" on Monday (according to plan) and once that's finished, we'll be sending the materials to Fangamer. We feel terrible for always giving Fangamer such a short amount of time to write up the KS Update (But they always do a great job!). Next month, I will need to keep reminding the team from the 2nd week. Thanks everyone for being patient and for being a wonderful group to work with!
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Post by crocodile on Mar 23, 2016 22:12:06 GMT -6
Well since crocodile mentioned about this month's update, here is what I wrote in another thread in case everyone else is also wondering. Hopefully we'll get an updated rom for this month's update by today or tomorrow. With Inti Creates at GDC and ArtPlay getting ready to move offices, we're kind of late with getting the materials. We're going to shoot for next week. We'll also be "recording" on Monday (according to plan) and once that's finished, we'll be sending the materials to Fangamer. We feel terrible for always giving Fangamer such a short amount of time to write up the KS Update (But they always do a great job!). Next month, I will need to keep reminding the team from the 2nd week. Thanks everyone for being patient and for being a wonderful group to work with! Recording? As in another Ask IGA? Or something else?
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Post by ReySol on Mar 23, 2016 22:19:58 GMT -6
Thank you, Mana ! It feels so exciting waiting for the updates and finding out all the little things about the development and the teams that are working on it. We are so lucky this is all happening. This kind of game has been my wish since Order of Ecclesia and now the fans have the opportunity to be close to the development. When Bloodstained comes out, it will already be a big part of our life The game is every day on my mind and I visit the forums daily because of the excitement that the game is being made.
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Post by Astaroth on Mar 23, 2016 22:34:12 GMT -6
Sweet, im curious if rom means what i think it means, looking forward to it ^_^
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Post by Mana on Mar 23, 2016 22:34:36 GMT -6
Well since crocodile mentioned about this month's update, here is what I wrote in another thread in case everyone else is also wondering. We'll also be "recording" on Monday (according to plan) and once that's finished, we'll be sending the materials to Fangamer. We feel terrible for always giving Fangamer such a short amount of time to write up the KS Update (But they always do a great job!). Next month, I will need to keep reminding the team from the 2nd week. Thanks everyone for being patient and for being a wonderful group to work with! Recording? As in another Ask IGA? Or something else? Nope, not exactly. You'll see soon!
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Post by crocodile on Mar 23, 2016 22:42:55 GMT -6
Recording? As in another Ask IGA? Or something else? Nope, not exactly. You'll see soon! Wait......does that mean......
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Post by Goobsausage on Mar 24, 2016 0:37:33 GMT -6
A mysterious recording of some sort? Let the speculation begin!I'm hoping it's something similar to the animation reference footage with IGA and the umbrella that was mentioned a while back. I'd like to see stuff like that included in an update at some point. Or maybe IGA got bored one day and said to himself "I should do an Ask IGA video that answers one important question, but do it in the style of a live-action Strong Bad email." He strikes me as the type of guy who would care about pre-youtube internet cartoons made in flash.
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Post by Scars Unseen on Mar 24, 2016 0:53:48 GMT -6
Okay! My outlandish prediction: When IGA said we'd be getting retro levels, he took that promise seriously, so we will need to hook up a cassette drive to play them.
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Post by purifyweirdshard on Mar 24, 2016 7:19:37 GMT -6
Hmmm! We're going to see video of IGA swinging the umbrella around?
"Everyone wanted to see an animation sample. An attack with this umbrella would look like this. Hyah!"
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Post by CastleDan on Mar 24, 2016 10:53:54 GMT -6
Sweet, im curious if rom means what i think it means, looking forward to it ^_^ im a noob. Tell me more about this 'rom'..and what it could mean
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Post by crocodile on Mar 24, 2016 15:02:21 GMT -6
Sweet, im curious if rom means what i think it means, looking forward to it ^_^ im a noob. Tell me more about this 'rom'..and what it could mean A ROM in this context is basically a copy of the game file executeable. If ArtPlay needs the rom to record something off of, the implication is that this would be anything from early gameplay down to character animations or a tour through the world as it has been developed so far. Regardless of which scenario is accurate, its reason to be HYPE (though some scenarios are more hype-inducing than others)
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Post by CastleDan on Mar 24, 2016 15:15:45 GMT -6
im a noob. Tell me more about this 'rom'..and what it could mean A ROM in this context is basically a copy of the game file executeable. If ArtPlay needs the rom to record something off of, the implication is that this would be anything from early gameplay down to character animations or a tour through the world as it has been developed so far. Regardless of which scenario is accurate, its reason to be HYPE (though some scenarios are more hype-inducing than others) Ah, I figured it was something like that, just wanted to make sure. Man, if that's the second update in the series of 3 god knows what the next one after it could be. I'm incredibly excited can't wait for next week ( that's the hope right?)
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Post by Astaroth on Mar 24, 2016 18:23:44 GMT -6
What crocodile said, im trying really hard not to speculate on my suspicions cause i dont want to spoil anybodys surprise if im right >_>
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