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Post by l0ckd0wn on Oct 7, 2015 8:53:01 GMT -6
One of my favorite retro games on the NES was Faxanadu. Most people don't even remember it, but realistically it was fairly important as a Metroivania game that had aspects of SOTN (leveling, armor, weapons, etc), like an unrefined precursor. My biggest beef was the "mantra" codes that it had in place instead of saving. It was difficult, having similar issues to the original NES Castlevania. You had to buy engagement rings for your jump arcs, sometimes enemies that didn't hit you registered a hit, sometimes you would literally see your weapon intersect into the enemy sprite and it still didn't register. You couldn't travel between areas via portal or whatever, so going anywhere was a trek. Those problems aside, it was a great game. Stage design was great, the palette broad enough (but could have used more color diversity), the story was "meh", and the music was... Well, it was memorable in the same way Torgo's is in the movie Manos: The Hands of Fate. I'm having trouble accurately describing the game at the moment, and I might come back to it later so I can be more descriptive. I really suggest you give it a go. HOWEVER you need to be able to set your expectations back about 25 years in terms of what you're used to. While it's a great game, it'll always pale in comparison to SOTN or POR. But for an NES game? Not bad. Just wanted to make it known that this was/is the first game that comes to mind whenever anyone talks about rare or obscure games of the past. Another was Gemfire for Genesis. Also want to make it known that this post was the reason I joined the forum, so thanks I think... A little more about Faxanadu is available at Wikipedia.
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Post by qaantar on Oct 7, 2015 10:11:24 GMT -6
Another great thing about Faxanadu -- the music. It has some really nice tunes.
I had some other old PC games pop into mind -- basically the old Apogee/ID 2D games. Commander Keen, Duke Nukem (2D!), Hocus Pocus.
Great times. I think I saw Keen available on Steam, which means it's probably available on other PC platforms...
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Post by ghaleon on Oct 7, 2015 14:41:33 GMT -6
Most of Falcom's games have great music. But uhh.. it was rare? I mean I didn't know anyone who had it granted, but the last time I went to a retro game store, they had like a dozen copies being sold for like 5 bucks only. I would have bought one if I didn't think it owuld make me wanna bust out my nes which is a pain to set up, and is the US version so it has issues like you have to blow the cart, wiggle the cord, manually depress the cart inside the perfect amount cuz the spring doesn't do it anymore, have the game freeze randomly... if you don't know the US NES is a pos compared to the other regions. Even if it was never mistreated (like my own), it ages very very poorly... which is why you see people like AVGN use custom NES things.
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Post by Wilhelm on Oct 13, 2015 0:24:04 GMT -6
This past Friday I actually played through Faxanadu again. Mainly because my friend's Plex server was taken down indefinitely by the owner, leaving my broke self without entertainment.
Looking back, without the nostalgia, pure gameplay, 28 years later - It was too short. After having really developed my eye-hand coordination over the years, mastering the horrendous jump-arcs of olden' times, overall the game is easy. Games in that era relied on those jump arcs to increase the difficulty. It also had a major reliance on backtracking in order to make the game seem three times longer than it is. I was thinking back before, when I suggested this game, and I remembered this long epic quest. I remembered slaying dragon men with huge "Gunhead"-like heads and zombies that seemed to scratch their butts as they walked (no, really - play the game and watch them). Nope. Another reason I'm going to have to be critical is the bad "level management" of the game. Before, you wanted to keep your EXP low and your GP high, this due to the necessary Wingboots that actually give less time as you level-up. But leveling up is going to happen if you are trying to get GP, which you actually need a lot of if you want to keep your equipment strong and, more importantly, afford the multitude of keys you'll need. These can all be racked up to 'game length' and 'mechanics', though. For a game of that era, it may have had very little replay value (I beat it in about two hours), but what it did have was inspiration.
I say this because it actually had great stage design. It wasn't too difficult, but it wasn't too easy either. All in all it was very fluid, and the tilework was great. I think it had a lot to do with the layers. At the time, this was a pretty new concept, and the only popular game from that period -that comes to mind immediately- that used it was Super Mario Bros. 3. I'm sure others did, I just can't seem to think of them. Enemies could seemingly hide, and in the mist stage of the game it served as a great obstacle. Enemy design was even great. It may not have had the diversity of Persona or Castlevania when it comes to creatures of lore, BUT what was there... it fit. Especially with a lot of Giger and Lovecraft elements in the mist. I have a major love-hate relationship with that stage, as you can probably tell. The music was also well composed for an NES game, it all being complementary to the stages. Especially once you exit the elf town and begin your descent up the world tree. That track is very memorable, and while repetitive it wasn't tiring.
Anyway, that's a brief retrospect-review. It may not have much replay value outside of the second playthrough, but I think you can definitely see the influence it may have had on future games if you pay attention.
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Post by qaantar on Oct 14, 2015 4:48:13 GMT -6
For not-so recent games:
Mark of the Ninja.
