Am I the only one feeling a bit disappointed?

@scars

So "nitpicky" and "ridiculous" are words too strong for you.

How about "condescending"?

You're never going to convince people about anything by telling them what to say and how to say it. People don't like being told what to do.

I agree with Purify 100%. Wissenschaft didn't mean any harm, and the discussion is off-topic anyway, so let's turn it back to talking about the game. Esteban, let the topic drop, everyone has made their points and nobody needs to belabor it any further. If something concerning happens, like Purify said, us mods are always on the case, so just PM us, alright?

Back on topic, Pure Miriam, I'm interested in your comment about "Lead Systems." It's definitely something we could ask the team next time around Out of curiosity, though, what made you think Xbox was a possibility for the lead system? I'd have figured it'd almost always be straight to PC for most games like this, given how versatile the PC platform is

gunlord500 well, i said it could be both the XBox One OR the PC. My main reasoning for this is that the Demo came with support for Xinput (Xbox 360 / Xbox one Controllers). Of course the game would have that either way, but to add that in a Demo, for me, shows that the lead plataform they are using to develop is either a PC (due to the Windows 7 / 8 / 10 support for Xinput from the start) or Xbox One. If you watch the gameplays they do since the beginning, they are using a XBox controller too. 

The PC can be the lead plataform too, but as i said, computers are a special case due to the possibility of downgrade / upgrade. Since the architecture of Xbox One is really close to PC  (XBox One is built with DirectX 12, for instance) they could easily use it as a lead plataform for developing purposes. As i said, when deciding minimal requirements for a PC game, most developers goes for the DirectX as a base, since the DirectX requires a ton of hardware to run properly and it is a overall performance check of a computer nowadays.

Althought, i don't think they would TELL us what lead plataform is (if it is not a PC) for commercial purposes. Developers developing for a lot of plataforms shouldn't show off their personal preference. From a business standpoint, i think it may not be good.

Now, lovelydumpling you are right on that, but considering we are talking about a indie developer without a huge staff, i think they also consider what is easier to be done, and, to my knowledge, programming in a Xbox One is easier than a PS4. But yes, you could be right. Let's agree that the lead plataform can be Xbox One, PC or PS4 then 

ABout the i3 / i5, yes. My brother has a i5 gaming laptop, and i have a old i3 desktop. I'm not in a good financial situation at the moment, unfortunately   so i can't upgrade it yet, i hope i will be able to when the game is out. Even so, if it doesn't work properly, i will just use my brother's laptop to play it. But my i3 is magic, because i was able to run 2017 AAA games on it   sometimes i think i did a overclock on it by mistake and it stuck to that 

My two cents about the multi-platform issue:
I'm apt to believe that nowadays if you're making a game and going to release it on PC, the lead platform (or main platform) should be PC, since most work is done on it.
From dev's aspect, PC is the first testing platform.
Modern game engine like UE4 is very aware of cross-platform capabilities, and since PS4 / XBOX are all based on x86 architecture, I didn't see that much of problem of porting a game that is built on PC to these two platforms, all you need is devkit (dev console + SDK, and of course the engine itself).
But to achieve the best performance for a platform, you'll need to optimize your code specifically for it, or even more, downgrade the graphics by turning off some shaders / effects for more steady framerate.
I'm mentioning this mainly because of NS, our dev team might need some extra effort to make this game play smoothly on that device.

Vita on the other hand is kinda gloomy... Not only because that platform is WAY under-powered than the others, but also the UE4 engine itself is not ready.
I know Armature is handling the Vita port of UE4, but I doubt they can make it available when the game is ready for port (like end of 2017).
BS may just use a small portion of features in UE4, but it's still a huge project anyway.
A wild guess is the Vita version might get another delay.

Anyway, despite of all these, the multi-platform aspect shouldn't be our major concern now IMHO, we're still building the main game contents!

Surprised that no one thought to mention it, but another case for the Xbox One is how whenever Bloodstained has been featured at a large multiplatform show, it's generally within the Xbox/Microsoft portion. It has been much more prominently featured as an "Xbox One indie" than a PS4 one.

I don't specifically know where Bloodstained's booth was at E3 this year, but in 2016 they were in Microsoft's territory and Zangetsu was first shown during an MS event a while back. This could be for a number of reasons, though, and I would think perhaps to market it more to an audience that normally doesn't get or pick up on Japanese games. That, and Xbox Live SotN was a big hit.

All that said, I too think that the PC version is the lead, and all the other versions excluding NS and Vita should be fairly painless ports. I expect the Vita's graphics in particular will probably suffer, but as the case is with some of those comparison shots castledan posted, I'm hoping it's more a difference in subtle detail and textures than stylistic differences. The games are all about style, and as zoomed out as the action usually is, less elaborate Miriam and enemies should be fine on a portable. MK9 up there for an example, the game looks very similar in overall aesthetic and lighting from how they're displayed whereas Revelations 2 doesn't. That's the nature of the genre and the age of the games, partially, too. I know they'll do their best with it, and hope everybody likes it

I just want to say I am very satisfied with the progress of the game development and I trust IGA, as I always have.

Don't apologize you're an infinitely more busy person than me. 

I don't know if I was clear with what I was saying though so I'll try to be more concise with what I said:

Basically I'm wondering is - Are the weaker systems holding back what you do visually with the stronger systems? So does the VITA prevent the PS4 version from using more power draining effects for the visuals? I was saying I don't think that will be the case and that each system will be utilized to the best of it's ability or as much as the team can pull off. Whereas some were curious if they might not do visuals that are too nice so it will look more consistent between the PS4/Xbox One/PC versions and the VITA/SWITCH versions.

Tl;dr version: Does the VITA and SWITCH hold back the stronger systems power? 
I hope that helps. lol


Thanks Mana. Game is looking great, only have maybe one issue with it thus far.....which is pretty insane because I'm a complainer