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Post by Philly "F'n" Belmont on Jul 11, 2015 18:32:33 GMT -6
I understand that as you wanting a Castlevania named Bloodstained with nothing but vamps and skeletons? I'm saying that it'd be foolish to exclude stuff that are iconic in Igavania games just because they are in plenty of other games. IGAvania...yes there it is...Vania. New IP means fresh ideas. It was fun finding all the variations of skeletons...archer, medalist, bone ark. Also, vampire bosses...Olrox, Brauner, Stella and Loretta...etc. Vania is dead. Accept it |
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Post by Arcueid Brunestud on Jul 11, 2015 18:38:01 GMT -6
I'm saying that it'd be foolish to exclude stuff that are iconic in Igavania games just because they are in plenty of other games. IGAvania...yes there it is...Vania. New IP means fresh ideas. It was fun finding all the variations of skeletons...archer, medalist, bone ark. Also, vampire bosses...Olrox, Brauner, Stella and Loretta...etc. Vania is dead. Accept it Vania is just a term. This game is a Gothic 2D(2.5D in this case) platformer with RPG elements. Saying that certain enemies/character types should be excluded because it's overused is pure ignorance. This game is an Igavania game, and you can't change that unless you're secretly Iga.  |
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Post by Leon on Jul 11, 2015 18:40:16 GMT -6
'IGAVANIA (n): A gothic, exploration-focused action platformer, designed by one of the godfathers of the genre!'
Arc probably meant as the genre proper to Igarashi's style, not as the franchise. Like I said, nothing wrong with bats, vampires and skeletons as enemies. Not "with nothing but" but included amongst the myriade of other monsters.
Edit: Ninjas everywhere!
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Post by JeffCross on Jul 11, 2015 18:43:57 GMT -6
Oh, I seem to have misread something. "Of course I’m focused on the game scenario myself, and while I know we’ve gone over the three main characters, I'm beginning to think about adding three more to deepen the story. (Still only three playable, of course.)"
I first thought there would somehow be six playable characters, haha. Well, in that case, I don't think a vampire character will actually make it in as the third character. Though it'd be nice if he/she ends up as one of the three extra characters. I was thinking will these three characters play a roll in bloodstained prequel? I know no one has the answer to this but wouldn't it be cool? and Arcueid Brunestud as much as I would want a vampire as a focal point in the story... sadly it doesn't seem likely... oh and a random though; what about a character resurrected by the philosopher stone? or some kind of time traveler? <--(more from the sciences fraction) |
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Post by JeffCross on Jul 11, 2015 18:50:55 GMT -6
'IGAVANIA (n): A gothic, exploration-focused action platformer, designed by one of the godfathers of the genre!' Arc probably meant as the genre proper to Igarashi's style, not as the franchise. Like I said, nothing wrong with bats, vampires and skeletons as enemies. Not "with nothing but" but included amongst the myriade of other monsters. Edit: Ninjas everywhere! ummm.... just a question what's this argument about? just want to know... cause it seems you both are saying the same things. no one wants to fill the castle with only casltevania type monsters and it doesn't seem like anyone wants to just get rid of all of those past monsters either... so what is it are you guys arguing about? edit: sorry didn't mean to double post ^^; |
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Post by Philly "F'n" Belmont on Jul 11, 2015 18:52:35 GMT -6
IGAvania...yes there it is...Vania. New IP means fresh ideas. It was fun finding all the variations of skeletons...archer, medalist, bone ark. Also, vampire bosses...Olrox, Brauner, Stella and Loretta...etc. Vania is dead. Accept it Vania is just a term. This game is a Gothic 2D(2.5D in this case) platformer with RPG elements. Saying that certain enemies/character types should be excluded because it's overused is pure ignorance. This game is an Igavania game, and you can't change that unless you're secretly Iga. I just don't feel they would fit in this game. Some enemies have been Overused. How many versions of a black bat do you need? Red trim, blue trim, giant bat with a sword..lol yeah leave those in Castlevania where they belong. |
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Post by Arcueid Brunestud on Jul 11, 2015 19:01:22 GMT -6
