Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night E3 2017 Trailer & Gameplay

If loving her is wrong, I don't wanna be right.

It's very interesting to see how many people think Miriam looks "slow", from a technical standpoint i think her move-to-ground-covered speed is identical (if not faster) than every igavania protag. Sense of speed in general is more psychological than mechanical, it's not the kind of thing you can simply solve by making the animation faster.

Remember how fast Alucard looked? Actually Alucard "looked" slow as hell because his sprite is ridiculously overanimated, from the start to normal running he has like 30 frames: www.castlevaniacrypt.com/img/sotn/sprites/alucard-4.png But you still thought he "looked fast" because Alucard had afterimages to literally everything he did, giving the fake idea that he was super fast.

But then why is Miriam "slow"? IMO it's because instead of sick afterimages she has a long blue scarf that sloooowly goes up and down when she runs, jumps and stops. It's a 3D thing with physics so it's constantly moving at 60 fps right besides her. It makes her look much slower and "floaty" than she should be.

Edit: I went back to look a video from the previous E3 demo and i realized that they actually changed Miriam's scarf. It used to have it's own "aura", it leaves a trail of blue/purpuish smoke as you run and drops very small white sparks that fade away (or petals i dunno). Now it doesn't do that anymore, it's just a piece of cloth.


I think this might be the issue lol, the trail used to make you "feel cool" when running so it distracted you the scarf itself, now that it doesn't, you focus on how the scarf moves and Miriam "looks slow".

I admit the blue form did bother me. That was until you see her start summoning identically colored monkeys. It dawned on me that these are not creatures, but crystal manifestations of power.

Galamoth and Enkeria about Skill Shards and progression abilities overall, i believe they will follow more or less the same route that Aria anda Dawn did. Progression abilities (inside Skill Shards or other types) are mandatory, so, you can't put them at any random factor. Any enemy that has a progression ability to give, will give at a 100% drop rate, for sure. 
Now, about if Skill Shards will be found only at pillars or also at enemies, that's something to think about. Dawn of Sorrow, for instance, had several bosses with progression abilities (Gray souls and other types of souls). I think thatwastes good powers potential from bosses.

Let's take Bloodless for instance. We don't know what Shard she gives us (the demo ends right after Miriam farms it, damn!) but it is Trigger. Considering all her neat powers, it would be a waste if her shard would be something mandatory like high jump or some gimmick to break walls. By putting those things at Shard pillars, you can save Bloodless shard for something neat, like  Blood Arrow (throwing a bloody umbrella like an attack) or even Summon Bloodless herself! 


CastleDan thrashinuva nekurors i totally agree. There is one video, i don't know if any of you noticed, one of the small ones, where Miriam uses a Shard we didn't saw she farming. Giaramund's Shard (the dog) and it is also a summon Shard. She summons Giaramund that shows up and attacks in a jumping arch of sorts. It's pretty neat. And...blue.
So, Dullahammer Head familiar, Ape and Giaramund's Summon shards are all blueish. That is really odd, because at the 2016 Demo, we got a Summon Shard, from Amy. And it wasn't blueish like that. It was Amy with a purple flame, instead of a blue one. I really want them to change that. If all familiars and Summon Shards were to be like that, that will be...quite a visual problem.

She's a manifestation of my two worst ex-girlfriends. There's no saving me.

It has already been confirmed that Shards can be leveled, and you level them by collecting more of the same Shard. So, they already have a use, by collecting more than one. But yes, healing a bit of MP would be nice even with that.



Although i don't see a problem with Miriam's speed, i agree that, if you put Bloodstained video at 1.25 speed, it actually looks better, in my opinion (but i also like the way it is now). Also, although i understand it is almost the same speed as Symphony of the Night, we need to remember that SOTN is a 20 years old game. So...it is a bit hard to use it as a comparison for the new players that probably born after Symphony of the Night was released.
I don't see a problem with Miriam's speed, nor with Alucard speed, but for the new players, comparison to a 20 years old game maybe doesn't mean much, i'm afraid.
But yes, you nailed it. She has the same speed as Alucard.

Sorry if it's already been mentioned in the thread, but has it been said if the E3 2017 demo will be made available to backers?

Let's not forget that an Igavania is not designed for you to speed through all the environments to race to the end of the game. The speed of Bloodstained being highly representative of the speed of SOTN is an example of the style of product that he advertised in the beginning, and is a testament to itself.

If you want fast, though, there's a couple of new Sonic games coming out.

Pure Miriam : despite that, a good opinion is an informed opinion. Players (and especially backers of a project) should understand what a game goal is, and what it sets out to do. Criticizing Bloodstained's speed is pretty much ignoring that the game wants to recreate a certain feel which is part of the style of the director. It's like criticizing Metal Gear Solid for having characters with weird powers in an otherwise absolutely realistic environment: I may not like it, but it is part of Kojima's style, and therefore if I have an informed opinion I would have to admit that it may not be for my taste, not treating it like it's a fault of the game.