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Post by JeffCross on Jun 26, 2015 19:50:00 GMT -6
I wonder if there will be a familiar pen... or at least a room where you can care for them... or at least find some one to take care of them. Maybe a demon... wouldn't it be cool if you could capture demons. turn them and make them take care of stuff in your room (if there is a room for Miriam in the game). And the stronger the demon the more powerful your familiars will become.
But I think it should be included in the bestiary, weather the demon has the aptitude for helping
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Post by iggyg85 on Jun 26, 2015 21:09:07 GMT -6
I wonder if there will be a familiar pen... or at least a room where you can care for them... or at least find some one to take care of them. Maybe a demon... wouldn't it be cool if you could capture demons. turn them and make them take care of stuff in your room (if there is a room for Miriam in the game). And the stronger the demon the more powerful your familiars will become. But I think it should be included in the bestiary, weather the demon has the aptitude for helping That could be possible. If I remember right, some of the 72 demons weren't inherently evil, so maybe one of them can care for your stable of creatures. |
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Post by Arcueid Brunestud on Jun 26, 2015 21:26:09 GMT -6
I wonder if there will be a familiar pen... or at least a room where you can care for them... or at least find some one to take care of them. Maybe a demon... wouldn't it be cool if you could capture demons. turn them and make them take care of stuff in your room (if there is a room for Miriam in the game). And the stronger the demon the more powerful your familiars will become. But I think it should be included in the bestiary, weather the demon has the aptitude for helping You're gonna have to tell the Iga team that idea. They just might accept it. ...Unless they're already reading our posts?! |
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Post by zoned87 on Jun 26, 2015 21:37:03 GMT -6
My only hope for familiars is that there is a wide variety of them so everyone can choose one that they like.
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Post by JoJo on Jun 26, 2015 22:05:17 GMT -6
but I think most people will only picked the strongest familiar though....
Well, maybe a selection of the strongest
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Post by zoned87 on Jun 26, 2015 22:07:02 GMT -6
A common problem, the best solution is to not have one that stands out as being exceptionally better than the others. That way they would feel more compelled to make their own decisions.
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Post by JoJo on Jun 26, 2015 22:12:01 GMT -6
A common problem, the best solution is to not have one that stands out as being exceptionally better than the others. That way they would feel more compelled to make their own decisions. Well, to me the solution for this is that the familiar will also have their levelling system, so even the strongest familiars will not have a big margin with the familiar that you still using when they are at max level |
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Post by Arcueid Brunestud on Jun 26, 2015 22:23:04 GMT -6
Well, it'd be easier to choose depending on what you prioritize. Like a fairy for healing, a ghost for dealing status ailments, or knight for pure damage.
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Post by Philly "F'n" Belmont on Jun 26, 2015 22:56:55 GMT -6
I wonder if there will be a familiar pen... or at least a room where you can care for them... or at least find some one to take care of them. Maybe a demon... wouldn't it be cool if you could capture demons. turn them and make them take care of stuff in your room (if there is a room for Miriam in the game). And the stronger the demon the more powerful your familiars will become. But I think it should be included in the bestiary, weather the demon has the aptitude for helping Yes, capture and control idea..to enslave and turn into demon nannies and housekeepers. |
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Post by Cale on Jun 26, 2015 23:41:31 GMT -6
but I think most people will only picked the strongest familiar though.... Well, maybe a selection of the strongest It's true for people who are competitive. But not everyone will be playing for optimization. Or even if they do, I'm sure on subsequent playthroughs people will want variety, and end up using a different weapon/familiar/playstyle. It's inevitable that one choice will be more obvious than another, it's up to the player to choose. |
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Post by JeffCross on Jun 27, 2015 5:00:19 GMT -6
Where was this written? Crap I missed so much case I backed so late  I wish I could but I have no idea how to get in contact with them lol except for Ben Judd but he rarely answers me... I wish they read our post XD Me too I wish there are going to be a bunch of familiars XD. I wonder how many types there will be... Arcueid Brunestud said something like (not exactly what was said lol): - fairy type for healing,
- ghost type dealing status ailments
- knight type for pure damage.
