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Post by masterlibrarian on Aug 11, 2015 9:47:18 GMT -6
Konami profits up by 159%, as mobile games gain tractionHot on the heels of fellow Japanese publisher, Square Enix, Konami--currently in the spotlight for all of the wrong reasons--has posted its financials for the quarter ended June 30, highlighting an increase in revenue and profit for the company as a whole, as well as the firm's game division. Overall, Konami's revenue rose by 5.3 percent, jumping from ¥48.6 billion ($390 million) to ¥51.2 billion ($411 million). More significantly, the publisher saw profit leap from ¥1.64 billion ($12 million) to ¥4.28 billion ($34 million) - a 159.9 percent increase. Digital Entertainment, Konami's dedicated games arm, also saw year-on-year revenue increase by 16.7 percent, rising from ¥20.4 million ($163,684) to ¥23.8 million ($190,965). Konami's foothold in the mobile market was a key factor in its success, with mobile titles such as Jikkyou Pawafuru Puroyakyu, which has surpassed 13 million downloads, PES Club Manager, Disney Tsum-Tsum, and Star Wars: Force Collection all enjoying "steady sales." Looking ahead, the publisher explained it's working hard towards the "inclusion of a sustained operation game mode that utilizes the operational expertise of mobile games", adding that console titles Pro Evolution Soccer 2016 and Metal Gear Solid V have also generated "great expectations." www.gamasutra.com/view/news/250656/Konami_profits_up_by_159_as_mobile_games_gain_traction.php
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Post by JordanJoestar on Aug 11, 2015 10:04:10 GMT -6
Meanwhile many people wonder why video games are dying... Until the casual gamers (aka "peasants") will continue to waste time and money with these filthy mobile games, the real videogames designed also as artistic products will have a hard life. May God bless us, the last of core gamers.
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Post by masterlibrarian on Aug 11, 2015 10:13:42 GMT -6
I'd like to think that this doesn't affect me, but it does to the extent that we'll never see new entries in our beloved franchises (that aren't a F2P mobile game or pachinko machine), or at least not for a long while.
But as long as there are developers making the sorts of games that I want to play, I'll still buy them. Heck, even if consoles eventually disappear, there'll always be the PC.
God bless the PC.
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Post by Dragon_of_Dojima on Aug 11, 2015 10:22:35 GMT -6
As much resentment as quite a few of us have towards this company, a lot of it completely justified, I'm not at all surprised with this. They're taking advantage of the mobile game boom going on in Japan to this day. Actually, I wouldn't even call it a boom. It's been going on for a decade over there. Not to mention the Soccer game and Metal Gear will do well for the short term.
As a guy with very little interest in mobile games save the Steven Universe mobile game(Which is actually pretty good), I'd rather not have mobile games be the future. However, it's starting to look like it is the future.
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Post by Malek Deneith on Aug 12, 2015 8:12:11 GMT -6
Meanwhile many people wonder why video games are dying... Until the casual gamers (aka "peasants") will continue to waste time and money with these filthy mobile games, the real videogames designed also as artistic products will have a hard life. May God bless us, the last of core gamers. Calling casual and/or console gamers "peasants" is not cool man. As for core gamers - which ones do you mean? The ones with top percentage machins that egged on the push for always cutting edge graphics leading to current trend of AAA games that spend millions on shiny looks, often at cost of gameplay? Or maybe the ones that go apeshit when a promising game with nice pixel art gets some coverage because it's "indie trash" and not an AAA title? Let's stop kidding ourselves - the business model of mobile games is making them more profitable, yes, but we are at least as much to blame here because we are the ones who voted with our wallets and brought on the situation where games can sell millions of copies and still be a commercial failure. Also one other thing to keep in mind - there is no real surprise mobile games in japan brin g a huge profit increase. You have to remember that average japanese gamer is going to be an horrendously overworked salaryman. These people don't have time for personal life, leave alone for non-mobile gaming.
