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Post by darkbrotherhood on Jul 10, 2015 18:40:25 GMT -6
I personaly havnt played castlevania: Order of Ecclesia but in letsplay and wiki's I saw alot of similarities between these two heroins. I wonder anyone noticed (unless its been mentionend before then i do aplogize )
Shanoa is able to absorb Glyphs using the large rune on her back, which provide her with magical weapon abilities. Although she is often seen wielding an ethereal crimson-colored rapier, Shanoa can use any other weapons granted by her glyphs.
Miriam Instead summons/use dark magic wich stains her skin with rose petals, but she also has runes on her body. the aura and petals also comes out from her back. Miriam also posses magical weapons and abilities, altho miriam uses swords like Shanoa, shanoa doesnt seem to use whips at all.
There both dark haired.
There both emotioneless in terms of the drawings, im not sure if there personalities match since the game isnt even out yet.
The story seems to be somewhat the same yet in a difrent twist. I hope the story will be more complex an full of weird twist and suprises.
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Post by Elfina Ashfield on Jul 10, 2015 18:47:46 GMT -6
In the Destructoid's new issue they found the similarities between the two female characters too.
Rumors said Shanoa is based on IGA's wife. So maybe he just happened to love this type?!
Anyway I like them both. Can't control myself when Shannoa raises up her hair.
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Post by Galamoth on Jul 10, 2015 19:19:03 GMT -6
Miriam and Shanoa alike are both beautiful and strong female characters. Miriam was a natural blonde, though (from concept-art of her "Pure" costume). Presumably, the magi-crystal curse she's now afflicted with also changed her hair color.
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Post by Motoko on Jul 10, 2015 19:49:29 GMT -6
OoE is definitely on my list after I finish Dawn of sorrow so I'll be able to see this perspective myself!
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Post by Arcueid Brunestud on Jul 10, 2015 20:48:55 GMT -6
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Post by bloodstainedmiriam on Jul 10, 2015 20:59:15 GMT -6
I haven't played the game Shanoa is in but I do LOVE her design.
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Post by Galamoth on Jul 10, 2015 21:12:50 GMT -6
I haven't played the game Shanoa is in but I do LOVE her design. Yep, and there's actually a good reason for her exposed back.
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Post by Arcueid Brunestud on Jul 10, 2015 21:17:51 GMT -6
Did you know Shanoa is the most OP character in Castlevania history? Even above Alucard's 999 Muramasa, or Soma's giant axe spam.
I wonder if they'll make Miriam as OP...
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Post by Galamoth on Jul 10, 2015 21:32:08 GMT -6
Did you know Shanoa is the most OP character in Castlevania history? Even above Alucard's 999 Muramasa, or Soma's giant axe spam. With certain Rings, even when she's below Level 70, she can easily exceed 1,400 damage with the Nitesco/Sword Glyph Union. ...If that's what you meant.
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Post by Arcueid Brunestud on Jul 10, 2015 21:39:28 GMT -6
Did you know Shanoa is the most OP character in Castlevania history? Even above Alucard's 999 Muramasa, or Soma's giant axe spam. With certain Rings, even when she's below Level 70, she can easily exceed 1,400 damage with the Nitesco/Sword Glyph Union. ...If that's what you meant. Correct. And when you grind to level 255, and max out your glyph stats to 65535, and do the Nitesco/Sword glyph union WITH Dominus Agony, you can output over 4k per hit. Use backdash cancel, and you can do 3 hits per second. The amount of hearts it uses is cheap too. She can also OHKO serious Dracula with the dominus glyph union, but that's plot related.
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Post by Ciel on Jul 10, 2015 21:44:56 GMT -6
Did you know Shanoa is the most OP character in Castlevania history? Even above Alucard's 999 Muramasa, or Soma's giant axe spam. I wonder if they'll make Miriam as OP...If we're to have an OP Miriam, there has to be OP bosses as well. So... a crystal-cursed Galamoth... nobody wants? Anyone?
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Post by Arcueid Brunestud on Jul 10, 2015 21:50:32 GMT -6
Did you know Shanoa is the most OP character in Castlevania history? Even above Alucard's 999 Muramasa, or Soma's giant axe spam. I wonder if they'll make Miriam as OP...If we're to have an OP Miriam, there has to be OP bosses as well. So... a crystal-cursed Galamoth... nobody wants? Anyone? Make crystal-cursed Galamoth a bullet hell boss, with each projectile doing 9001 damage.
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Post by Galamoth on Jul 11, 2015 7:04:34 GMT -6
If we're to have an OP Miriam, there has to be OP bosses as well. So... a crystal-cursed Galamoth... nobody wants? Anyone? Make crystal-cursed Galamoth a bullet hell boss, with each projectile doing 9001 damage. Mushihimesama? *Becomes Crystal-Cursed Galamoth* "YES! THE POWER!!!" (*Fires super-charged glasses in every direction*) (ADDENDUM): In all seriousness, I'm sure there's a chance of Miriam becoming quite OP near the end of the main game, after acquiring as many of the special "Relics" as possible and Leveling-Up so much.
