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Post by Ixbran on Jun 9, 2015 2:49:16 GMT -6
A new Update has been announced, apparently that Yoshitaka Amano, known for illustrating artworks for the final Fantasy series, is to be involved in Bloodstains development. Other things have been announced, but i'm too busy fan boying over game play of bloodstained to really pay attention to anything else, lol.
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Post by nekurors on Jun 16, 2015 20:54:11 GMT -6
The animations seems quite good for such an early version, just look how nice is Miriam 3D model. I just felt the time between swings were too short, too many attacks in a short time, anyway i can't wait for more development info.
It is a shame there was no screenshot of the game like that yet, i mean look at that, i want to see the models and background in details, they already looking fantastic.
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Post by hybridmiriam on Jun 16, 2015 21:32:06 GMT -6
Looks pretty good so far, the jumping is a little too ventricle but this is pre-alpha footage. Other than the jump it looks fantastic thus far.
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Post by SamXala on Jun 16, 2015 21:38:12 GMT -6
I just want more updates from the YouTube channel ._.
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Post by Administrator on Jun 16, 2015 22:06:09 GMT -6
I just want more updates from the YouTube channel ._. I'll drink to that!
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Post by hybridmiriam on Jun 16, 2015 22:22:35 GMT -6
I love the way he holds his wine glass.
I'm sure once they get up and running there will be a steady stream of videos updating us on the game's development. They kept with us every step of the kickstarter, I've never seen such support.
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Post by DragonByDegrees on Jun 16, 2015 22:25:52 GMT -6
I love the way he holds his wine glass. I'm sure once they get up and running there will be a steady stream of videos updating us on the game's development. They kept with us every step of the kickstarter, I've never seen such support. Seriously. They've pretty much set the bar for how to run a kickstarter and how to get your backers to advertise for you. I loved it!
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Post by hybridmiriam on Jun 16, 2015 22:30:21 GMT -6
I love the way he holds his wine glass. I'm sure once they get up and running there will be a steady stream of videos updating us on the game's development. They kept with us every step of the kickstarter, I've never seen such support. Seriously. They've pretty much set the bar for how to run a kickstarter and how to get your backers to advertise for you. I loved it! I wasn't that thrilled at first, I only checked in every few days, but mid-way through I started to realize how active and fervent they were; and by the end I was so pumped. Not only that, they knew their fanbase inside-out. Every stretch goal seemed to resonate with what we wanted. I'm looking forward to those update videos showing us its development. One leg of the journey is over, another begins.
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Post by Arcueid Brunestud on Jun 16, 2015 22:38:36 GMT -6
So true. The way they listened to their fanbase and really connected with them was really something special. Something I feel is lacking in Shenmue 3's KS which to them seems to feel like "business as usual". And most of the current stretch goals has to do with adding subtitles for different languages, instead of adding new modes, voice actors, etc. Of course, there was Ben Judd which made everything more interesting.
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Post by Ravenspear on Jun 16, 2015 22:39:58 GMT -6
Actually, doesn't it feel weird how this is happening? To be able to follow the development of a game from that early quite thrilling, my heart feels like racing and I'm not even a dev. It such a modern thing to be hyped that early for a product to be released in like 2 years
I'll have to agree with you, arcueid, Ben Judd is quite the interesting character, really
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Post by Arcueid Brunestud on Jun 16, 2015 22:44:24 GMT -6
Actually, doesn't it feel weird how this is happening? To be able to follow the development of a game from that early quite thrilling, my heart feels like racing and I'm not even a dev. It such a modern thing to be hyped that early for a product to be released in like 2 years That's the beauty of kickstarter. It's only recently where big names like Koji Igarashi are actually using it to make a game we all wanted. So there is going to be a lot of hype.
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Post by hybridmiriam on Jun 16, 2015 22:51:24 GMT -6
Actually, doesn't it feel weird how this is happening? To be able to follow the development of a game from that early quite thrilling, my heart feels like racing and I'm not even a dev. It such a modern thing to be hyped that early for a product to be released in like 2 years
I'll have to agree with you, arcueid, Ben Judd is quite the interesting character, really He really is, while I was watching the final stream I was mostly focused on him. He seems like he'd be a cool guy to hang out with, just shoot the ****.
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Post by WhisperingId on Jun 16, 2015 23:08:46 GMT -6
<rant>
interesting... i got a completely different vibe. i felt he was watching the $$$. showed his face to look like he cared, but sat back and counted how much ¥ the campaign would make.
In almost every other KS i've been a part of, the comment section was actually actively participated in by the group making the game, not some 3rd party 1) responsible for the merchandise 2) who often didn't have the answers and 3) couldn't really influence anything.
did we really influence any of the stretch goals? we _maybe_ had a hand in Miriam's PURE costume. The only thing that comes to mind that we directly influenced were the add-ons, but even then it wasn't individual add-ons but add-on tiers. there really wasn't much of a cost savings. which just goes back to the $$$ counting. add-ons made good "business sense" since they'd rake in more moola.
I think the KS, itself, was run ok. the achievement system and the stretch goals motivated people to really help spread the word to reach those goals, but something inside of me really doesn't feel like the campaign was _personal_. Granted, it's more personal, than, say, the Shenmue 3 KS currently, where i haven't seen the owner comment at all. especially for the most requested feature (HD remake of Shenmue 1 & 2). Stretch goals 1-4 have been reached, but no further goals have been revealed. At least the BS campaign was relatively quick to update those to keep us engaged.