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Post by Lelygax on Aug 12, 2015 8:48:01 GMT -6
Konami should be focusing on both and thus receiving even more profit, but noooooo... "Lets cut costs by firing brilliant people from our company, we can hire more if we need after" except that they doesn't notice that its gets harder and harder to find good people to create console games, if everyone starts to focus only on mobile.
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Post by Hyrist on Aug 12, 2015 10:01:25 GMT -6
You know what?
My mentality is "Let these old publishers vanish into the sunset, chasing after their dollars." We're headed into a Renaissance of independent game development, where true artistic game creators are taking more independent routes to come up with games that players will enjoy. Concerned more with the idea of creating a work they personally enjoy rather than churning out a product that will bring the most out of an investment.
Yes, it's still going to be a treacherous road, and yes, AAA development does look on its way to crashing - but it's seriously making way for these smaller titles to take root and approach the field of popularity.
So I Say. Let them chase after mobile and handhelds. Sure, they're surging now but the sustainability of that market will crumble as connectivity of devices continues to rise and you can play console level game from your handheld through your computer/cloud/whatever. Players will want affordable titles with complete connectivity over all their devices. Not something a mobile-only market can accommodate.
Meanwhile, easily accessible console titles will continue to push and sustain a gaming market on the consumer end with better focus on game-play thanks to the lower budget limitations. I really thing companies got ahead of themselves when pushing the bleeding edge of technology for entertainment. We're past the Uncanny Valley now, we don't need to go further, and often it's not wanted.
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Post by JordanJoestar on Aug 12, 2015 14:40:54 GMT -6
Meanwhile many people wonder why video games are dying... Until the casual gamers (aka "peasants") will continue to waste time and money with these filthy mobile games, the real videogames designed also as artistic products will have a hard life. May God bless us, the last of core gamers. Calling casual and/or console gamers "peasants" is not cool man. As for core gamers - which ones do you mean? The ones with top percentage machins that egged on the push for always cutting edge graphics leading to current trend of AAA games that spend millions on shiny looks, often at cost of gameplay? Or maybe the ones that go apeshit when a promising game with nice pixel art gets some coverage because it's "indie trash" and not an AAA title? Let's stop kidding ourselves - the business model of mobile games is making them more profitable, yes, but we are at least as much to blame here because we are the ones who voted with our wallets and brought on the situation where games can sell millions of copies and still be a commercial failure. Also one other thing to keep in mind - there is no real surprise mobile games in japan brin g a huge profit increase. You have to remember that average japanese gamer is going to be an horrendously overworked salaryman. These people don't have time for personal life, leave alone for non-mobile gaming. I used in this tread the word "peasant" for casual gamers who pay for play with mobile games. Yes, I admit that for me many console gamers are peasants but not all of them and I use this term as a provocation and for divide console gamers who have a good knowledge of videogame history and hardware from those console gamers who don't know anything about videogames, defend their exclusives and console only because they love the trademark as if it were a religion and claim to know more about the PC than a PC gamer, when in the lights of facts it's a miracle if they know the difference between RAM and VRAM. Anyway with my previus comment I didn't want take offence to the console gamers but was an attack against those that ruin videogames and I'm afraid that in the near future we will see videogame industry ruined as the music industry, without sperimentations and innovations. I'm a PC gamer and I pladged other games on Kickstarter. Backers of these games ask if they will supports DirectX 12, if we can play at 1440p of high resolutions, particle effects and many other graphic effects. Our PC can reach graphic effects that consoles can't but we also claim for rich gameplay, high object interaction and manipulation, dynamic environment, deep plot and characters, etc. It's incredible to read console gamers say who "PC gamers only look at graphic" when I saw an incredible war between PS4 gamers and XBOX One gamers for the graphic detail of Destiny (AAA game that was published unfinished and will be complete in the next 10 years with a cascade of DLCs); they arrived to analyze the AA of a single pixel for declaire where the game looks better... ridiculous. Also, PS4 gamers mock XBOX One gamers for Ryse Son Of Rome because is 99,99% graphic and 0.1% of gameplay but I read comments like "If Ryse was a Sony game now would be a masterpiece". And don't forget "the Ryse of Sony", in other words The Order 1886 where the gameplay and the story are driven and the gameplay consist of lots of Quick Time Events... "but the graphic is better than on PC", they said. How can you don't call this kind of console gamers as "peasants"? Well, don't take offence from my comment and I criticized who prefer spend mony on a game born only for collect money. Videogame is art, but maybe I'm only a naive dreamer.
