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Post by Question on Jun 3, 2019 10:16:10 GMT -6
The only thing I'll say is that it is not Shovel Knight. Guys. It could be Shovel Knight.
Only if Angel said it isn't.
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Post by Galamoth on Jun 3, 2019 10:17:29 GMT -6
Guys. It could be Shovel Knight.
Only if Angel said it isn't. The intrigue continues.
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Post by Orlok Dracule on Jun 3, 2019 11:19:39 GMT -6
The only thing I'll say is that it is not Shovel Knight. Can confirm, Question will say that it is not Shovel Knight.
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Post by Mr. Welldone on Jun 3, 2019 11:20:59 GMT -6
The only thing I'll say is that it is not Shovel Knight. Can confirm, Question will say that it is not Shovel Knight.
But... could it be Shovel Knight?
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Post by Brainiac on Jun 3, 2019 11:22:43 GMT -6
Perhaps a different Knight from a different game, Mr. Welldone ? <evil grin>
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Post by Mr. Welldone on Jun 3, 2019 11:28:27 GMT -6
Perhaps a different Knight from a different game, Mr. Welldone ? <evil grin> Sparkster the Rocket Knight?
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Post by Galamoth on Jun 3, 2019 11:53:59 GMT -6
Perhaps a different Knight from a different game, Mr. Welldone ? <evil grin> Sparkster the Rocket Knight? Knight Man?
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Post by crocodile on Jun 3, 2019 12:49:36 GMT -6
The only thing I'll say is that it is not Shovel Knight. Duh. Because obviously it will be Shield Knight! In all seriousness, if the latest update is accurate in that its a character nobody will guess, that can only be true if its a character that has yet to be revealed publicly. Literally every other publicly revealed character (Anne, Mysterious Man, playable characters from COTM, etc.) has been guessed over and over again (not just now but over the entire development of the game). So y'all should save your breath or try to guess the actual narrative of the game and choose from there. Maybe the last playable character is the "real villain"! Who is the real villain? Who knows but its a better guess that what everyone else is posting if the update is accurate/not misleading in that comment
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Post by Galamoth on Jun 3, 2019 12:52:15 GMT -6
The only thing I'll say is that it is not Shovel Knight. Duh. Because obviously it will be Shield Knight! In all seriousness, if the latest update is accurate in that its a character nobody will guess, that can only be true if its a character that has yet to be revealed publicly. Literally every other publicly revealed character (Anne, Mysterious Man, playable characters from COTM, etc.) has been guessed over and over again (not just now but over the entire development of the game). So y'all should save your breath or try to guess the actual narrative of the game and choose from there. Maybe the last playable character is the "real villain"! Who is the real villain? Who knows but its a better guess that what everyone else is posting if the update is accurate/not misleading in that comment In that case... I'm going to guess that it's one of the 72 Demons from the Lesser Key of Solomon.
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Post by Mr. Welldone on Jun 3, 2019 13:02:33 GMT -6
Duh. Because obviously it will be Shield Knight! In all seriousness, if the latest update is accurate in that its a character nobody will guess, that can only be true if its a character that has yet to be revealed publicly. Literally every other publicly revealed character (Anne, Mysterious Man, playable characters from COTM, etc.) has been guessed over and over again (not just now but over the entire development of the game). So y'all should save your breath or try to guess the actual narrative of the game and choose from there. Maybe the last playable character is the "real villain"! Who is the real villain? Who knows but its a better guess that what everyone else is posting if the update is accurate/not misleading in that comment In that case... I'm going to guess that it's one of the 72 Demons from the Lesser Key of Solomon. Have I been summoned?
Here follow the ranks of the daemons listed in the Ars Goetia:
(~ www.esotericarchives.com/solomon/goetia.htm)
So:
Kings (Sun) Marquisses (Moon) Dukes (Venus) Prelates (Jupiter) Knights (Saturn) Presidents (Mercury) Earles (Um... not Mars? This stuff is always weird)
Of these, typically the Sun is considered the greatest and in Abrahamic angelic hierarchy it gets attached to Michael, or the one who is like God, or Metatron (also one that is equal to god, though this is in some sources split with Sandalphon representing the moon), etc. Sources vary greatly in these attributions.
Belial strikes me as the likely big bad as his entry states he as created just after Lucifer:
Seems fitting.
Interestingly, there are not 7 'most high' but four, which echoes the angelic attributions to the four winds, elements, humours, etc.
So those four (Belial (Sun/South), Beleth (Sun again?), Asmoday (another Sun??), and Gaap (Mercury; don't ask me to figure that out)) stand a good chance of being the big bad or super bosses or something.
