Post by Masquerade on Jun 26, 2020 15:31:36 GMT -6
Not really aware since I can’t access the BS discord anymore (oops) if the up to date news has specified Iga is really close with the development or Inti is taking a lot of creative liberties. A good bit of this thread is grounded in a lot of speculation however there is something to it, as there were a lot of things from curse as Iga even himself stated that teased things that would be in ritual of the night.
Of course the bosses are the most obvious thing that were teased, but I do remember Gremory’s theme (Silent Howling?) being something we speculated a lot about along with a few areas very loosely imagined. But Bloodstained despite its somewhat shaky release has sold over a million copies which, I don’t care who you are, for an indie that picked up a publisher, that’s a lot of money and success. Assuming Iga wants to continue on with the franchise after the DLC is over and done with, what does Curse of the Moon mean?
And by that, I’m asking is Curse of the Moon just a nice spinoff that can lead to some cool media down the road like a manga series or modest adaptation of some sort, or will it be an evolution to a title with a considerable AAA backing, allowing a much larger team and access to more assets etc.? Down the road in the mid 2020s, do you believe we will see either a Curse of the Moon 3 (or a 3rd Curse of the Moon title with a name and not a numerical title) that’s a full on big budget metroidvania, or is Iga bound for other ventures?
Good to be back. Not nearly as much of an edgelord as I used to be. I’m even an admin and mod of 2 different discords! Hope this’ll spark some nice conversation.
Post by anonthemouse on Jun 26, 2020 18:36:28 GMT -6
I don't think we'll see a AAA Curse of the Moon, no, but more Bloodstained? Definitely. In my mind, CotM has been firmly established as its own retro-styled side series, and I think the publishers agree, since it was definitely a design choice to repeat the four playable characters and Normal/Veteran difficulty split for the sequel. Anything with the Curse of the Moon name on it, I think we can expect to continue in the style and loose continuity of the first two, while anything of a more modern design I think will end up under the umbrella of the main series, whatever that ultimately means. I do believe that there will be more of that main series, though. Ritual of the Night development isn't finished, but I don't think Iga founded Artplay just to produce one game. However, according to Giant Bomb, Bloodstained is their "main focus", and I think he's been pretty clear about seeing Bloodstained as part of a series. Plus, who wouldn't want to build off of success? If the point of Ritual of the Night was to show that there was still interest in the old style of 'vania games that Iga was producing when he was with Konami, well...it did that in spades.
OwloftheNight98: And on the case of Robert, in his defense, the church in that time period set a new standard for self-righteous a**holes, and I say that as Christian.
Jun 28, 2020 0:17:14 GMT -6
purifyweirdshard: As an organization in Iga's games, they've generally been more on the fictional side than historical
Jun 28, 2020 0:28:04 GMT -6
dareka: It's a bit more complicated than that. The church comes off as fictional in pretty much all Japanese games because there's nothing like it over there, so they don't really understand what it is. Their closest reference is 20th Century Imperial Japan.
Jun 28, 2020 3:46:27 GMT -6
purifyweirdshard: Yeah, Iga told me as much in person (about how they don't really understand it etc). It's almost like an interesting mythological thing/hook for character designs and plots.
Jun 28, 2020 16:02:11 GMT -6
purifyweirdshard: I always appreciate seeing it portrayed well though, or at least with people on both sides of it (good religious people and bad religious people)
Jun 28, 2020 16:03:10 GMT -6
dareka: Methinks I'll be doing a thread on the topic soon...
Jun 28, 2020 18:48:40 GMT -6
Redogan: Just saw another trailer for CotM 2. Release date: 2020-July-10. Nice. I know what I'll be doing that day.
Jun 28, 2020 19:08:32 GMT -6
OwloftheNight98: dareka I wouldn't mind such a thread. I, in particular, want to see a religious protagonist- who doesn't lose faith due to disillusionment or "God was evil all along!"- in a fantastical game setting, to see how would they handle the crazy stuff like this.
Jun 28, 2020 20:57:33 GMT -6
OwloftheNight98: AS LONG, as they're written well of course, I refuse to acknowledge half-A'd writing.
Jun 28, 2020 21:00:56 GMT -6
RichterB: While far from perfect, the CV franchise has been pretty decent w/ its idea of embattled Christian holy warrior versus evil personified. It's different from a lot of games in that regard. I realized over the years that's been part of its appeal to me.
Jun 29, 2020 0:14:12 GMT -6
RichterB: Decided to spend a good chunk of time on that fan art I mentioned. Getting close to the coloring phase. As I was composing it, Gebel and Gremory decided to join Miriam and Goofball...and then a Valefar reference snuck itself in when I wasn't looking.
Jun 29, 2020 0:18:03 GMT -6
RichterB: Question: When I'm done with this thing, do I just post it in the fan art section of the forum, or is there someplace I'm supposed to put it to be considered for a future Kickstarter email? (assuming that is still a thing with dev updates.)
Jun 29, 2020 0:40:22 GMT -6
purifyweirdshard: You can post it in the fanart section here. To be considered for an update is something separate, post it to a social media outlet with the #igavania tag
Jun 29, 2020 2:38:56 GMT -6
purifyweirdshard: Also, yes, that was a significant part of the appeal to me for Castlevania as well. I've been hoping to see some of it in Bloodstained. That was what my hope in Dominique was all about.
Jun 29, 2020 2:40:19 GMT -6
RichterB: purifyweirdshard, Thanks for the info. And sorry about Dominique. But there's always Pure Miriam, I guess? I think maybe the Castlevania animated series sort of misses that thematic beat a little bit. I mean, Sypha's no longer related to the Church at all.
Jun 29, 2020 8:36:45 GMT -6