Really incredible side-scrolling platformer.
1. Wonderful art. 2. Great (mood) soundtrack. 3. Reactive environment. 4. Customizable play style. 5. Nifty puzzles. 6. Simple yet profound story.
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Post by Malek Deneith on Dec 14, 2015 11:26:39 GMT -6
Bumping this up to spread awarness of a damn good PS4 release that seems to have flown under the radar due to combination of insufficient promotion and visuals that make it seem, at a glance, seem unworthy of the price asked. The game in question is called N++ and is a hard as nails platformer with high emphasis on momentum usage. The concept is simple. You play as a ninja with great acrobatic skills that come at a cost of natural lifespan of a minute and a half. You need to spend that time beating five levels full of various dangers (from mines, to drones, to various turrets, to unsafe landing angles, all of them deadly) while collecting as much gold placed around the level as possible (since it's the only way of increasing your timelimit at 2 second gain per piece picked up). The levels are made to fit wholly on one screen but are really, really well crafted, and there is a ton of them - currently over 1000 levels for solo play and almost as much for coop and racing (local only sadly). On top of that the game comes with an inbuilt level editor (which sees much use in hands of fans), and the developers are, to my knowledge, still planning on adding more content (there were talks of another 1.5k levels total and more play modes) and want to make a Steam port although I imagine with low amount of sales the game seems to be getting and a loss of a programmer this might not come fast (if at all :/). For the record the game originally was a flash game (and if you want to take a closer look on how the game plays you can find the free flash version here. The levels in PS4 version are mostly new although there is a selection of best "legacy" levels included) and prior to N++ there was a XBLA verson called N+. Also, have a random Youtube video of one of the levels in game as a showcase: So to sum it up: good platformer, not enough exposure. If you have PS4 and like platoformers maybe look at the flash version and consider if you'd like to support the PS4 one, if not then perhaps you can spread awarness to some friends who are into this sort of game. Crying shame to see it flop.
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Post by Astaroth on Jan 12, 2016 20:10:28 GMT -6
and it looks like secret of manas not gonna be on vita now, only phones >.>
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Post by xCROOKEDx on Jan 12, 2016 21:07:39 GMT -6
While it's not at all old (it was released last year), Mystik Belle is a 16bit-inspired metroidvania adventure game designed by Last Dimension, better known as DarkFalzX, that has flown entirely under the radar (SteamSpy reports 1,946 ± 980 owners). Being very upfront, it's not great, but it is solid and worth a whack IMO. The soundtrack consists of chiptune inspired tracks, and definitely worth owning if you (Bandcamp has it for free, methinks). While it's not a pure metroidvania experience, I think that some of the people on this board would definitely enjoy it.It also has Laser Rats, so that's pretty cool.Battle Fantasia is a fighting game by ArkSystemWorks (best known for Guilty Gear, BlazBlue, and P4A) that was designed as an engine test game for the Taito Type X2 that has a great art style meant to be reminiscent of an JRPG. It also has a pretty good soundtrack. The story is presented in the visual novel style typical to ASW games, however the fighting mechanics are a bit easier than most ASW games, and it feels much closer to Street Fighter than BlazBlue, I would say.
Also, Ashley is mai husbando. Like sooo much.
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Post by GenericSoda on Jan 12, 2016 22:07:37 GMT -6
Battle Fantasia is a fighting game by ArkSystemWorks (best known for Guilty Gear, BlazBlue, and P4A) that was designed as an engine test game for the Taito Type X2 that has a great art style meant to be reminiscent of an JRPG. It also has a pretty good soundtrack. The story is presented in the visual novel style typical to ASW games, however the fighting mechanics are a bit easier than most ASW games, and it feels much closer to Street Fighter than BlazBlue, I would say.
Also, Ashley is mai husbando. Like sooo much.
BATTLE FANTASIA HYYYYPPE I used to contribute articles to Gather Your Party, and one of their most prominent members is HyperbitHero, who makes videos about the kind of stuff in this topic. It's called Your Next Favorite, and while the bulk of it is about the Yakuza series (there's over twice as much Yakuza footage between two videos than the other two videos in the playlist combined!) I picked up Folklore on his suggestion and I'm quite enjoying it. Check the series out here: www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAKDpWaRcK8coLGAO5ZJgN7vWc-Xcj9F9
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Post by Malek Deneith on Jan 12, 2016 22:50:19 GMT -6
I mean, the Playstation (Vita) TV should be somewhere around $30-40 still and folks just recently apparently found a way to remove the whitelist restriction on the few games that weren't playable before. You're getting a modern home console for -really- cheap there. On one hand learning that PSTV is cheapo-cheap moves it from "eh I have Vita already" to "hey, I could play Vita games on big screen with a proper controller" territory on other... I am worried. I mean that's what, about eight times cheaper than Vita was? How can PSTV be so cheap - does removal of screen and buttons really cut the production cost so much?