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Post by XombieMike on Aug 12, 2015 16:02:57 GMT -6
Because you used pesants in quotation marks I'm surprised anyone was offended by it. Offense was obviously not the intent. Konami could care less about AAA titles right now. America is the entertainment producing world leader. If Japan doesn't provide for our markets demand then I'm sure we can do something ourselves for supply. Someone certainly will. I just will miss new Castlevania, but I have Bloodstained and all the old games so I'm set.
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Post by Galamoth on Aug 12, 2015 16:33:32 GMT -6
Because you used pesants in quotation marks I'm surprised anyone was offended by it. Offense was obviously not the intent. Konami could care less about AAA titles right now. America is the entertainment producing world leader. If Japan doesn't provide for our markets demand then I'm sure we can do something ourselves for supply. Someone certainly will. I just will miss new Castlevania, but I have Bloodstained and all the old games so I'm set. We can only hope that someone else who actually cares about the production of AAA titles shows up to eventually replace the current heads of Konami. Maybe even get both IGA & Kojima back into the fold and allow them to produce the games they want for those who'll love to play them. A man can dream.
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Post by XombieMike on Aug 12, 2015 16:48:33 GMT -6
Well, considering the thread title, I don't see the heads of Konami changing any time soon.
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Post by Galamoth on Aug 12, 2015 16:53:09 GMT -6
Well, considering the thread title, I don't see the heads of Konami changing any time soon. Neither do I, really. I do still want to see it happen eventually.
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Post by XombieMike on Aug 12, 2015 16:54:49 GMT -6
We could... kill them
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Post by gunlord500 on Aug 12, 2015 18:02:14 GMT -6
Well, considering the thread title, I don't see the heads of Konami changing any time soon. Yeah. It's a pity, but as long as they're rolling in bank, there's no incentive for them to change, and they may never be brought to task for their iniquities. ;-;
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Post by Malek Deneith on Aug 12, 2015 22:04:07 GMT -6
*cut for lenght* Well, don't take offence from my comment and I criticized who prefer spend mony on a game born only for collect money. Videogame is art, but maybe I'm only a naive dreamer. I guess it's less "offended" and more "annoyed". Annoyed because words like that tend to only stoke the flames of war between various types of gamers which is really frustrating to see. PC Gamers, Console Gamers, heck, even Mobile Gamers although I loathe mobile games myself and wouldn't touch one. We all share one and the same hobby so why the hell do we spend time fighting and belittling one another? It's just stupid, escpecially considering even at current time and age we are an acceptable target for attacks of non-gamers much too often. Myself I spent most of my life with just a PC but I don't intend to let that limit me. If a game interests me I'll use whatever system necessary to play it, and if it comes on multiple ones I'll pick whichever is most convenient. As for graphics - yeah I'll accept console gamers can be as graphics obsessed as pc gamers, but I still maintain the later are more responsible for pushing what is accepted and not in terms of graphics simply because they can squeeze out more. And I think we pushed graphics too far to fast - even current gen PC graphic cards are starting to have trouble keeping up is it a wonder consoles can't, especially if by the time a new one comes out it's hardware is already outdated? Used to be that high-end graphic settings were something of a bragging right, nowdays people seem to have the mindset that anything below ultra or equivalent is subpar (and call me old fashioned but the 2k/4k screens at 120 fps feel like a bit overkill). I think it'd be good if our graphical march slowed down and paced itself a bit but I doubt that's going to happen. Well I'll shut up now, appologies for the derail everyone ^^"
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Post by XombieMike on Aug 13, 2015 13:59:09 GMT -6
Would Bloodstained have had a chance without Lords of Shadow 2 failing? I'd like to think so, but I think it's significant. Many CV fans longed for a good Iga style CV, and LoS2 suffering in sales may not only indicate a lack of desire for Konami's direction but help fuel a drive for something IGA could do. If that's the case, our lack of western buying dollars for LoS2 could have long term affects for Konami's western outlook, and could have created the opportunity for Bloodstained.
