Miriam and Shanoa Similarities.

You're not one of those people who think videogames have rarely had female protagonists until recently are you?
That and I'm pretty sure 'strong female protagonist' is pretty much the most common type of female protagonist. You don't really see weak/needy female protagonists terribly often, if you did I'm sure certain people would lose their minds.

Personally I noticed this as soon as I saw Miriam which is why I was so happy as ****. In my opinion Castlevania OoE is very underrated I love that Castlevania game so much. Since I love Shanoa so much it's easy to relate the same feelings to Miriam. I don't know maybe it's the attractiveness of the quietness and reservedness of the character in addition of course to the design. Then again Shanoa's story was a nice tearjerker for me so there's that too. You really get the impression that Miriam will get a similar treatment.

I'm just surprised at the many people here who stated they have not beaten Order of Ecclesia,If you have a DS or 3DS you owe it to yourself to pick up and beat both that game and Portrait of Ruin since both of those have multiple endings

I admit I see a lot of similar traits between Miriam and Shanoa,In particular their fashion and the emblems on their skin,which is all fine with me since it gives them their own little unique visual appeal,as for Miriam's personality though,that's really up in the air up until the game is done since it's a work in progress,even shanoa and her attitude changed near the end of the game

I admit I'm one of those guys who generally play as a female character if given a choice. But for whatever reason I didn't like Shanoa that much. I mean I didn't hate her but she really wasn't any better than any other castlevania protagonist for me. I think it's because she seems so cold. Note I do mean cold, not emotionless. I generally like emotionless style women, including but not limited to kuuderes. Shanoa doesn't really come across to me as a 'neutral' emotionless state, but a very bleak kind. It's not bad because that is rarely done I guess, especially for female protagonists, but it just wasn't for me. Miriam already doesn't seem to come across like that at all, so I think I'll like her more.

While I do see some things similar, the main thing will be characterization. I hope Miriam will have a greater range of emotion than the plot-induced robot Shanoa. That she decorates and makes fancy weaponry suggests a large attention to detail, and perhaps her affliction affects her. Maybe she'll be more like Hector, from CoD, than Shanoa.

-part of a dying practice
-enters the demon castle to hunt down a friend, who desires their power for nefarious deeds
-crafts their own weaponry
-enlists the help of familiars
-Afflicted with a curse that provides motivation for their quest.

Kuudere can mean "cold" too, though.  Correct me if I'm wrong.

If you ask me, Shanoa & Miriam could be different flavors of the same Kuudere trope.

I hate another M for that. Since when a bounty hunter/mercenary has to follow orders to the letter? She only need to do the assigned task and get paid. That's how it was supposed to work and that's my perceived notion of her personality on Super Metroid, Zero Mission and Fusion.  I tought she was like Motoko Kusanagi or something like that....

Better not to brood on past Nintendo mistakes and focus positive energy elsewhere. I didn't like what they did either but to be fair I have not touched Nintendo since the SNES.

Spoiler : controversial opinion ahead.

May they burn in the special hell...

In a reply to Crocodile I'll be blunt and honest,just as you said yourself I as well am not interested in the game,it looks like a outdated ds game with chibi's that are completely out of tone with the darker Sci-Fi nature of the Metroid series

Now we had soldiers and federation soldiers before in other metroid games,most noted are the ones we see in metroid prime 2 and 3


Here you can see proper looking Metroid Federation soldiers as compared to the rather out of place chibi-looking and kiddyish ones seen in Metroid Prime Federation force,I'm not at all opposed to a spin-off game to a metroid title,In fact I think a very well done side story could be done focused on a bit of adventure and science survival horror in the metroid universe as a possible third or first person shooter or even sidescroller,however federation force is just a kids arena shooter with a metroid name attached to it to make it easier to sell,I don't like that...especially with the timing

It's been 6 years since we had a metroid game with the last one being metroid other M,I have no doubt due to the fan backslash and mixed reception being a major reason nintendo did not make another metroid game for many years...and then when we think we are going to get a break we get a kids looking spin off game that they are "trying" to tie into the games...that's not a good idea

Basically its been so long since a proper metroid game,that with 6 years passing,you need to make a proper game to both regain the trust of the older fans and yet also become successfull to draw newer fans into the series,basically you need to have a full immersive game that is focused on what made the series unique...and metroid federation force is not that game...

People show their displeasure for that game and to be honest,it's important to be vocal and tell some gaming companies "Hey this is not what we want,this is a bad idea,this is not what we are looking for in this series" of course not all the time will they listen,but the problem and concern here is that you get put into that situation where if no one buys the game then they just assume no one wants metroid anymore and wont make another game for a long time,when the truth is many people do want a metroid game...they just dont want one like that

So the best thing you can do while being civil about it,is basically tell them "Nintendo this is not the Metroid game we want,please do not waste your time and funds on this and please do not release it and then bitch and complain later no one wanted to buy your product when we stated beforehand we are displeased with your product"
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