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Post by gunlord500 on May 13, 2018 5:15:17 GMT -6
Is the artwork for the characters of this game made by Mana or an artist internal to Inti? I think it's Yuji Natsume again, but he changed his style a little bit. |
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Post by tav7623 on May 13, 2018 8:07:26 GMT -6
Don't know if this has been asked or not, but does anyone know if this is gonna get a physical release down the road?
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Post by Enkeria on May 13, 2018 8:41:30 GMT -6
tav7623 It has been discussed on social medias, the short answer is: We do not know.
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Post by Busterific on May 13, 2018 9:11:01 GMT -6
The health bar looks shorter than it could potentially be. I wonder if they've got power ups that will extend that hidden in the game. It also looks like you'll start as Zangetsu and then need to find the other character. I'm wondering if there will be any backtracking in this one because of that. The one thing that I missed was that there doesn't seem to be a health bar for the bosses. |
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Post by demiurgos on May 13, 2018 9:24:21 GMT -6
Don't know if this has been asked or not, but does anyone know if this is gonna get a physical release down the road? I’ve tried to get an answer for this question, as well. Would love for Fangamer to do a vita release, as they’ve done with Undertale, and if they need someone to publish it outside of NA there’re lots of awesome publishers to do it. East Asia Soft comes to mind... or Strictly Limited Games. Considering these two publishers, there would be no ESRB/PEGI/CERO rating on the cover as well. |
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Post by Pure Miriam on May 13, 2018 9:29:11 GMT -6
Busterific I believe that is the case because each character has its own life bar, with specific sizes. As you can see at this screenshot, Zangetsu has the largest health bar in the game.  Due to the fact that they tried to make each character unique and useful on their own way, i don't see the health bar getting upgrades.
I also wanted to take this opportunity to mention that, since i believe they did that on a really interesting way. By mixing all the articles and translations talking about the game so far, it seems the characters will work like this: ZANGETSU Highest HP and highest attack power. Regular range. No downsides.
MIRIAM Second best fighter in the game. Range is higher than Zangetsu but damage and HP is lower.
ALFRED Lowest Health and damage, but highest damage when using special attacks.
Gebel More like a "gimmick" character with a higher focus on mobility and anti-air attacks.
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Post by roguedragon05 on May 13, 2018 10:19:03 GMT -6
The health bar looks shorter than it could potentially be. I wonder if they've got power ups that will extend that hidden in the game. It also looks like you'll start as Zangetsu and then need to find the other character. I'm wondering if there will be any backtracking in this one because of that. The one thing that I missed was that there doesn't seem to be a health bar for the bosses. Yes there will be some sort of backtracking each of the characters will have unique skills like Miriam can jump higher Gebel can turn into a bat and they will let you obtain multiple endings after you free them from bosses, I guess it could be multiple endings like Castlevania 3 depending on who you have in your party to watch the castle crumble with you and whether there still alive. Here's the official site with more info... curseofthemoon.com/en/ |
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Post by Cale on May 13, 2018 10:47:22 GMT -6
Busterific Pure Miriam dareka I am not so sure, based on those 2 screen shots alone Miriam gains 2 pips in the health bar. From 10 to 12. Maybe it is just for mock up reasons, but it seems to imply you can get more health. Edit: It also appears that unlike health bars, all characters share a weapon bar count, which also increases. We see it /20 and /30 at different points.
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Post by purifyweirdshard on May 13, 2018 11:42:37 GMT -6
Is the artwork for the characters of this game made by Mana or an artist internal to Inti? I'm certain it's still Natsume, their usual artist. He has several very different styles though, pretty darn talented guy. |
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Post by dareka on May 13, 2018 11:58:22 GMT -6
The health bar looks shorter than it could potentially be. I wonder if they've got power ups that will extend that hidden in the game. It also looks like you'll start as Zangetsu and then need to find the other character. I'm wondering if there will be any backtracking in this one because of that. The one thing that I missed was that there doesn't seem to be a health bar for the bosses. From what's implied on the website: 1. There are no rare items to be found on different routes, so if there are power ups, they won't be hidden and will apply equally to all characters. More likely, though, is a fixed health bar. 2. There'll be no backtracking. The characters have been turned into bosses. You defeat a boss, it turns into a character. 3. The endings depend on how you interact with the characters at this point (or at least that's what it says). 4. This seems to imply you'll always get the characters in the same order. 5. Different characters let you take different short-cuts in a level. These appear just that: short-cuts. There doesn't seem to be any exploration. There is also no mention of different paths like in Castlevania 3 (level 1 - level 2 - level 3a - level 5 - level 6, for example). So it's a linear action game with short-cuts, which implies the individual levels themselves are pretty long. |
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Post by dareka on May 13, 2018 12:13:28 GMT -6
Also noticed something you guys might wanna know:
The English version of the site isn't very clear on whether you can get items by going through different routes or using other allies and such.