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Post by xCROOKEDx on Jan 13, 2016 7:55:10 GMT -6
I mean, the Playstation (Vita) TV should be somewhere around $30-40 still and folks just recently apparently found a way to remove the whitelist restriction on the few games that weren't playable before. You're getting a modern home console for -really- cheap there. On one hand learning that PSTV is cheapo-cheap moves it from "eh I have Vita already" to "hey, I could play Vita games on big screen with a proper controller" territory on other... I am worried. I mean that's what, about eight times cheaper than Vita was? How can PSTV be so cheap - does removal of screen and buttons really cut the production cost so much? Partially, yes - removing the screens and touchpads does make it a lot cheaper. I can't imagine that the components are incredibly expensive either. However, that's not what makes it SO much cheaper than the Vita. Sony knows the PSTV is a flop (which is, quite frankly, almost entirely their own fault). They over-produced them because there was explosive demand for them worldwide after the E3 when they were announced. However, when it came out and everyone found out that it's less functional than a Vita, people really didn't want to buy it (sans content creators). So, now retailers are trying to get rid of the back-stock of them. And it's brilliant, because, as you say, at $40 dollars it goes from "No way, I'm not paying that much for a kinda bad micro-console" to "Hey, I can use that as a legal PS1 emulator box." Anyways, as tax to the thread, Marathon, Marathon 2, and Marathon Infinity are three Doom-style FPS games from Bungie, best known for Halo and Destiny. You can get legally for free online, along with an open source engine that will run the games on a modern system. There is also Oni by Bungie, but I don't think you can get a legal copy pretty much anywhere anymore.
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Post by Malek Deneith on Jan 13, 2016 10:26:55 GMT -6
Yeah I actually went and picked up a PSTV today after checking that all Atelier games and Dragon's Crown are compatible with it in EU. 720p on 1080p monitor looks kind of eh but for being able to use a proper controller to play? Gladly pay the price.
And +1 on that Marathon reccomendation, only played 1 and 2 thus far but they were great. They're more than Doom-style FPS I'd say - yeah there is action aplenty but they also come with Bungie-style convoluted and mysetrious plot that has people speculating to this day.
"P.S. If things around here aren't working, it's because I'm laughing so hard." - Durandal
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Post by Ghalion on Jan 13, 2016 10:36:58 GMT -6
Odyssey, the legend of nemesis. A great rpg with cool ass classical piano music. Catch is it was only out on macs so trying it for pc owners might be tough.
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Post by Astaroth on Jan 13, 2016 12:11:05 GMT -6
Battle of olympus, its an action platformer that id never heard of till a friend mentioned it, got some ninja gaiden bird jumps later in the game and the difficulty spikes in the maze, but its pretty fun to play
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Post by purifyweirdshard on Jan 13, 2016 12:34:16 GMT -6
^ Huh, I'll have to check that out. Haven't watched the video yet, but it looks cool. Malek Deneith , on the PSTV: I wouldn't be worried about the price/quality issue. It feels pretty solid, boots up as it should, etc. Sometimes the PSN store can be a pain to navigate and crash, but that used to happen on my PS3 too. I think the hardware itself is fine. I don't really get why so many people were disappointed in the thing to begin with, though. It's like they were all wanting it to laglessly stream their PS4's gameplay onto another TV in their house and use Netflix, etc. I mean, that would be...kinda cool and everything, but you can always just play the PS4 in the room that it's in anyway, or use the thousand of other ways to watch Netflix that don't even require set top boxes. IT'S A MODERN GAME CONSOLE FOR FORTY DOLLARS. It's previous gen now, sure, and it may not support all Vita/PSP games, but you're able to play a huge handheld library on a television, legally. That's almost always what I feel when I'm playing a portable game "man, I wish I could play this with a controller on a TV"...partially because of my vision problems, and partially because I feel like some genres are just better on consoles. You could probably pick out which Amazon review mine is from how I'm talking about it lol. If it doesn't work out for you, well, it was $20 cheaper than even a new game. Maybe skip a trip to the Olive Garden and you'll be fine.
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Post by Reiji Mitsurugi on Jan 13, 2016 15:16:22 GMT -6
IMO a great RTS released on the 90s, but it got a lot of hate just because it was very different from the original Total Annihilation. Still, great history, great gameplay, great f*ckin music (listen to the this, made with just 3 instruments, truly a work of a genius). I wonder why Cavedog went bankrupt after launching its expansion. Thank you for linking that song. Just... amazing.
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Post by Galamoth on Jan 26, 2016 16:38:32 GMT -6
Is there anyone else here who remembers this game?
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Post by Ghalion on Jan 26, 2016 17:21:35 GMT -6
Yeah but I never played it. I really kinda filtered out every game that named itself off what looks like a new attempt at mascot characters... Too many mascot games back then.
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Post by Astaroth on Jan 26, 2016 18:29:10 GMT -6
yup, used to rent it from blockbuster, wish i could find it cause it was a pretty fun game with a lot of shinto stuff in it
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