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Post by Kitti_W on Dec 8, 2015 8:37:48 GMT -6
Is it just me or the perspective votes slowed down after the "Doll house" comment? lol
I think perspective is great for open areas like forest, city, etc. Not so in a castle.
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Post by purifyweirdshard on Dec 8, 2015 9:00:26 GMT -6
lol, It was 6 and 6 when I voted, and now it's 10, in the span of 30 minutes. Maybe I'm that influential.
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Post by Ciel on Dec 8, 2015 9:59:32 GMT -6
I voted for perspective projection. I like the idea of using space for depth, but I don't want it to go overboard or go full dollhouse mode. You never go full dollhouse mode. Maybe like, 10-25% dollhouse mode.Is that even possible? lol
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Post by ChucklesTheJester on Dec 8, 2015 10:12:34 GMT -6
Thanks for the heads-up, Mike. I was on mobile when I voted so I couldn't post back then anyway, but yeah. My answer is pretty much "I prefer orthographic, but I trust Iga and team to deliver a fantastic game the way they envisioned."
Why isn't this second part an option on more polls, by the way? My opinion's that way on a lot of things.
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Post by Rixuel on Dec 8, 2015 10:23:18 GMT -6
my 2nd vote on orthographic :3
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Post by XombieMike on Dec 8, 2015 10:41:53 GMT -6
I'm thinking of hacking the shader 1 pic to remove the perspective, but the more I think about that the more I like perspective.
The choices of the poll are what I wanted to know, and I don't regret their wording, I just should have been more clear that you can pick either one or two options.
I considered making the options:
Orthographic Projection is better, but I trust whichever IGA chooses. Orthographic Projection is better and I would rather fight for this option.
Orthographic Projection is required for me to enjoy this game.
Perspective Projection is better, but I trust whichever IGA chooses.
Perspective Projection is better and I would rather fight for this option.
Perspective Projection is required for me to enjoy this game.
I think the same results happen with the poll I made depending on if the voter chooses two options or just one, but if someone is on the fence they can just let IGA decide.
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Post by Astaroth on Dec 8, 2015 11:42:10 GMT -6
Ortho works much better for outside or massive areas where you tend to have things far off in the distance, and then parallax scrolling completes the illusion of depth
Perspective works better on a smaller scale, where you have a large room or enclosed area with objects generally not more than 50 feet away, youre less likely to have parallax scrolling but areas tend to be trapezoidal to force depth
Im torn, ortho would give you a straight up 2d look but then everything would essentially be flat panels sliding around and in an area thats meant to be claustrophobic you cant have many panels, perspective works best on an interior scale and since theyll have 3d objects that can be scaled to distances fairly quickly i think its the way to go, i do agree such a steep angle like in the shader pics is a little too steep, but im curious to see how moving vertically in that space with a shallower angle might alleviate both the dollhouse effect but also allow the details in the distance and close to the floor to still be viewable
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Post by CastleDan on Dec 8, 2015 12:06:24 GMT -6
Here's the thing. Could the doll house method work? Sure.....but with the visual STYLE they're going for it currently reminds me too much of how Mighty no 9 looked. Whereas if you look at the prototype you just didn't get that vibe at all and it was much more familiar to IGAVANIA games. That's pushing my choice, i want it to look more IGAVANIA and less like Mighty No 9.
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Post by XombieMike on Dec 8, 2015 13:05:08 GMT -6
Total rush on this because I'm on lunch break, but I don't think I like orthographic projection anymore.
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Post by Ciel on Dec 8, 2015 13:09:17 GMT -6
Total rush on this because I'm on lunch break, but I don't think I like orthographic projection anymore. Hmm................... I like it, but I don't know why.
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Post by CastleDan on Dec 8, 2015 14:43:58 GMT -6
Total rush on this because I'm on lunch break, but I don't think I like orthographic projection anymore. Hmm................... I like it, but I don't know why. See I love that. It actually looks....2d. XombieMike You totally killed the tilt, even the prototype had some tilt. I think just a bit less of the tilt they have currently would be loads better.
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Post by Goobsausage on Dec 8, 2015 15:31:11 GMT -6
I voted for perspective projection. I like the idea of using space for depth, but I don't want it to go overboard or go full dollhouse mode. You never go full dollhouse mode. Maybe like, 10-25% dollhouse mode.Is that even possible? lol Well, that last sentence was really me trying to say "don't have too much tilt or distance in the background."
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Post by Sun of May on Dec 8, 2015 15:37:05 GMT -6
Orthographic all the way. If Perspective is used it will ruin the game in my opinion.
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Post by XombieMike on Dec 8, 2015 16:16:36 GMT -6
Orthographic all the way. If Perspective is used it will ruin the game in my opinion. Not even a little?
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Post by Valtiel on Dec 8, 2015 16:30:04 GMT -6
Total rush on this because I'm on lunch break, but I don't think I like orthographic projection anymore. I like this much better than the unaltered images. It actually looks like, you know, an Igavania game. Edit: Also I was refraining from voting on two options in the poll because I felt having two options kind of diluted/skewed the results, but since you're firm on wanting two choices per voter I threw my other vote behind the "let Iga do whatever the hell he wants option". Because as much as I'm championing orthographic perspective, I trust his (and the entire dev team's) judgement.
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Post by allooutrick on Dec 8, 2015 16:43:12 GMT -6
Total rush on this because I'm on lunch break, but I don't think I like orthographic projection anymore. looking at this has me certain the team knows what they're doing when it comes to the camera's placement.
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Post by Dragon_of_Dojima on Dec 8, 2015 16:59:25 GMT -6
Would it be impossible to do one perspective for some areas and the other for others?
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Post by Dan G. on Dec 8, 2015 17:27:02 GMT -6
I think if you make the camera orthographic and then give the game a more cel shaded look, it would be the best look for this game. You'd have a game that would truly look 2d.
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Post by Rixuel on Dec 8, 2015 18:01:07 GMT -6
Total rush on this because I'm on lunch break, but I don't think I like orthographic projection anymore. Personally, I think it looks good o.o
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Post by Zankoukanshokai on Dec 8, 2015 18:19:23 GMT -6
Total rush on this because I'm on lunch break, but I don't think I like orthographic projection anymore. This looks interesting. I still preferred the perspective projection even though orthographic projection is the popular one. But I think I'm fine either way but orthographic projection really brings back memories of the previous IGAvania games I enjoyed to the very core. Awesome image, BTW.
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