Let's talk about ethics

In speaking about ethical even if unpopular, YS from shenmue 3 is going to offer refunds or platform exchanges, they have even gone to say that they'll change your platform to steam once the exclusivity period is over. A lot of people will be pissed still, but atleast they'll have the choice, here valuable information got denied just so they wouldn't get a pr nightmare.

I hope you realize that won't happen. From a business perspective, you're complaining about a non issue. It's more imperative that they keep to their current promises (publish 13 DLCs, optimize platforms, start their next game, gainfully employ their developers, etc) than to drop everything to appease a small percent of their consumer base.

He’s not saying that the game needing fixed is a non issue, they’re working on that. It’s that request for names in credits is recompense.

The 13 DLCs are mostly the stretch goals, so even that is part of the campaign...

I've counted over 63,000 purchases on the Kickstarter page. Its reasonable to assume there are at least 63,000 people playing this game when we account for the sales after launch. Even if 5,000 unique individuals took to the internet to make their complaints heard, they are still a minority by definition.

Like I said, they're working on the Switch.

If we do some napkin math, 63,000 divided by the number of platforms (PS4, Xbox 1, Switch, PC), we get 15,750. So let's assume that's a rough number of the number of backers for switch. Not only would those 5,000 still be considered a minority, now we have to figure out who exactly backed for a switch version, send out surveys, verify the names meet some rather leniant standards, add the names to the credits. This is assuming they received the go ahead, after discussing who will postpone their tasks to get this done, and whatever else. Next up is a large patch for this and fans now have to sit through another several thousand names in the credits.

Programming large scale projects is an insanely difficult task. Things that sound silly, like fixing one bug and introducing a dozen more, become all too real. I honestly believe we should be nothing short of impressed they managed to make a large game from scratch in a similar amount of time that other games require when they already have most of their assets and plenty of back end code already there.

I can't remember where I saw it on this forum but, another user was awesome enough to address why this might be. In summary, because the Switch is so much more different from the other platforms, porting the game isn't easy and possibly required sending a final build of the game to an external party to get it to work. If that's the case then Iga and his team had little to nothing to do with the state it arrived in.

I'm not trying to defend or justify. This is just my view and opinion.

Most people seem to be enjoying the game. Theres a few people who are outraged who seem to post in multiple places but for the most part people are enjoying Bloodstained.

All i can say is that funding kickstarter is a risk since there isn't even a guarantee that the project will be successful in the end. Its a bit like buying a lottery ticket. If you can't except the risk then kickstarter is not for you.

I found this project to be one of the most transparent and response kickstarter projects to date. The fact that they responded to criticism of the early graphics and updated them is pretty amazing. 

I know your upset with issues you've personally had but frankly no game launch is perfectly delivered. Arguing with satisfied fans isn't going to help you any either besides venting your frustration. And to be frank, getting the game a few weeks late is not a big deal. We've waited several years already, its not a big deal to have to wait a few more weeks. Does it suck? Yes. Does it ruin the game, no. Not even close.

I don't see any ethical violations committed here. They've had some issues shipping some copies on time. Hardly an ethics scandal and certainly nothing worth legal actions. There is no guarantee of getting a physical copy of the game by launch day.

Agreed. I wasn't a Linux/Mac backer, but the way that whole situation was handled was pretty crappy as a whole. Those are the players/backers I truly feel for.

So: let's look at this parts of this series of statements:

The game works "flawlessly" on Linux, with the use of a third-party tool, in an unsupported configuration from the developers (and *despite*, not because of the developers' efforts). It's important to note that Wine also allows a lot of other tools with no Linux support to work as well - this shouldn't be taken as a sign that, say, Microsoft have great Linux support for Office.

The FLAC format music has had some people question if it's actually lossless (there's a thread on the Steam forum where several people claim that analysing some of the files suggests that they're sampled from the MP3s, which would render them being FLAC completely pointless).

Well Linux may work, but I doubt Mac does, and that is after third-party programs being used. That being said, how many people who wanted it on Linux had to change to a different platform that the knew would 100% work? I hope none of them had to buy a new console, only to find out it would have worked on their original choice, thus wasting money to play.