First it says there are no special items to be found by going the long way around (i.e., not using short-cuts), and then it says that "allies can also provide you access to special items", showing Miriam using her sliding skill to obtain a potion.
Well, the Japanese version is quite clear: there are no rare items (i.e., the kind you keep in your inventory or permanently upgrade your stats) to be found by using short cuts. There are regular items (like MP/HP replenishment items and such) you can only obtain by using certain characters.
So, again, this looks to be a straight-forward action game with shortcuts; no backtracking.
EDIT: Thought the forums merged double posts... sorry...
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Post by dareka on May 13, 2018 12:58:24 GMT -6
Busterific Pure Miriam dareka I am not so sure, based on those 2 screen shots alone Miriam gains 2 pips in the health bar. From 10 to 12. Maybe it is just for mock up reasons, but it seems to imply you can get more health. Edit: It also appears that unlike health bars, all characters share a weapon bar count, which also increases. We see it /20 and /30 at different points. Maybe you can, but - going by the description's suggestion that you won't miss out on any power-ups by taking short-cuts - if that's the case then it would be by some other means, rather than collecting items. |
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Post by tav7623 on May 13, 2018 13:04:52 GMT -6
tav7623 It has been discussed on social medias, the short answer is: We do not k Ah ok, so it's back to the waiting game ;P Don't know if this has been asked or not, but does anyone know if this is gonna get a physical release down the road? I’ve tried to get an answer for this question, as well. Would love for Fangamer to do a vita release, as they’ve done with Undertale, and if they need someone to publish it outside of NA there’re lots of awesome publishers to do it. East Asia Soft comes to mind... or Strictly Limited Games. Considering these two publishers, there would be no ESRB/PEGI/CERO rating on the cover as well. I'd also be down for a physical Vita release as long as it was PSTV compatible (I'm getting the digital version of the game for the 3Ds and giving my spare code to a friend who's unable to back the game) and I'd definitely be down to double/triple dip if either FanGamer or Limited Run Games did it. Now the only other question I have (well technically 2 questions) is will the soundtrack for this game also be included with the Bloodstained: RotN OST that the $60 + tier backers are supposed to get? and if so will it also be included on the CD version that the $100+ tier backers? |
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Post by roguedragon05 on May 13, 2018 19:07:42 GMT -6
I personally doubt that there will be a physical disc for now, but I suspect that there may be a "complete edition" within a few years and I'm sure that it would include Curse of the Moon on it and in that way we could get a physical edition I know I'll be annoyed I wasn't offered the choice of a physical release for my copy if they release it sometime this summer or fall.
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Post by stoltzy92 on May 14, 2018 0:15:08 GMT -6
I must say that this game has me absolutely giddy with excitement. And announced less than two weeks away no less! Hot damn I'll be all over this once I get my download codes!
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Post by 21stbelmont on May 14, 2018 0:24:13 GMT -6
Question: is this being released for backers early or is it still slated for 24th of May for everyone? I wanna get my hands on this!
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Post by Enkeria on May 14, 2018 1:36:01 GMT -6
Question: is this being released for backers early or is it still slated for 24th of May for everyone? I wanna get my hands on this! Its for everyone.
I just read that we will be getting different endings in Curse of the Moon. "The choices you make when encountering the other adventureres for the first time are key". Makes me believe there are 4 different endings.
The bigger group, the worse ending.
If Zangetsu, solo goes all the way without the aid of these people - it will be the true ending, which would go well with the official lore we have so far. It would make sense, but only if Zangetsu goes on his journey by himself. It would mean that Miriam, technically could have been in coma, and wake up to enbark on her journey outside of this. She haven't met Zangetsu that I know of before she got her curse, and even so, she do have the curse when she meets Zangetsu in the spin off. Its a detail I can't really add up. It is almost that the spin off would be Zangetsus version how it played out, and Miriam will be her version. But that would make less sense if Zangetsu is playable in the main game.
My brain goes into melt-mode soon. Spin off or not, I am having a real hard time seeing this game as canon.