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Post by purifyweirdshard on Jun 3, 2019 13:09:30 GMT -6
You can also approach it by gameplay variety and previous Iga game examples. Miriam - essentially, from what we know, we can solidly say she's a Soma/Alucard/Shanoa type character - all weapons. Zangetsu - from what little we have seen, draws from Julius/"sword Belmont"/Maxim/Getsu Fuuma/Alucard - sword only (assumedly). So what does that leave, character archetype and weapon styles, that we've often had in the past in these games? My logic had always been the caster was missing. The Yoko, Sypha, Charlotte type - and the most obvious equivalent to them before Alfred in CotM was Dominique, and behind her Gebel. In 2017-early 18, she was top contender for the spot, and now not. All 3 of those cast members seem to be out from Angel's comments (and this isn't the first time he's pointed out that we wouldn't be able to guess them, that goes back to over a year ago). So, back to the drawing board, a caster is still a possible spot to be filled, and also these: Animal spirit summoner Whip focus "Belmont" A character more experimental to fit the new platform's features (i.e. Sisters mode) A guest (a first, but being an indie venture, a strong possibility as these are common) Mr. Welldone your post brings something else to mind, could it be that Angel's "angelic muahahaha'ing" could be taken more literally as a sneaky hint that we're looking at an actual angel for the character?
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Post by Galamoth on Jun 3, 2019 13:16:48 GMT -6
So, back to the drawing board, a caster is still a possible spot to be filled, and also these: Animal spirit summoner Whip focus "Belmont" A character more experimental to fit the new platform's features (i.e. Sisters mode) A guest (a first, but being an indie venture, a strong possibility as these are common) Mr. Welldone your post brings something else to mind, could it be that Angel's "angelic muahahaha'ing" could be taken more literally as a sneaky hint that we're looking at an actual angel for the character? This is part of the reason why I created an Alfred thread back then, predicting that his weapon type as a playable character would be "Tomes".
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Post by Mr. Welldone on Jun 3, 2019 13:26:08 GMT -6
your post brings something else to mind, could it be that Angel's "angelic muahahaha'ing" could be taken more literally as a sneaky hint that we're looking at an actual angel for the character? I mean, since Hell decided to make an appearance, it would be prudish of Heaven to just stand them up.
I am curious if the Church isn't the corrupt organization as has become the trope but is in fact a Holy agent? There is art of super corrupted Miriam and 'Holy' Enochian lettering is used to allay the Crystal Curse; perhaps there is divine aid in the game?
Interesting thought.
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Post by purifyweirdshard on Jun 3, 2019 13:30:40 GMT -6
your post brings something else to mind, could it be that Angel's "angelic muahahaha'ing" could be taken more literally as a sneaky hint that we're looking at an actual angel for the character? I mean, since Hell decided to make an appearance, it would be prudish of Heaven to just stand them up.
I am curious if the Church isn't the corrupt organization as has become the trope but is in fact a Holy agent? There is art of super corrupted Miriam and 'Holy' Enochian lettering is used to allay the Crystal Curse; perhaps there is divine aid in the game?
Interesting thought.
Hey Angel-Corlux do it if you're not already doing it or I close everything bye edit: or Dominique obviously that's great too thanks
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Post by Mr. Welldone on Jun 3, 2019 13:34:40 GMT -6
I mean, since Hell decided to make an appearance, it would be prudish of Heaven to just stand them up.
I am curious if the Church isn't the corrupt organization as has become the trope but is in fact a Holy agent? There is art of super corrupted Miriam and 'Holy' Enochian lettering is used to allay the Crystal Curse; perhaps there is divine aid in the game?
Interesting thought.
Hey Angel-Corlux do it if you're not already doing it or I close everything bye A POX UPON YOU! May your orifices be filled with BRILLO PADS for delaying the game further and being a miserable little pile of secrets!
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Post by purifyweirdshard on Jun 3, 2019 13:46:45 GMT -6
Hey Angel-Corlux do it if you're not already doing it or I close everything bye A POX UPON YOU! May your orifices be filled with BRILLO PADS for delaying the game further and being a miserable little pile of secrets! AHEM: - Users may not argue a moderators decision publicly. Any and all complaints directed at a moderator must first address the moderator in question via PM. If the problem can not be resolved, then the moderator and user must send their positions to the forum admin. The forum admin will make or change any and/or all final decisions. FINAL DECISION
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Post by Mr. Welldone on Jun 3, 2019 13:50:47 GMT -6
XombieMike, look upon the fruits of your labor and weep at the bitter harvest you have wrought!
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Post by purifyweirdshard on Jun 3, 2019 13:54:41 GMT -6
NO I AM IN CAHRGE FDJSL;ADFDJLFDASFJasdfdffffff
...oh no I hope this doesn't become a kotaku article.
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Post by Mr. Welldone on Jun 3, 2019 13:56:51 GMT -6
NO I AM IN CAHRGE FDJSL;ADFDJLFDASFJasdfdffffff ...oh no I hope this doesn't become a kotaku article. Oh, shit. Glad I already drank my coffee.
But seriously. It's Alfred.
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Post by Brainiac on Jun 3, 2019 14:01:26 GMT -6
<sits back with even more popcorn>
This show is always a delight.
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