But I think there should be more types like helper types: - maybe one that could stop time for a bit,
- one that opens portal like holes for you,
- one that makes enemies dance (one of those WTF powers lol)
- one that turns enemies into something else like gold crystals or other enemies (like you can load an enemy card in the familiar and every time you use its power it turns it into that
- enemy.. if there is no card loaded it just turns them into the weakest enemy)
I don't like the word "enslave" I want it to be more like these demons don't want to be there anyway so they are easy to turn to your side:) |
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Post by DragonByDegrees on Jun 27, 2015 7:02:35 GMT -6
Where was this written? Crap I missed so much case I backed so late I wish I could but I have no idea how to get in contact with them lol except for Ben Judd but he rarely answers me... I wish they read our post XD Me too I wish there are going to be a bunch of familiars XD. I wonder how many types there will be... Arcueid Brunestud said something like (not exactly what was said lol): - fairy type for healing,
- ghost type dealing status ailments
- knight type for pure damage.
But I think there should be more types like helper types: - maybe one that could stop time for a bit,
- one that opens portal like holes for you,
- one that makes enemies dance (one of those WTF powers lol)
- one that turns enemies into something else like gold crystals or other enemies (like you can load an enemy card in the familiar and every time you use its power it turns it into that
- enemy.. if there is no card loaded it just turns them into the weakest enemy)
I don't like the word "enslave" I want it to be more like these demons don't want to be there anyway so they are easy to turn to your side:) Various books on the occult. A few Goetics are said to be good natured and faithful, and some "desire to return to Heaven". Interesting stuff. |
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Post by crocodile on Jun 27, 2015 21:24:40 GMT -6
I think the two things I'm hoping for is that
A) We are given a bit more direct control over the familiars. Like the ability to direct them to do specific actions with maybe command inputs of something
B) That however many familiars we get, they are all useful in some regard. Like I thought any familiar that wasn't the Fairy or Sword in SOTN was pretty worthless except for those like two spots you needed the Devil familiar to flip switches
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Post by 1kasu on Jun 28, 2015 4:42:48 GMT -6
Could there be situations where familiars break free from your control? That would remind you that you have forced them to obey you.
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Post by JoJo on Jun 28, 2015 4:56:26 GMT -6
Could there be situations where familiars break free from your control? That would remind you that you have forced them to obey you. truthfully, i wouldn't want that it's like a captured pokemon trying to break free from the pokeball |
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Post by Arcueid Brunestud on Jun 28, 2015 5:16:42 GMT -6
Could there be situations where familiars break free from your control? That would remind you that you have forced them to obey you. truthfully, i wouldn't want that it's like a captured pokemon trying to break free from the pokeball I don't think familiars should be able to disobey you anyways. At least with the familars I know of. |
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Post by Cale on Jun 28, 2015 5:26:12 GMT -6
To me, basically a familiar is a servant bound to you by either magic, or some sort of contract. Who would willingly give their entire life to someone unless it's love or slavery? And I doubt that a floating suit of armor can feel love. I am looking at you Iron Man!
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Post by JeffCross on Jun 28, 2015 6:23:46 GMT -6
Could there be situations where familiars break free from your control? That would remind you that you have forced them to obey you. I personal don't want that but! if we take time to think about this... what if there's a familiar that locks other familiars from coming out (unless you go too far from an area... then comes back when you re enter that area) and if you walk into a previously empty room, the "familiar" becomes a boss monster... than after beating it, it makes a contract with you and really becomes your familiar. |
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Post by SML on Jun 28, 2015 6:32:58 GMT -6
I was under the impression there was only one familiar, the knight.
Isn't that what they said during the KS ending stream, or am I imagining things?
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Post by Leon on Jun 28, 2015 6:33:09 GMT -6
From what I've gathered, the two suggested options for obtaining familiars would be to either find them (via (random) monster drops I assume) or crafting them? Then I'd like to suggest the following: how about having to find them somewhere, in a room or after a special event, but not having them join you unless you accomplish some tasks for them, having to increase your bond and trust with the familiar in order for them to have a contract with you? That would make it more rewarding, and maybe would be better than "I'm a mindless spirit following you around." I was under the impression there was only one familiar, the knight. Isn't that what they said during the KS ending stream, or am I imagining things? Concerning the ending stream, yes, you didn't imagine things. However, here's a quote from Ben in the KS' comments: "I think Iga really liked the fairy... He might be able to be convinced to have her in the game. You are a backer so your opinion does matter." So there might be a way to have a fairy along with the knight, and why not, maybe more familiars? |
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