Discussion followed on Discord:Steve - Today at 9:43 AMYeah, this is a "spin-off" game, which basically means "This game does not follow the same canon or continuity as BS:ROTN will" Enkeria 銀 - Today at 9:43 AMSo its a different time-line, or just a fun loveletter? Foffy-kins - Today at 9:44 AM Probably love letter with winks. Enkeria 銀 - Today at 9:44 AMBut theeeen, we have THIS: (will come back with a quote from IGA) Steve - Today at 9:44 AMI mean, I'm just guessing here, but I'd say it's sort of like Fullmetal Alchemist vs Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood
Enkeria 銀 - Today at 9:44 AM"I'd also like to update you on the retro mini-game. There have been some changes from the time we started the Kickstarter campaign; originally, the mini-game was supposed to be a story that took place 10 years prior to the main game, but we've decided to have it take place in a different part of the lore. " source [ kickstarter] Steve - Today at 9:44 AMSame characters, same settings, different stuff happens Enkeria 銀 - Today at 9:44 AM"take place in a different part of THE lore". So I am a bit confused. details details details. I believe stuff like this could happen, if their route of a "2nd castle" if there is one, could be in an alternate realm/ dimension. Or mirror world. I have no freak'n idea. Steve - Today at 9:46 AMBe careful not to infer too much from that quote, it's being translated into English Enkeria 銀 - Today at 9:46 AMOr if that lore, was an error to be said. Yeah, if that is an error, my brain would feel better actually. Foffy-kins - Today at 9:47 AM Japanese developers are also looser about ideas like "canon" if you consider that some of the Castlevania games were referred to as "gaiden" titles but technically don't exist in the main mythology. Steve - Today at 9:47 AM(his comments were translated, not localized) Enkeria 銀 - Today at 9:48 AMWell I wouldn't bring this up, if it weren't for an old quote by IGA that he never liked having locked into the timeframe of Castlevania, like, every x year Dracula resurrected, making it impossible to have him appear year after year, and harder to make games. So I just felt like I would bring this up, minor detail, but could have a snowball effect, and backfire if it were to be some kind of adventure by the side or not. Like I said, things are possible, if time / dimensions / realities are into play of Bloodstained. But is yet to be announced, if there is any. Glad I brought it to your guys attention. Thanks. |
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Post by Pure Miriam on May 14, 2018 3:33:29 GMT -6
EnkeriaIt is as the discussion you posted. As far as i know (specially as a diehard anime fan and fan of JRPGs and overall japanese games, culture etc), japanese developers are much more loose on what we call canon. They develop stuff and doesn't worrry too much if it is canon or not. And yes, as said before, IGA repeatedly said on interviews that his worst decision was mistakenly publicizing Castlevania's timeline because it made official and they had to work around with it (and answer why some games wasn't there). Castlevania Judgment is a good example. The game uses characters from different timelines, even from the same game (Trevor and Grant are from 3 years after Castlevania 3, while Sypha is from 3 years before Castlevania 3. Trevor even mentions that she "looks so young" since she is from before they met and got married). And has Cornell, from Castlevania: Legacy of Darkness, that Castlevania canon considers it to be non-canon, implying that Judgment reunited people from different universes too. Castlevania Legends, Castlevania 64, Castlevania: Legacy of Darkness, Castlevania: Circle of the Moon and the Lords of Shadow games are disconnected from the main Castlevania Canon. They all happen at different universes, inside the Castlevania Metaverse. So, the BEST i can come up with Bloodstained: Curse of the Moon is the same: Curse of the Moon is a game from a different universe, completely disconnected from Ritual of the Night. If Bloodstained turns into a big franchise, we can start talking about a "Bloodstained Metaverse" where Ritual of the Night is inside the main universe and Curse of the Moon is from a alternative universe.
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Post by DSLevantine on May 14, 2018 3:46:26 GMT -6
this is so amazing but let me vent about Alfred being picked over Dominique lol So, this is clearly a CV3 inspired game, quite heavily. They picked Alfred to be the Sypha expy while I think she's quite clearly a Belnades character (esp. Yoko vibes - from the church, uses magic including fire, runs a shop), and on top of that, her last name is Baldwin, which would complete the Circle of the Moon tribute here. Same acronym. arg. I hope she's DLC or something. During the stream, I was hoping Gebel's portrait was her too, but nah... I like Dominique but I against locking any character behind DLC |
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Post by roguedragon05 on May 14, 2018 4:55:23 GMT -6
Has anyone got the codes for this yet? I was reading an article on Curse of the Moon and the writer said that backers should already have their codes. I know I haven't got them, I'm guessing that this is just early, but wanted to make sure that I didn't miss my codes. I assume they will be released after the 18 when you can't change your selection anymore. Speaking of witch how WILL we get our codes, Email? www.engadget.com/2018/05/13/bloodstained-curse-of-the-moon/ |
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