Miriam should have a room (Submitted)

Jul 8, 2015 22:22:20 GMT -6 JeffCross said:

Hey,

no need to suger coat it, especially when we are speculating over a feature that might or might not be implemented by the developers! So no hard feelings.

I mam not a fan of fully costumizing your room, because it strikes me as odd to enter a demon infested castle, slaying the minions of hell, tracking down mysteries and refurbish a room. You see the last part seems so out of place and weird.

I don't claim my solution to be the superior one, but a room in a conjured up castle that is either bending to the needs of it's master  or reflecting the master's state of mind (much like the castle is reflecting Gebel's state of mind), does make more sense.

As for your last paragraph, just because I said that the room should be affected by Miriam's action doesn't mean the story should be included. I'd rather see the room as an éxtension to give a you a glimpse of what you will expect.

But hey - I'm not here to breath down on your neck, either. As said, we don't even know if the devs look at that idea, if stuff gets passed along etc. etc. So why not explore all possibilities?

So let's just pretend we both are inti employees and work close with Igarashi (no, please don't feint here!) We currently laid down both of our ideas for the "Miriam's room" and are in a heavy battle of which idea and approach should be better. The snacks at the meeting table and the accompanying beverages get dangerously low. Count Iga does not look all to happy, us battling with ideas and styles, but is intrigued that we are so passionate about this one feature that he rolls with it and doesn't step right in. After all it's a passion project and should show our very heart poured in. The minutes are ticking and the back and forth is getting us nowhere. The shifting shadows in the meeting room reflect the time that has already passed... though we do not care about time, since this game should be a monument, that shall endure time itself!

Weary we look each other in the face... are we both wrong? Or maybe, are we both right? It seems that a new idea is forming, something born out of our passion. Born into this world, you could say: conjured up.

We both begin: "What if..." and suddenly stop. Both being surprised that we try a different take... could it be we have the very same idea? Or is it the idea, having us... possessing us? After a brief moment we muster up the courage to let this idea wild into the open, unleashing it onto the world.

"What if we combine..." you start. "... both of our ideas." you finish. We nod to each other, knowing we are creating history here. "Yes, let's take the idea that the room can alter in different themes." you say "But is customizable." I add. Another nod from us. The weariness from Igarashi drops, did he just smile? Was he manipulating us? Did his vampiric powers influence us and we bring forth his idea, or is he just relieved that he got the right persons on the team. We never dare to ask, but there is some uneasyness that fills us, when our minds wander down this route.

"Yes, you can set it items that will give you boons and the like, while the items that we can place are bound to our playstyle." - "So a person that would rely a lot on spells, would be able to place items that augment that playstyle!" - "But there should be also some generic items, open to everyone." - "But only useful stuff, we have a full castle of wonders and the room should be no ordinary room, it should reflect the very essence of the castle." - "Like a chest that spawns item after a set amount of time." - "Wonderful! But I think it should never be a safe haven!" - "Yeah, let's freak the players out! Sometimes when they enter the room it gets taken by the curse and there should be events." - "Like a haunting that appears in the room. It should give the player an unexpected surprise, but not at the cost of the game's enjoyment!"

Suddenly, a single Applause. All look at one direction. Count Igarashi stands and says: "Very well, with that settled now... let's move onto the next idea."

We are eying each other. It's gonna be a long day, but a day we are gonna relish!

Jul 9, 2015 0:36:20 GMT -6 JeffCross said:

Jul 9, 2015 0:08:13 GMT -6 florianbingart said:

again I see your point of view but I really don't like the idea of being restricted to furnishing the room to fit a play style... this is a secret base that is hidden in the last part of Gebel's humanity... the part of him that wants to keep Miriam safe. so it has to be a safe haven. there are too many ways to affect gameplay style (through weapons/armor/familiars/etc) there should be a place just for the play to have fun oir rest... I think there should even be a way to find mini-games  and play them in the room.

I am not into RP so I cannot answer in story form (but I would love it if you would join us in the Bloodstained manga as a writer?) but bottom line I don't want a debate. you've stated what you want: a functional room that affects gameplay or gamestyle.

Were as I just want a room to break the gameplay, a place to relax, buy stuff, make stuff, you know just have fun...

if we focus too much on the game I feel I would burn us out... this safe haven is just that... in SotN there were so many things that broke you away from the main story... sitting, hidden rooms, hidden weapons, capes you can color of etc... I know you want functionality, but a bit of fun in the game should also be thought of... or else the game becomes bogged down with... work... a game should not be work.

one more thing the whole point of the room was to decorate it the way the player wants it... if the stat boost or boons affect the player then just about everybody will have similar looking rooms... that sucks out the individuality... and I'm not ok with that.

You are tearing me apart, JeffCross! You are tearing me apart! But kidding aside, a healthy debate doesn't hurt anybody, as long as each party stays civil

Personally I think collecting furniture and refurbish it to you biding is more of a grind and would exhaust me more and that is something I personally have no interest in. But that exactly what it breaks down, personal preference. It is the same, why I love that shops and smiths have a set location. I like the sense of danger that traversal to the point is giving me. i.e. I run out of potions and I need to be careful to get some potions. A room that will be my hub and be everywhere will just remove that. But again - personal preference!

As for the similiar looking rooms, well that depends on how nuanced the system in place would be . Much as a "improve your room" approach! If we get like just get 4 different chairs and 4 different tables, there won't be anything distinguishable for each player.

My Approach can function and be just as unique. For example the system could have a lot of tiles for "Melee orientated" rooms to draw upon from, not only making each room unique, but making it unique everytime you enter. In addition there could be a visible change, if you change your playstyle. For example persons that would favor the usage of "melee weapons" would get room a (with different subsets of a1, a2, a3, a4, a5 to mix things up) , but now would start being rather a spellcaster and should get room b (with different subsests of b1, b2, b3, b4 and so forth). Though instead of switching it would take sets from a and b to create room ab (which will alter ab1, ab2, ab3, ab4) and each time you enter the room, there will be a sense of wonder.

As for the thread Invitation. I kindly refuse, not that I'm not interested, but I already have enough on my plate as is... and I don't want just chrrn out hollow lines, just for the sake of participation .