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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2019 11:25:31 GMT -6
I'm getting antsy to the point of me wanting to dive back in and grab more shards and such. My hope is that the expansions for this game will be handled more like the Sisters mode in Portrait of Ruin with more story rather than the other extra character modes we used to see from SOTN to Order. It makes me wonder if the requests for the third DLC character have shifted at all since more people are playing and beating the game now. I remember Dominique being a rather popular character. Honestly, I never understood that...is it because of her her hat? Her shoes? Her charming personality™ ? Her breas- All jokes aside, I found her design more boring than Johannes. Her blatant villainy was a little rushed and last minute, so if people still wanted her playable then maybe expand on that aspect of the story. Either that, or make an alternate universe where she's the hero and the main antagonist is someone else...like Gebel or Alfred. Considering everything that happened in the story, I'd say Alfred, Gebel, and maybe O.D. need to be playable. Alfred's teleporting would either have to be ignored or situational or require a huge cost of some kind. Gebel could be like other "rival" characters in terms of how their stats measure up. O.D. is too obvious to explain or expand on...just look at him. As far as the ending: I did mention in another thread that I knew it would be bittersweet...but not THIS bittersweet.
The problem here is that this is an entirely new universe and we've essentially killed all of the supporting cast. Some of their deaths could have been prevented, Alfred's especially. I get that Alfred predicted that Miriam would be too bullheaded to accept any explanations from him...but he didn't even try. He even attacked her... Really? You couldn't have at least plant a seed of doubt? Doing that wouldn't have broken the story, I don't think.
Zangetsu giving you his sword is fine, if not great. Why couldn't I have given it back in the Gremory room? The whole time I was thinking "throw it"! I dunno if he would have gotten out of that trap, but I'd imagine that would have been another tag-team boss fight saving him.(Or he gets irreversibly injured or something)
Those are two problems or strange moments I noticed off the bat. I'm sure there are more instances, but I am by no means a writing expert and I'm still feeling out what makes good story, character, and world writing. I can't wait for more content. Here's to the next year and a half(my guess-timate) of waiting! Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay..... I agree with all of this so very much. The choices they made here in the story area are disapointing to me, even though I like the game.
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Post by seiya on Jun 21, 2019 12:24:11 GMT -6
I completed my beastiary with 100% and all items unlocked. If you have trouble, ask me =) I'll answer as soon I get home. I dont suppose you have 100% map and would be willing to help with finding that last piece I have spent 8 hours on now?
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Post by Arcueid Brunestud on Jun 21, 2019 12:26:39 GMT -6
I got all 100% shards. Check Johannes' room for a surprise. Hint: IT BREAKS THE GAME
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Post by stoltzy92 on Jun 21, 2019 12:30:39 GMT -6
Viftech Oh a missunderstanding. I have unlocked all enemy drops, not the craftable stuff.. or things in treasure chest.. the bug you know For all whats left I‘ll need a second run I need help with a few shards if that would be alright. I am missing one purple shard - the second to last one on the list (Between Fald Ciu and 8-bit Fireball) And I am missing 2 Passive Shards (The one after Augment LCK and the one after Resist Petrification)
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Post by Arcueid Brunestud on Jun 21, 2019 12:50:27 GMT -6
Major endgame spoilers. I take back what I said about guns being useless.
ZA WARUDO More major endgame spoilers. Don't open if you didn't get all shards.
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Post by Viftech on Jun 21, 2019 13:01:05 GMT -6
Does anybody now where the weapon between Bloodbringer and the Mace? It is the last item I need for two achievments
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Post by seiya on Jun 21, 2019 13:33:09 GMT -6
Does anybody now where the weapon between Bloodbringer and the Mace? It is the last item I need for two achievments
It is the Valkyrie Sword. Spoiler is the area is it at.
It is in the right tower of the Twin Towers.
Go to the room right before where the boss fight started. You will need to teleport below floor at the bottom.
You will not fall or get stuck, but you will need to move a bit to find the chest.
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Post by Arcueid Brunestud on Jun 21, 2019 13:51:39 GMT -6
Does anybody now where the weapon between Bloodbringer and the Mace? It is the last item I need for two achievments
It is the Valkyrie Sword. Spoiler is the area is it at.
It is in the right tower of the Twin Towers.
Go to the room right before where the boss fight started. You will need to teleport below floor at the bottom.
You will not fall or get stuck, but you will need to move a bit to find the chest. Dang, that's a good hiding spot. Is there a Valkyrie Scarf as well?
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Post by seiya on Jun 21, 2019 14:23:02 GMT -6
It is the Valkyrie Sword. Spoiler is the area is it at.
It is in the right tower of the Twin Towers.
Go to the room right before where the boss fight started. You will need to teleport below floor at the bottom.
You will not fall or get stuck, but you will need to move a bit to find the chest. Dang, that's a good hiding spot. Is there a Valkyrie Scarf as well? Not that I have found. Just the armor, helm and weapon.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2019 16:38:52 GMT -6
Still can't find the last two hidden rooms, even with the eye shard that lets me see secrets around me. I even have a map, though I can't print it out to keep it infront of me as I travel, so I guess I am really bad at searching.