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Post by JordanJoestar on Aug 13, 2015 16:40:43 GMT -6
I guess it's less "offended" and more "annoyed". Annoyed because words like that tend to only stoke the flames of war between various types of gamers which is really frustrating to see. PC Gamers, Console Gamers, heck, even Mobile Gamers although I loathe mobile games myself and wouldn't touch one. We all share one and the same hobby so why the hell do we spend time fighting and belittling one another? It's just stupid, escpecially considering even at current time and age we are an acceptable target for attacks of non-gamers much too often. Myself I spent most of my life with just a PC but I don't intend to let that limit me. If a game interests me I'll use whatever system necessary to play it, and if it comes on multiple ones I'll pick whichever is most convenient. As for graphics - yeah I'll accept console gamers can be as graphics obsessed as pc gamers, but I still maintain the later are more responsible for pushing what is accepted and not in terms of graphics simply because they can squeeze out more. And I think we pushed graphics too far to fast - even current gen PC graphic cards are starting to have trouble keeping up is it a wonder consoles can't, especially if by the time a new one comes out it's hardware is already outdated? Used to be that high-end graphic settings were something of a bragging right, nowdays people seem to have the mindset that anything below ultra or equivalent is subpar (and call me old fashioned but the 2k/4k screens at 120 fps feel like a bit overkill). I think it'd be good if our graphical march slowed down and paced itself a bit but I doubt that's going to happen. Well I'll shut up now, appologies for the derail everyone ^^" You seem to not understand. I don't want stoke the flames of war between various types of gamers, but I only criticized a part of gamers. I criticized them who ruin game industries with mobile games and many, not all, console players who speak without having knowledge on what they talk about. We are free to play with every sistem we want, but not to do fake information like many fanboys do. I had bad experiences on internet with console fanboys (especially Sony fanboys) who treat you as well as nazis treated jews, only because you have a PC and for them, if you're a PC gamer, automatically you're only interested on graphic detail. This is ridiculous, follow a site for know about new games and read the attack and the idiocy of many peasants, yes peasants, because many console gamers are this. I have some friends who play with consoles and you can talk freely with them about console games and PC games, and for this reason I consider them "gamers". It's sad to do console wars but if there is a thing that I hate is when someone say inacurate things, and not only about gaming... The graphic detail make a game more godible, but yes, plot and gameplay is very important. Isn't true that if you have an awesome graphic you have a poor gameplay. Also, isn't true that current PC graphic cards have problems because, for example, I have a friend with a 2 years old PC (cost: 900€) and he play The Witcher 3 at Ultra detail and 50 - 60 fps. I have a better PC with a 1440p monitor but at the moment I don't have bought The Witcher 3, because I must finish Final Fantasy VIII... not a graphic cards killer. XD If you search on YouTube you can find a video where a PC that cost 450$ have a more stable frame rate than a PS4. Yes, 450$!!! You think that high resolutions and an high frame rate are unuseful but if you start to play games with this high quality you'll not turn back. That's not true that if I have a new graphic card and after 3 months comes out a new one the first become outdated. Maybe with the first you can play at 2K and with the second at 4K, but if you don't have a 4K monitor the second card is a waste of money and power. A graphic card become outdated when can't run the games at the quality that you want but a new graphic card will run games at Ultra level for many years but depending on you, as I said. We wait the new DX12 for a better graphic features and less heavyness; DX11 aren't very good graphic libraries. Technology evolves and if the PC would be a reference platform nowadays we would see better graphic and other interesting features. The hardware is evolved enough but until the console will be the reference plateform we will see a slow evolution of the software at the expence of the harware. That's why DDR4 RAM are unuseful for gaming, because old DDR3 are perfect for actual games and DDR4 are more powerful, but what you do with great power if games don't use it all? The evolution of graphic card is a very good thing not only for gaming but even for science applications. Evolution is progress, progress is improvement; Staticity is outdating, outdating is death. P.S.: I'll shut up too. After this digression I will return to be a common user who speak about Bloodstained.
