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Post by Lelygax on Aug 29, 2015 22:27:10 GMT -6
Seems the better option, or we could continue this in a dedicated thread if someone wants
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Post by Motoko on Aug 29, 2015 22:27:12 GMT -6
That was such a great panel! Really enjoyed learning the early concepts of the game and getting a deeper insight to the design process. Also, that new art with the customize options @_@
Dis gon' be gud
Aaaaand that's the first and last time I ever type like that again (/ω\)
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Post by purifyweirdshard on Aug 29, 2015 22:37:24 GMT -6
Thanks, Dan! It was pretty fun to watch. Should have been more like 2 hours though!
About that discussion on armor/accessories/cloaks, The defense increase/decrease you would get from using different cloaks were negligible anyway. I mean, if you normally use Joseph's for instance (which could be any color combination), but you like how the crystal cloak looks, then you're only missing...3 points of CON (just looked it up). This game being as easy as it is, at that point in the game, the number of hits you can/can't take probably doesn't even change.
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Post by Vert333 on Aug 29, 2015 23:28:52 GMT -6
The panel only displayed alt costumes for miriam i hope that the other playable characters get alt costumes as well.
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Post by Goobsausage on Aug 29, 2015 23:38:28 GMT -6
I never said get rid of RPG elements entirely. I just don't want them tied to hats or outfits. I don't think it's fair to use a customizable character as a selling point for the game, then have that customization taken away if you want to go after the best defense or offense. Plus, I'd rather see Bloodstained be its own thing than just "SOTN, slightly different edition." I heard WoW has an option where you can change the visual style of your armor but still keep its stats. Maybe Bloodstained could have something for that. Or maybe tie the stats to Miriam's crystals instead. You'd still be changing stats like in older Castlevania games, but things like strength, speed, and defense, could be tied to the crystals instead of things like hats or clothes. Better yet. Let's just agree to Disagree and instead be happy that a visual appearance changing feature is even making this game. Good stuff right? K. Sounds good. I was trying to steer the conversation in that direction by offering possible solutions that'd make both parties happy. Didn't mean to come off as confrontational. Also, if you're going to be this active on the boards, just go ahead and sign up!
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Post by Lelygax on Aug 30, 2015 0:39:54 GMT -6
He isn't? Wow, I didn't even noticed lol
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Post by gunlord500 on Aug 30, 2015 1:09:24 GMT -6
Yeah, you should join up, Dan G., it's convenient and this is a nice forum, too
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 1:37:45 GMT -6
Didn't mean to come off as confrontational. You weren't confrontational. Cale, Vert and yourself proposed compromises in which the visuals of specific gear could be altered or reset to the default look. Meanwhile, Dan G. dismissed all your suggestions, which were the addition of an alternative and not the replacement of the current system, without giving a single valid reason for doing so. Basically, he's against having additional playstyle options (that don't detract from anyone's experience), with the given rationale being that everyone should play in his preferred way. This type of disrespectful behavior should be actively discouraged.
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Post by ghaleon on Aug 30, 2015 1:47:01 GMT -6
Heh, I don't really know how I should feel about, when a friendly user gives a friendly advice and 2 users ignore that. There is nothing wrong with this line of conversation guys, but it shouldn't be better to create a new thread in the discussion / suggestion area called "Combos" or something like that? I'm glad that this place is full of gentle people, otherwise I think that they would've locked this thread already, disabling us to know and share news about the livestream. Since I would hate if this happened. =/ You seem to be missing all the facts... the posts you are criticizing were moved from another thread.. a thread about questions for the pax thing, and since the questions have already been selected beyond a certain point, discussing particular questions and the nature of them is about as on topic as you can get. Even if it wasn't, I never got the impression that this was the kind of forum where topics must be adhered to with absolute laser-defined clarity all the time. Blah, I was hoping for a handy video or something.. All I can find is the schedule. qq. As for the cosmetic/costume thing. Despite the fact I don't like any of the examples much, I like the thought it's on the dev's mind...And as for the discussion between Dan G and other people.... Basically Dan, there are actually quite a few games that DO have cosmetic items and stat items seperately, even for the same slots... so like you can wear a helm for stats, and APPEAR to wear another helm for cosmetics. You posted something that indicated you thought this to be unlikely, and that you wanted what you wanted because it's not impossible. I think you are mistaken or unaware of how normal such a system is. I personally can think of quite a few that feature it: Diablo 3, World of Warcraft, Elsword, Vindictus, starbound, terraria, Phantasy star online 2...Pretty sure nearly every new mmo does actually nowdays.... It is quite frankly becomming near-standard. I THINK that is why he wanted his 'way' nyah. If not, I kinda agree, it would seem like a selfish thing because his way basically burns everyone who wants to play dressup without sacrificing stats...but the other ways don't actually prohibit anyone from doing whatever they want for stats OR looks. I just hope that the game doesn't have a "turn this stat-based item into a cosmetic version" feature that either unlocks late in the game, preventing you from enjoying it for most of the game. Or one that effectively forces you to farm 'double' of certain items.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 1:55:27 GMT -6
Heh, I don't really know how I should feel about, when a friendly user gives a friendly advice and 2 users ignore that. There is nothing wrong with this line of conversation guys, but it shouldn't be better to create a new thread in the discussion / suggestion area called "Combos" or something like that? I'm glad that this place is full of gentle people, otherwise I think that they would've locked this thread already, disabling us to know and share news about the livestream. Since I would hate if this happened. =/ You seem to be missing all the facts... the posts you are criticizing were moved from another thread.. a thread about questions for the pax thing, and since the questions have already been selected beyond a certain point, discussing particular questions and the nature of them is about as on topic as you can get. Even if it wasn't, I never got the impression that this was the kind of forum where topics must be adhered to with absolute laser-defined clarity all the time. His post was among the ones that were moved from that thread to this one.