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Post by Elfina Ashfield on Jul 11, 2015 8:26:15 GMT -6
If we're to have an OP Miriam, there has to be OP bosses as well. So... a crystal-cursed Galamoth... nobody wants? Anyone? Make crystal-cursed Galamoth a bullet hell boss, with each projectile doing 9001 damage. BULLET HELL CONFIRMED Apparently everyone loves TH08
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Post by ghaleon on Jul 11, 2015 11:06:46 GMT -6
Thats toehoe silly. Not mushi. I Prefer yukari's spell for signature danmaku screenshot though. Cant link cuz im on phone though.
Anyway I can see why people say shanoa and miriam are similar but I think they kinda arent after you really take more than an initial impression.
First off the runes and glyph things are more of a similarity of the setting than the individual characters. Miriam's runes arent really unique to her as subject of the alchemists, and iirc shanoa's only unique glyph was the one on her back. Been awhile sk i could be wrong though.
Dark hair... As mentioned miriams wasnt dark to begin with, and not only that it STILL isnt dark all the way down (And its not even that long). And because castlevania and bloodstained arent anime styled games, blue, green, pink, etc hair isnt a possibility (no comment on that green hair lady in that onr game boy game). So dark hair is... Well its not exactly that coincidental imo, especially given miriam's is not completely dark.
No expression face. I disagree. Shanoa has a cold grim expression... Miriam is not cold or grim... More like a cute kuudere imo. Even if you dont agree about that I doubt people think she looks cold and grim.
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Post by Elfina Ashfield on Jul 11, 2015 11:23:58 GMT -6
... Miriam is not cold or grim... More like a cute kuudere imo. Helpless when she smiles.
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Post by Galamoth on Jul 11, 2015 14:57:12 GMT -6
Thats toehoe silly. Not mushi. I Prefer yukari's spell for signature danmaku screenshot though. Cant link cuz im on phone though. Anyway I can see why people say shanoa and miriam are similar but I think they kinda arent after you really take more than an initial impression. Thank you for the confirmation. So...that game is "Toe-hoe", and not Touhou? lol :3 In any case I'm confident that, while they may not all be entirely unique to Miriam, she is sure to still be able to come up with some unique Magi-Crystal combinations (as the Alchemy crafting system would seem to allow for that). As for Shanoa, the vast majority of Glyphs that she can make use of are obtained from fallen enemies, or stolen from them before they can cast their magic (many more still are either offered to her in the story, or absorbed from specific spots/locations instead of from enemies). ^ While some Glyphs may not be unique to Shanoa alone, she certainly becomes potentially the most powerful Glyph-user of them all (She was trained to be able to perfectly handle these Glyphs, after all).
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Post by DAN G on Jul 12, 2015 17:51:17 GMT -6
I actually see some similarities between her and Alucard too.
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Post by catastrophe on Jul 13, 2015 8:55:31 GMT -6
The specific points of their stories are pretty close too. Although I guess that's just how video game tropes work.
Shanoa was an orphan whose parents were unknown. Miram also doesn't know who her parents are, just that they're dead too. Both Shanoa and Miram were raised by an occult organization from a young age. This organization was supposed to be fighting demons, but secretly conspired to summon them instead. And actually, both Shanoa and Miriam were supposed to be sacrificed to summon a demon, right?
Both Shanoa and Miriam have one friend in the whole world - a guy from the organization who quit because he wouldn't do as he was told. (And who prioritizes Shanoa/Miriam above the organization, too.)
But I don't think IGA thoughtlessly cloned Shanoa, either. All the similarities are probably because both characters were designed to be vessels for the gameplay, and the gameplay is the same, so yeah. Iga always designs couples: Soma/Mina, Charlotte/Johnathan, and Shanoa/Albus. The magic runes trope is a good enough excuse for the magic powers we need to explore the castle and fight the monsters. The mysterious past thing is either because it doesn't matter and you shouldn't pay attention to it, or to leave room for expansion later, or both.
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Post by SookyLala on Jul 13, 2015 9:33:20 GMT -6
Thats toehoe silly. Not mushi. I Prefer yukari's spell for signature danmaku screenshot though. Cant link cuz im on phone though. Anyway I can see why people say shanoa and miriam are similar but I think they kinda arent after you really take more than an initial impression. First off the runes and glyph things are more of a similarity of the setting than the individual characters. Miriam's runes arent really unique to her as subject of the alchemists, and iirc shanoa's only unique glyph was the one on her back. Been awhile sk i could be wrong though. Dark hair... As mentioned miriams wasnt dark to begin with, and not only that it STILL isnt dark all the way down (And its not even that long). And because castlevania and bloodstained arent anime styled games, blue, green, pink, etc hair isnt a possibility (no comment on that green hair lady in that onr game boy game). So dark hair is... Well its not exactly that coincidental imo, especially given miriam's is not completely dark. No expression face. I disagree. Shanoa has a cold grim expression... Miriam is not cold or grim... More like a cute kuudere imo. Even if you dont agree about that I doubt people think she looks cold and grim. I hope shes cold and grim, in all seriousness
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