'IGAVANIA (n): A gothic, exploration-focused action platformer, designed by one of the godfathers of the genre!' Arc probably meant as the genre proper to Igarashi's style, not as the franchise. Like I said, nothing wrong with bats, vampires and skeletons as enemies. Not "with nothing but" but included amongst the myriade of other monsters. Edit: Ninjas everywhere! ummm.... just a question what's this argument about? just want to know... cause it seems you both are saying the same things. no one wants to fill the castle with only casltevania type monsters and it doesn't seem like anyone wants to just get rid of all of those past monsters either... so what is it are you guys arguing about? edit: sorry didn't mean to double post ^^; I think Philly said something about vampires and bats being overused in plenty of other games, and effectively calling it foolish or worthless if they were to add it again into Bloodstained. Even though this is an Igavania game, with the word gothic being prevalent. And, well... Blood? |
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Post by JeffCross on Jul 11, 2015 19:19:28 GMT -6
ummm.... just a question what's this argument about? just want to know... cause it seems you both are saying the same things. no one wants to fill the castle with only casltevania type monsters and it doesn't seem like anyone wants to just get rid of all of those past monsters either... so what is it are you guys arguing about? edit: sorry didn't mean to double post ^^; I think Philly said something about vampires and bats being overused in plenty of other games, and effectively calling it foolish or worthless if they were to add it again into Bloodstained. Even though this is an Igavania game, with the word gothic being prevalent. And, well... Blood? cool got it but remember this is a "third character" thread I have created a place for you guys to continue (cause I feel people should share their opinions) it's right here " Enemies Classic or No" now let us get back on topic. what do you want the third character to be? |
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Post by Arcueid Brunestud on Jul 11, 2015 19:24:17 GMT -6
I think Philly said something about vampires and bats being overused in plenty of other games, and effectively calling it foolish or worthless if they were to add it again into Bloodstained. Even though this is an Igavania game, with the word gothic being prevalent. And, well... Blood? cool got it but remember this is a "third character" thread I have created a place for you guys to continue (cause I feel people should share their opinions) it's right here " Enemies Classic or No" now let us get back on topic. what do you want the third character to be? A loli vampire just passing through, and deciding to take over the castle. How about that? |
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Post by JeffCross on Jul 11, 2015 19:27:22 GMT -6
cool got it but remember this is a "third character" thread I have created a place for you guys to continue (cause I feel people should share their opinions) it's right here " Enemies Classic or No" now let us get back on topic. what do you want the third character to be? A loli vampire just passing through, and deciding to take over the castle. How about that? your a dork LOL but that works I guess |
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Post by Arcueid Brunestud on Jul 11, 2015 19:29:18 GMT -6
A loli vampire just passing through, and deciding to take over the castle. How about that? your a dork LOL but that works I guess Lol, it'd make for a funny story. Trivializing Miriam, and Gebel's struggles by just taking over them all. |
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Post by Ravenspear on Jul 11, 2015 20:05:24 GMT -6
cool got it but remember this is a "third character" thread I have created a place for you guys to continue (cause I feel people should share their opinions) it's right here " Enemies Classic or No" now let us get back on topic. what do you want the third character to be? . How about that?
I wonder where I saw that as random as it is.
No. We have ENOUGH loli girls roaming about. And I would rather it be a youth of indescribable gender to put a spin on things. You can have the little guy/gal in a sailor suit(I'm talking like the old fashioned NAVY uniforms), or possibly something adorable, or have him in rags and survival gear, giving him a little too much knowledge of the castle and the outside of it, like a wanderer of different universes. Though the pet option seems to be a good idea for a possible sub-weapon. Maybe the pet is affected by the main weapon the character has equipped.
Enough? There will never be such a thing as "enough".
Ha ha, anyway, you shouldn't worry that much, my guess is that Miriam will be the only girl playable (only one guy playable against 2 females ones is not frequent from what I know) . If I would take a guess, Johannes is too soft looking so we'll have a badass like a Julius Belmont except without amnesia and not an actual vampire hunter. What I wish though would be Freaking Lilith going through the castle and takeover it to bring hell on earth x')
Edit; I know where the idea come from, Lilith was announced as a playable character in binding of Isaac rebirth afterbirth dlc
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Post by Thomas on Jul 11, 2015 20:14:25 GMT -6
I like the suggestion of Ninjas.