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Post by ghaleon on Aug 30, 2015 2:03:28 GMT -6
=/ You seem to be missing all the facts... the posts you are criticizing were moved from another thread.. a thread about questions for the pax thing, and since the questions have already been selected beyond a certain point, discussing particular questions and the nature of them is about as on topic as you can get. Even if it wasn't, I never got the impression that this was the kind of forum where topics must be adhered to with absolute laser-defined clarity all the time. His post was among the ones that were moved from that thread to this one. Well then my post would have been perfectly on topic to begin with then.
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Post by Leon on Aug 30, 2015 2:11:13 GMT -6
Thanks a lot for the panel and stream, Dangamer! It was very fun watching you guys. I am definitely looking forward to the next AskIGA to come. If it's fine to ask, could you provide high resolution pictures of the "Customization" picture featuring the few different costumes and the rainbow sheet that was too small to see, please? PS: We completed 8 out of 10 of the IGAchievements, looking forward to the surprise. :3
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 2:14:35 GMT -6
Well then my post would have been perfectly on topic to begin with then. Fact of the matter is that the posts were moved, so if you have any inquires or disagreements regarding how on-topic they were you should be talking to Mike about that, via PM.
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Post by ghaleon on Aug 30, 2015 3:57:27 GMT -6
So I finally found the video stream thing (links given were saying final fantasy type-o or something). Was entertaining to watch. Though I can't help but wonder what questions were planned. They had several forum questions they wanted to ask that was cut short despite the objection. Iga's answer to the 'salad' question didn't quite seem correct however. I mean "I don't particularly prefer one part over another" would be ok, or "The moment of its release and seeing it all put into place" would be another... but "it's all part of the salad and equally important"...
Kinda looks like somehow the question was interprited as "what's the most important part of a game", rather than what part he personally enjoys participating in the most.
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Post by H on Aug 30, 2015 5:34:28 GMT -6
I noticed you can change Miriam's skin colour to unnatural colours (like blue). Interesting... Maybe I can make a full Watermelon-themed Miriam this way! Did they say just Miriam would be customized, or that all 3 would be able to be customized? Even if it's just Miriam, this is an exciting revelation!
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Post by Lelygax on Aug 30, 2015 5:54:43 GMT -6
=/ You seem to be missing all the facts... the posts you are criticizing were moved from another thread.. a thread about questions for the pax thing, and since the questions have already been selected beyond a certain point, discussing particular questions and the nature of them is about as on topic as you can get. Even if it wasn't, I never got the impression that this was the kind of forum where topics must be adhered to with absolute laser-defined clarity all the time. His post was among the ones that were moved from that thread to this one. Thanks for claryfing this in my absence. I noticed you can change Miriam's skin colour to unnatural colours (like blue). Interesting... Maybe I can make a full Watermelon-themed Miriam this way! Did they say just Miriam would be customized, or that all 3 would be able to be customized? Even if it's just Miriam, this is an exciting revelation! I didn't heard well the stream, I'll need to check back but I think that they only mentioned Miriam, even so they didn't said that the other characters wouldn't have this. I really want to believe that this time we will be able to really level up and have a inventory with the secondary characters, but knowing IGA past works I can't count on that blindly. Even so it will be a great bonus for what we knew before. About colors, I think that its a hat that changes her skin.
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Post by Dan G on Aug 30, 2015 7:33:16 GMT -6
I did not dismiss their compromises at all. I said I'd be happy with it being an optional thing you can switch on or off. I'm just saying IGA has never done that with equipment so it's unlikely to happen, which is why it SEEMED like I was against it. Don't make me out to be bad just because I disagree with something, a middle ground solution is always preferred IF the developers even consider that which I doubt sadly.
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Post by CastleDan on Aug 30, 2015 7:44:42 GMT -6
I did not dismiss their compromises at all. I said I'd be happy with it being an optional thing you can switch on or off. I'm just saying IGA has never done that with equipment so it's unlikely to happen, which is why it SEEMED like I was against it. Don't make me out to be bad just because I disagree with something, a middle ground solution is always preferred IF the developers even consider that which I doubt sadly. BTW I am Dan G ^ . Sometimes I'm just really lazy about loggin in on my crappy phone. Which doesn't make sense I know.
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Post by XombieMike on Aug 30, 2015 7:49:49 GMT -6
I did not dismiss their compromises at all. I said I'd be happy with it being an optional thing you can switch on or off. I'm just saying IGA has never done that with equipment so it's unlikely to happen, which is why it SEEMED like I was against it. Don't make me out to be bad just because I disagree with something, a middle ground solution is always preferred IF the developers even consider that which I doubt sadly. BTW I am Dan G ^ . Sometimes I'm just really lazy about loggin in on my crappy phone. Which doesn't make sense I know. I have always wondered why you don't log in. I knew it was you though. Some members are a bit too critical of other's posts. I'm glad you keep coming back, and I always enjoy your posts.
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Post by CastleDan on Aug 30, 2015 8:07:14 GMT -6
BTW I am Dan G ^ . Sometimes I'm just really lazy about loggin in on my crappy phone. Which doesn't make sense I know. I have always wondered why you don't log in. I knew it was you though. Some members are a bit too critical of other's posts. I'm glad you keep coming back, and I always enjoy your posts. Thanks I appreciate it!
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