SXSW Event: Vepar's new look, Cook, Familiar, QUESTIONS

I mean, Overlord it depends on why people don't like it. If the breasts were reduced simply to appease some Puritans (on either side of the political spectrum), then yes, that's censorship, in the sense that the game's overall vision would be altered for external factors. However, if the breasts were reduced because IGA thought they looked garish, that's not censorship because the change is enhancing his personal vision for the game. And the latter seems to be the case in reality, as the original breasts looked like weird bags of water rather than anything especially attractive (in any sense). So I don't think we have a case of censorship. But anyways, that's all water (heh) under the bridge now, let's focus on the update itself.

Concerning exclusive content, nothing has been set in stone yet. Angel-Corlux and the rest of the team are still discussing and coordinating on what should be done, if anything at all, after trying to gauge the community's responses. There are so many things they could do, because the spectrum of "leaving backer exclusives as is" to "making it available to all" is a very wide one. The choices in the survey are some popular possibilities but not even all the possibilities, they may come up with a really cool idea later on. So for now let's give them the benefit of the doubt before getting heated one way or the other.

Now, as for some other concerns: Yeah, it's a bit of a bummer that the demo is only available on Steam, but let's remember that the first demo was the same way. So in this case, DICO and Artplay have been up front with what we could expect and will deliver the final game on GoG, most likely. It's not like what Inti did, waiting until the last moment to tell us they didn't do GoG, and then messing up with the release codes later on. It seems to me that the RotN demo is already being handled much better and with clearer communication and expectations.

As for costumes: One thing to note is that we don't know how the story will play out. For all we know maybe Miriam will be overtaken by the Crystal Curse at some point in the game. So we can hold off on that costume until we know how things go in the actual game ;D

It highly depends on the context, I take Vepar 10x more seriously after the changes, it looks like a menacing gothic monster now and not like a cartoonish out of place fantasy now. I hated her first iteration not because I'm against them showing the breasts but because it looked goofy and out of place. If you make changes so your character fit more into your universe then why would it be considered censorship?

Olrox

That's certainly correct, but ultimately we don't know the reasoning behind the change. Personally, I agree with you, gunlord. I even referred to them as "water sacs" after we initially saw the character. But what I do know is that IGA was confident enough to release the character in that state, and there certainly were people on this very forum complaining that they were "too big". So I couldn't just dismiss the notion of censorship either.

I'm about 2 hours late to this most recent of conversations in this thread when I was going to initially post, but here's what I was going to say anyway:

Cranium Vepar's a demon, and he evidently has "magi-crystal" shards embedded in his body, so I'd think that to be an easy explanation for the glowing.

They were just playing around with the shader to achieve that new effect on Vepar's body. I don't think the "wetness" was actually meant to look natural.

And yes, quick reminder again:  Vepar is male. As are the vast majority of Ars Goetia demons (even the ones that appear to be female).

crimsonx4



I mean...I respect your opinion and my intent is not to be combative, but most people I've spoken to--all male, BTW, and none of them are "SJWs" or whatever--thought Vepar initially looked ridiculous. Most folks thought the lighting and such would be improved in future demos (and they were right), but they thought Vepar looked goofy and not at all intimidating--one fellow thought she was a bright blue neon goofy thing that came from a cartoon. On the other hand, her new color scheme is darker and less garish, her eyes are glowing red instead of flat and orange, and her breasts actually have nipples now. Again, not to bring this to an NSFW line of thought, but a lot of folks consider realistically-shaped breasts with nipples to be more genuinely Gothic (or, let's be honest, just attractive) than larger, featureless ones.



I guess we'll have to see. But just between us, given the catgirl enemies in CotM I think there'll be enough T&A in RotN to satisfy us, even if Vepar got a little "reduction" XD



Again, it depends. In the U.S they had to tone down the nudity for the CV games, like covering up some statues in CV4. I hope US ratings won't force IGA to do that, but he might not have a choice much like Konami didn't have a choice. We'll see, though, maybe the ratings agencies are cooler nowadays. But as for gore, I think we'll have plenty of that. Miriam exploded into blood when she died in the demo footage, just like Alucard, so I think there'll be enough gothic blood to satisfy us old-school fans at least

gunlord500

Are they cat girls? I thought they were succubus... I wish the game had a bestiary as it is you have to go to the web site just to find out any of the bosses names, and even that won't tell you Gremory's name.

Hugh Hefners zombie playmates... nice.

Yeah but that was Super Castlevania and mostly it was censored because of Nintendo. Bloodlines wasn’t censored thankfully, well only in Europe. Everything after SotN wasn’t censored either. To be honest I don’t think SotN was censored either... I only think it was the Succubus profile pic on the manual.

As for Veparr I didn’t know. Most of the reactions I saw on YouTube and a couple of other gaming sites where pretty positive. The colors and overall look gave of old school Castlevania giant boss vibes. It was ridiculous but in a good way, plus the colors helped it stand out and not blend in with the scenery. Sort of like most Harmony of Dissonance bosses.



It’s not nonsense, specially with a project like this one. The key thing is how do we know that content like that won’t get cut out? How can we trust that the rest of the game won’t be butchered and become generic in the process? Is there any bias in the feedback they receive? What if people like something just for it to be changed by a small vocal minority?

What type of assurance do I or any other backer have in this? Because I would want my money back if there is that sort of foul play behind the scenes.

I would appreciate if Angel-Corlux-Corlux would reply to my previous post on the matter.