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Post by Ravenspear on Jun 16, 2015 23:14:45 GMT -6
Yes, that's why Ben Judd was still answering people today, he would bring even more moolas (maybe on paypal who knows)
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Post by DragonByDegrees on Jun 16, 2015 23:17:08 GMT -6
<rant> interesting... i got a completely different vibe. i felt he was watching the $$$. showed his face to look like he cared, but sat back and counted how much ¥ the campaign would make. In almost every other KS i've been a part of, the comment section was actually actively participated in by the group making the game, not some 3rd party 1) responsible for the merchandise 2) who often didn't have the answers and 3) couldn't really influence anything. did we really influence any of the stretch goals? we _maybe_ had a hand in Miriam's PURE costume. The only thing that comes to mind that we directly influenced were the add-ons, but even then it wasn't individual add-ons but add-on tiers. there really wasn't much of a cost savings. which just goes back to the $$$ counting. add-ons made good "business sense" since they'd rake in more moola. I think the KS, itself, was run ok. the achievement system and the stretch goals motivated people to really help spread the word to reach those goals, but something inside of me really doesn't feel like the campaign was _personal_. Granted, it's more personal, than, say, the Shenmue 3 KS currently, where i haven't seen the owner comment at all. especially for the most requested feature (HD remake of Shenmue 1 & 2). Stretch goals 1-4 have been reached, but no further goals have been revealed. At least the BS campaign was relatively quick to update those to keep us engaged. </rant> The way I see it, either he cared or he didn't. If he cared, awesome! If he didn't, he's still making a point of catering to fans, answering questions, putting in appearances, etc., which is more than most do. Even if it's all an act, the effort alone is something I appreciate. I remember there were some heated discussions over whether the stretch goals were improvised or planned from the start. Some people felt that they had been planned and that we were being "cheated" because not all of the goals were revealed from the start, and some felt the goals were, in part, a result of fan requests during the campaign. Again, either way, I don't see it as a bad thing. Planned? They kept us in the dark to get more funding, which is a good thing, as more funding (in theory) leads to a better product. Improvised? They're taking fan input and using it to create goals we want and hopefully gaining more funding as a result, and more funding means.... yup.
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Post by WhisperingId on Jun 16, 2015 23:24:51 GMT -6
i'm probably.. well, no, most assuredly biased about the whole thing, if only because not a single one of my questions were ever answered directly.
And i'm gonna be that guy that says he's maybe looking out for his next campaign.
hence why everything was enclosed in <rant/>. it's my opinion only.
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Post by DragonByDegrees on Jun 16, 2015 23:41:01 GMT -6
i'm probably.. well, no, most assuredly biased about the whole thing, if only because not a single one of my questions were ever answered directly. And i'm gonna be that guy that says he's maybe looking out for his next campaign. hence why everything was enclosed in <rant/>. it's my opinion only. Could be, but what's wrong with that? Also, yeah, his AMA on Reddit could've been done better. He only has about two pages of replies, which sounds like a lot, but it isn't. Out of curiosity, what were your questions?
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Post by WhisperingId on Jun 16, 2015 23:54:18 GMT -6
id really have to go back through all of my comments. most of them surrounded current achievement progress, for which we never got clear answers on, so every time we tried to focus on a goal, it was because "we thought" it was the best one to focus on... i mean, if JeffCross and i could've stopped drawing comics and focused our time on other achievements, it would've been nice to know. there were others, relating to tiers, add-ons, etc, where i was asking on behalf of others, but the achievements were the biggest thing. and yes, the AMA was nice, and some important questions were answered, like the IP question, but i agree that they didnt answer as many as i feel they could've (i think it was ~45 minutes long). and there's nothing wrong with a guy looking out for his next income opportunity. Don't get me wrong, I am thankful for him putting the KS together. i just won't be the one to put him on a pedestal and revere him.
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Post by DragonByDegrees on Jun 17, 2015 0:30:18 GMT -6
id really have to go back through all of my comments. most of them surrounded current achievement progress, for which we never got clear answers on, so every time we tried to focus on a goal, it was because "we thought" it was the best one to focus on... i mean, if JeffCross and i could've stopped drawing comics and focused our time on other achievements, it would've been nice to know. there were others, relating to tiers, add-ons, etc, where i was asking on behalf of others, but the achievements were the biggest thing. and yes, the AMA was nice, and some important questions were answered, like the IP question, but i agree that they didnt answer as many as i feel they could've (i think it was ~45 minutes long). and there's nothing wrong with a guy looking out for his next income opportunity. Don't get me wrong, I am thankful for him putting the KS together. i just won't be the one to put him on a pedestal and revere him. Yikes. I'm sorry to hear that. I know some of those mightv'e been somewhat difficult to give up-to-the-minute answers on (for example, pictures and comics, as I think they had to show a certain amount of effort to count, so you couldn't just write a program to check # of unique pictures submitted to hashtagIgawhatever and update every 10 minutes), but it still sucks wanting to contribute but knowing there's a chance your contribution only helps if you do it a certain way, but you don't know which way that is... That problem probably could've been fixed with more staffing, but I think the community support and output was much greater than anyone really anticipated. Still, thanks for helping. Any chance I can see some of those comics?
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Post by hybridmiriam on Jun 17, 2015 1:24:53 GMT -6
I will concede that sometimes I wondered whether or not the stretch goals were pre-planned or just tossed in will-nilly as the kickstarter progressed. It was my first backed campaign and I had a blast following it from beginning to end. Ben Judd was there in the comments section for a major part of the kickstarter, and he participated in the lengthy stream too, moreover anyone would be excited about money. We like to get paid and rake in revenue/profit, I'd be worried if he didn't care about that.
There may have been some discrepancies here and there, but the entire team was involved, we had interaction with IGA himself, and overall I feel like we helped contribute not only in the creation of an idea, but minute aspects and details that were fully realised throughout the kickstarter.
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