What's stopping you from being excited at this game?

What's stopping me from getting excited? Just plain experience. So many good games have gone down the drain, plenty recently too. Not that I'm expecting a flop, but the past is keeping me anchored to the ground.

While I realize it's a pipe dream, I'm honestly still hoping that Linux support might be implemented post-launch. Taking the update at face value, it seems like the Linux and Mac ports kept running into middleware issues and budget and schedule was too tight to allow that and they were cut. So maybe once the game is out and at least the schedule won't be as tight, they could have another crack at it. Or hire a company to port it.
It won't matter to me much now, but I'm planning switch fully to Linux when Windows 7 support finally ends.

I've seen someone else say something like this about "superbackers" and I want to mention something so as to avoid confusion as to what that means officially on KS' site. The Superbacker title next to someone's name does not denote a higher pledge than other backers, only amount of campaigns involved with, per the official description:

help.kickstarter.com/hc/en-us/articles/115005132773-How-can-I-get-a-Superbacker-badge-

So essentially, they just back a lot of things. They could very well have less or more than average invested, but in general spread themselves out a lot of places.

I understand what you mean by that, though everyone that invested in this project should be treated equally and have their voice heard regardless of amounts. If Mac/Linux fans are not breaking any rules, here/elsewhere, they are within a fair capacity to state how they feel. Ostracizing or silencing/cenosring them otherwise would be a net negative over the initial perceived positive of throwing a legitimate issue under the rug.

Anyway though, I'm offering to buy their copies of the game they think they can't sell and they aren't biting.

Oh @konodiada , that would definitely be a problem here and constitute moderation for sure. The thing is, Kickstarter doesn't have moderation. The only semblance of a feature like that is that the project's official accounts can "report" a comment and sometimes that works and sometimes not. Otherwise, there's nothing at all we can do, and the reason for that is likely to prevent abuse from project runners in the manner of such silencing.

All said, what it amounts to is a really terrible communication platform with not even searchable posts, sorting, tagging, linking a post, any basic editing, etc etc. It's more or less the home of the project, though, so we (by we I mean the official people and a volunteer like me) do our best to keep up with it the best we can. Other projects might not, but we are fairly sizable and it's an important responsibility.

I had a mini rant about all that stuff in another post here if you're interested ;p
bloodstained.forums.net/post/62694

That's how I feel about the Kickstarter comment section - to call it toxic is an understatement. If I were Angel or Question, I would find it very demoralizing to have to read that bile day after day. Even great updates such as the release date reveal and the more recent graphical improvement comparisons were met with negative feedback from a very vocal minority who seem to enjoy drowning out anything positive. I really don't get it; backing on Kickstarter is like investing in many ways. Why the hell would anyone want to see something they invested in fail when it's in their best interest to see that the project succeeds? I could be wrong but it feels as if a few of the posters on the Kickstarter page almost display a certain level of schadenfreude sometimes.

I think it's just the first outlet for all their anger that they have an actual justification for using, flimsy as it might be. For the most part you can't show or express your anger elsewhere since it wouldn't be proper and you wouldn't have an excuse for it, but now they have at least a sliver of justification and they're milking it for all it's worth, insisting that it's about fraud and unfullfilled promises and what not. It's weird how a few units of currency thrown at something can become so important to some people.

Or they're just the angriest subset of (former?) backers, ones that would cause the stories of such places as IDontWorkHereLady and MaliciousCompliance when they're not clinging to complaints on the internet.

Whatever the case may be, their existence is certainly no reason to be ambivalent about Bloodstained.

Time 4 Tea

Sometimes people need help. And they use internet to show the world that they aren't feeling well.
Everyone has issues, but "trolls" and alike are stuck in some kind of evil spiral. And frustration leads to more frustration if someone ask them whats wrong, that they are wrong or that someone agrees that the trolls are right and the rest are wrong.

There is really no right or wrong, just happy thoughts - or evil spirals.

Best way to avoid spirals like that, is not to participate. Surround yourself with positive people, creative ones!
As a community responsive person (talking about general here, not me) - you really gain a whole lot from being around a good and kind team. Whenever there are troll-posts or angry posts, you simply answer with facts if you have them. Or a answer like "we will look into it" or similar.

Even though someone is angry, sometimes they have a good point. But if people keeps on looping the same stuff over and over again, its best to leave it alone, unless you want full control which is never any good idea, and that by blocking, deleating or changing stuff around. Something that can become a corporate nightmare. You want to avoid such things.

This forum here started out as unofficial, but became official which is excellent. This thanks to passionate people, surrounded my like-minded. And this forum have had some angry posts, right? But at the end of the day, everyone have shared creative and good ways to talk about different topics. This to allow discussions, but respect to grow. Not only between members but only to the companies that handle this IP.

It might take some energy, but being a community manager, marketing strategic master of some kind, you really can pick and choose what to say, not say, fix and take into consideration before posting an answer. If some fan, are wrong, the mentality of "this guy is really passionate about this project, and while he is wrong, we see no harm in it. He will see when the product is ready how that game, feature or whatnot works. In the meanwhile, I will share facts".

Mentality to see challenges instead of issues is key. 505 Games does a hell of a good job. While I do not speak for them, this is how I see things around any kind of project that are handled with great care and a huge fanbase behind it.

It's completely understandable to be upset in your position, but verbally attacking the staff of a project is inexcusable no matter how upset you are. I have backed my fair share of Kickstarter projects, some of which were handled even worse than Bloodstained, but I never stooped low when voicing my grievances with the projects. And that's also why I didn't back this project, at this point I know better than throwing money at promises that may very well not be fulfilled. But that's not the point of this discussion, so forgive my digression.

@konodiada I totally understood what you were saying, and agree with all your points. I just wanted to point that out about Kickstarter and mention our values for communication publicly. I definitely stand for well treatment and decency, no intention to label you a proponent of censorship and all that. That was me talking higher level/more abstractly than the issue itself as well. A direct insult to anyone isn't standing here.

Otherwise I agree with some of you guys' general sentiments here, but absorbnix/jph is not one such depressed troll or any of the like. I think those types are out there, but if you read his list there, you can see that he has a clear head of concern about all of this legitimately and is mindful of his conduct. Like I've said before regarding this issue, please give it space. Thanks