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Post by Arcueid Brunestud on Jun 21, 2019 16:54:13 GMT -6
Still can't find the last two hidden rooms, even with the eye shard that lets me see secrets around me. I even have a map, though I can't print it out to keep it infront of me as I travel, so I guess I am really bad at searching. If you're on PC, screenshot your map. Align it with the map you found online, then alternate between them and find what's missing.
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Post by giwagiwa on Jun 21, 2019 17:07:53 GMT -6
The ending dialogue with Dominique is kind of awkward when I haven't sold her any shards the whole game. Would have been interesting to change it up a bit based on player action.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2019 17:10:11 GMT -6
Still can't find the last two hidden rooms, even with the eye shard that lets me see secrets around me. I even have a map, though I can't print it out to keep it infront of me as I travel, so I guess I am really bad at searching. If you're on PC, screenshot your map. Align it with the map you found online, then alternate between them and find what's missing. Ps4, sadly.
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Post by Arcueid Brunestud on Jun 21, 2019 17:11:38 GMT -6
If you're on PC, screenshot your map. Align it with the map you found online, then alternate between them and find what's missing. Ps4, sadly. Just wondering. Did you find Santa's hat?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2019 17:12:13 GMT -6
The ending dialogue with Dominique is kind of awkward when I haven't sold her any shards the whole game. Would have been interesting to change it up a bit based on player action. Myself and another user here do not like how they handled her, Alfred, and Zangetsu at all. These were all good characters until the game decided to
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Give them the idiot ball, and also turn Dominique evil at the last moment.
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Post by seiya on Jun 21, 2019 18:02:46 GMT -6
Still can't find the last two hidden rooms, even with the eye shard that lets me see secrets around me. I even have a map, though I can't print it out to keep it infront of me as I travel, so I guess I am really bad at searching. If you're on PC, screenshot your map. Align it with the map you found online, then alternate between them and find what's missing. This should work. But doing it, I cannot find what is missing in my post. 99.9%, literally one area missing. I should post my current map and see if anyone else has luck finding what I am missing.
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Post by Nezuto on Jun 21, 2019 19:40:18 GMT -6
Still can't find the last two hidden rooms, even with the eye shard that lets me see secrets around me. I even have a map, though I can't print it out to keep it infront of me as I travel, so I guess I am really bad at searching. Hoping it's the same 2 that stumped me, lastnight. There is a switch room right under the Celeste Room, solve the puzzle and bam. Second one will be along one of the long shaft halls on the easternmost side of the Livre Ex Machina stage. Both are located in that level. With luck, it's the same 2 I was missing and this helped, if not, then I tried.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2019 19:50:07 GMT -6
Still can't find the last two hidden rooms, even with the eye shard that lets me see secrets around me. I even have a map, though I can't print it out to keep it infront of me as I travel, so I guess I am really bad at searching. Hoping it's the same 2 that stumped me, lastnight. There is a switch room right under the Celeste Room, solve the puzzle and bam. Second one will be along one of the long shaft halls on the easternmost side of the Livre Ex Machina stage. Both are located in that level. With luck, it's the same 2 I was missing and this helped, if not, then I tried. It would really help out more if someone out there could make a full map image, but have all the hidden rooms highlighted a bright color to tell apart from the blue.
I just don't know anymore. I don't even know why I care, either, to be honest.
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Post by tav7623 on Jun 21, 2019 20:10:53 GMT -6
Hoping it's the same 2 that stumped me, lastnight. There is a switch room right under the Celeste Room, solve the puzzle and bam. Second one will be along one of the long shaft halls on the easternmost side of the Livre Ex Machina stage. Both are located in that level. With luck, it's the same 2 I was missing and this helped, if not, then I tried. It would really help out more if someone out there could make a full map image, but have all the hidden rooms highlighted a bright color to tell apart from the blue.
I just don't know anymore. I don't even know why I care, either, to be honest.
These are the ones I can remember, (I indicated where you need to go to open them with the blue rose) hope it helps
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Post by mourningxsun on Jun 21, 2019 20:24:18 GMT -6
So, for those of you that haven't checked it out yet, here's the issues. To kick things off, it doesn't have all the bosses. Not even remotely close.
Here are the bosses that are nowhere to be seen:
O.D. Dominique Baal Valefar Zangetsu 2 Doppleganger Bloodless Glutton Train And if you want to count them, all the backer room bosses.
In previous games, the standard was that boss rush mode contains all bosses, although it was common for the final boss to be left out for some reason.
My second point of contention is that the mode is divided into two "course" that divide easier bosses from more difficult ones. This has been an aspect of Boss Rush mode for a few of Iga's previous games, although in this game I find it makes little sense as there are so few bosses in this mode to begin with. Not really much of a rush when you only have to fight five of them now is it?
Finally... Traditionally boss rush in Iga's games award unique or gimmicky items based on your time. From the several times I ran through it, I've only gotten a 16 bit coin from course A, and a 32 bit coin from course B. Subsequent runs only seem to reward very minimal early game items as a reward, including a whopping ether and cotton from my sub 1 minute nightmare run of course A. Beautiful.
I guess I could also mention that the music gets a bit glitchy if you're mowing through it too fast but that I can get over.
I'm not entirely sure why this mode was made to be so underwhelming. I personally hope it does not set the standard of quality for the other stretch goal releases down the road.
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