Ninjas make me happy =)
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Post by Galamoth on Jul 11, 2015 20:38:46 GMT -6
Just changed my vote.
All of those options would be interesting to see in Bloodstained, actually.
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Post by H on Jul 11, 2015 21:21:38 GMT -6
I voted middle aged man. I specifically would want a half crazed older man, but not a veteran. Basically I love those characters who act so insane that you can't tell even with careful observation whether or not that they're good or evil, although he would of course be a good guy. I like having those characters that you just have to trust, even when their motives seem impure. That's a kind of character that I want. That'd be pretty cool to have morally ambiguous characters. Especially an older seemingly "insane" character. Could be similar to the "Jester" from DMC3, although more on the "good" side. A possible backstory for them is that they're trying to "purify" themselves from their madness, and have come to the castle to unlock the power to do so, but struggle with their insanity in the process. Possible TES: Oblivion Spoilers: Similar to Sheogorath in Oblivion shedding his madness to take on his form of Jyggalag again. Or it could just be a literal crazy guy who craves adventure haha. |
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Post by lod7 on Jul 11, 2015 21:40:42 GMT -6
I would notmind playing a mture type woman like Yoko Belnades from Aria and dawn of sorrow. As for mypick of wild youth jonathan, soma, and charlotte all fit the bill here for me
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Post by rubyrender on Jul 11, 2015 21:44:50 GMT -6
Nope. Nope, nope, nope, nope. This is not Castlevania people, this is an entire new setting. We don't have Dracula, and we have the demon crystal cursed instead of vampires. Putting a vampire in is just going to derail from the new setting IGA is making. How do you even explain vampires here without taking the spotlight away from Miriam and Gebel? I'd rather have no vampire playable characters, IGA is making something new and I think it's much better if they focus on that. Maybe we might have some vampire enemies, since the castle is summoning all kinds of demons, but a playable vampire doesn't fit. A small girl might be okay, but I don't think they can explain her being immortal in this setting. Alchemists are all dead but Johannes, scientists are too new and I don't think they can do that, and the crystal curse ritual only happened a few years ago, What new setting? It still takes place in relatively the same timeframe as SOTN, which is around the 1700s. Yes, there won't be Dracula, but that doesn't exclude vampires from the mix. Thinking on it, a vampire could be a good third character, but if I wanna veer from my vote, I'd go for the crazy old coot with a battle Fane sword. What specs does he have? I dunno, but it would be awesome to see someone Act like the grave keeper from the black butler or possibly just a creepy old guy in general. Plus the vampire shtick has been overused. It's an igavania game, not a castlevania game. |
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Post by Ciel on Jul 11, 2015 21:47:39 GMT -6
How about a mature woman, and she's an executor of the church, come to vanquish this horrible night. Her name might or might not be Ciel.  Me? That's outragerous! Such a thing is impossible! |
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Post by Maker on Jul 11, 2015 23:13:54 GMT -6
Something that I don't believe has been done before could be an "Artifice" character like a golem or gothic inspired robot (doesn't have to be either of those specifically just humor me here).
You could even draw from some familiar character designs for common uses of tools (soma) to teleport / whip swing / GRAND CROSS! (Julius Belmont) sorts of things.
Depending on how the budget is for the 3rd character his weapon choices / clothes / tools could just change his / her / its basic attack properties and give extra things like the double jump becomes triple or what have you. Or maybe since Miriam apparently gets to dual wield whatever, this character only gets a single weapon but an alternate attack set with the other buttons? Perhaps a powerup that differs per weapon? Lots can be done regardless of design choice, just throwing my 2 cents in.
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Post by Ixbran on Jul 11, 2015 23:22:28 GMT -6
I want an Eric Lecarde style young boy.
 Eric Lecarde from Judgment, Maria Renard, and Carie Fernandez are my favorite archetype in the castlevania seires: the innocent youth with the power to repel evil. Someone with a sense of youthful innocence, yet not be ignorant of the world and darkness around him. Hes very aware of the dangers of the world, yet still chooses to have a positive outlook on life. Someone who willingly steps out of their regal comfort zone to step up and help bring about change for the better of the people.
A kind of character who represents the true aspect of Nobility: Looking out for those less fortunate than they are, to help those who need help, and protect those who need protecting.
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