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Post by ghaleon on Aug 13, 2015 17:27:01 GMT -6
Posting on phone. Cant go into as much detail as Id like.
Mobile games and mobile gamers arent killing games. Ridiculous high budgets in AAA games are killing games. And note I say games, not gaming. Gaming is not dying, hardcore gaming is not dying. Only AAA is dying, and casual games have nothing to do with it. They just happen to be there at the same time AAA is struggling because clueless publishers think games make big money simply by throwing hollywood budgets and cinimatics at it. We have seen them make these mistakes before whe. The 3do and cdi consoles were a thing. They are just dying slower because now that gaming is a much bigger industry with a bigger audience, they arent quite as collossal a flop this time around.
And I dont know what planet you are from joestar, but I only see console war arguments on occasion. Maybe they are more common on 4chan or general console gamefaqs forums or something, but those are the communities, not a significant portion of the console fonsumer base. Not ime not accusing you of saying all, but the fact is those people are a minority, certainly not most.
Also I object to telling people not to talk about things that someone says they dont know about. Who decides what is enough to know or not? How do people learn more about stuff if they cant talk about it? I think you need to be more open minded.
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Post by Astaroth on Aug 15, 2015 12:23:23 GMT -6
my main problem with mobile gaming is the touchscreen, its what keeps me from playing emulators on it for very long when im not home or on my pc, and its a large part of whats keeping me from playing all the square ports on it. if they found a way to make a clip on controller that wasnt huge, a pain to pair up, or stupidly expensive, id play on it more and a bit less on my DS. (that said, i absolutely love touchscreen UIs for menus, but movement is sometimes very frustrating how fiddly it is and anything that requires button mashing, multiple button inputs, shoulder buttons, or precise input is a nightmare)
i have a huge problem with the microtrans games that are designed to vaccuum up your money, so i just dont play them. i have less of a problem with games that are ALL PRETTY NO SUBSTANCE NEXT GEN GRAPHICS FTW BLAAARHGHLGAARGLEGARGLEHAMMER! (developer, console, pc, doesnt matter), so i often either skip them, buy them used after someones gotten bored with it, or wait till it goes on sale on steam, play it till i get bored of it, and then it sits on a shelf till i remember i have it and debate whether to finish it or play something else (this unfortunately happens with rpgs too, but thats more of a "do i have time to play it, not do i want to play it >.<).
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Post by Lelygax on Aug 15, 2015 16:02:21 GMT -6
i have a huge problem with the microtrans games that are designed to vaccuum up your money, so i just dont play them. Its not intrusive like that, but Megaman X for iOS really did have a option to buy upgrades. Remember when Dr. Light said "X, I created you, but business is business. If you want your upgrades you need to pay and I even hid them all in some stages so you wouldn't take them without paying."? Yeah, neither me. The problem is that since people were spending money in casual/simple games, they continued to do that. Then included it in another type of mobile games. Now they are including it in console/PC games too, like Resident Evil: Revelations 2 for example, where you can buy some items if you didn't want to unlock it. Some act even as lives, so if you lose them all, you can't continue playing in a special online mode (unless you pay for more, or wait). Also, Mortal Kombat X and the upcoming Street Fighter V, but atleast in SF its getting better because you will be able to unlock everything that isn't cosmetic by playing, but still with a option to pay. The mentality of people nowadays is letting these corporative guys dictate their rules and sadly I don't think that we can stop it anymore, since they can always turn everything to unlockables with a option to pay for it. This annoys me, even if its a option. Games are meant to make people happy, not suck money after buying it for no plausible reason. In-game should be about merit, not about money. I can even understand this happening in MMOs since this practice was born there, but not in another type of games, that I don't accept. Sorry for the rant guys. lol
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