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Post by Masquerade on Jun 15, 2019 17:57:25 GMT -6
You back the game. Pick one of the following reasons.
1. Back because you want the passion project to be developed. 2. Back for the goodies. 3. Back because you just wanna play a damn good game 4. Back because you’re an intellectual and want all 3.
Now keep in mind that per the most recent update, the #2 people are already in the hole because of the printing processing, so they’ll basically have to wait anywhere from an extra 45 to a whole 60 days worth of time before actually getting their whole package for the game.
Now if you back strictly for #3 then cool, you’re probably gonna get it. But you’re also gonna get (if you’re strictly a physical backer) half of what the PC crowd will eventually get on their full physical copy. This means that the PC physical backers that also got a steam key or just purchased a digital game anyway will be the ONLY ones that have a definitive edition of the game. Yes I’m aware of the deadlines and logistics blah blah of the first party publishers like Nintendo and Sony etc. But that doesn’t change the fact that what’s happening is the biggest audience for this game is getting the game at a low frame rate and a week later. And since the game will inevitably sell well, the only on disc/cartridge copies of the entire promised game will be the PC physical backers and a definitive edition of little collectors value.
As someone who’s been a long time Nintendo supporter, one gripe I do have with their company is no matter what, if it’s a pretty popular game, they’re gonna jack the price way the fuck up to $59.99. They did that with an upscaled Hyrule Warriors game that was ported for the THIRD time.
You can tell me all the excuses you want about you’re not making a purchase at a store or whatever way you want to spin it. Fact of the matter is, 505 waited till the very last minute to drop loads of horrible specs and news when the head of PR PROMISED there would only be good news from February on and my hype for this game is totally destroyed. I’ll play it, but I’m definitely going into it with a tremendous bitter taste in my mouth.
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Post by roguedragon05 on Jun 15, 2019 19:01:13 GMT -6
Hope you end up enjoying it, Masquerade I know things like this can spoil the experience but I don't think anyone wanted that for anyone. (I know that intentions don't change results) I personally feel alot of people are losing their enjoyment and faith in project simply because they can't enjoy what the project is, and instead dwell on how they anticipated other things. The "business" aspects of making video games is always something that burns the emotions of fans and there are reasons why companies usually keep such actions to themselves as much as possible, for sure having them laid far more bare then usual in this project has disappointed more then a few including myself now and again. In any event I hope you find enjoyment when you finally get your hands on it. I will add one more number to your list... 5. Backed anticipating making a profit off of the experience I know that there are more than a few of those around, though I can't point out any specifically, but I personally feel that they are some of the most "upset" about the apparent devaluing of their investment, for them I've little sympath to be honest at best they made a business gamble and while they can still make a profit it jsut won't be as much of one.... You play the game you accept the risks. Hope the game is everything you anticipated outside of any disappointments you've already run into and that you do get to enjoy your goodies sooner then later.
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Post by demiurgos on Jun 17, 2019 1:34:31 GMT -6
I backed for physical Vita and Switch copies. I was forced to change platform when the vita was sacked a few months after the slacker backer option ended. I'm now awaiting two switch copies. One of them is EU and the other one JP.
I have no idea if they will be fulfilled together or not, but I do know that I'll have to wait for the japanese version. It's also been said that I might get something extra because I had the good fortune of backing for a japanese copy. Maybe even get a more complete experience on the game card? One could at least hope. That way I would at least get something closer to what I actually backed for, besides the "staggered content solution" that was decided to be left off the physical game after the fact people already put their trust in the project... based on specific wordings. As a shining example of this, the promised backer-only content will also be lost to us eventually.
I wanted something not dependent on certain servers being avaliable in the future, so this may be seen as #6 in our growing list of reasons why people backed this project.
Feel free to spin and diminish my concerns/frustration/disappointment.
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Post by roguedragon05 on Jun 17, 2019 2:24:07 GMT -6
Feel free to spin and diminish my concerns/frustration/disappointment. I'm not sure why anyone would wanna do that... I mean I agree with you so far as I wanted the entire game in perfect form on my disc, but thats not what happened, and it was never a guarantee that it would happen to be honest. I voiced my desires and concerns and on that point we both didn't get what we wanted in the end... still gonna enjoy the game and value my backers edition though.
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Post by devilg11 on Jun 17, 2019 17:37:15 GMT -6
I backed for number 4. As I am a PS4 and Switch JP version backer in Australia, I will have to go to a local shop and grab another PS4 copy on Thursday if I still wish to start playing this week. Can't be funnier.
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Post by demiurgos on Jun 18, 2019 15:31:09 GMT -6
I see what you're saying, devilg11 . I backed for physical Vita and Switch copies. I was forced to change platform when the vita was sacked a few months after the slacker backer option ended. I'm now awaiting two switch copies. One of them is EU and the other one JP. I have no idea if they will be fulfilled together or not, but I do know that I'll have to wait for the japanese version. It's also been said that I might get something extra because I had the good fortune of backing for a japanese copy. Maybe even get a more complete experience on the game card? One could at least hope. That way I would at least get something closer to what I actually backed for, besides the "staggered content solution" that was decided to be left off the physical game after the fact people already put their trust in the project... based on specific wordings. As a shining example of this, the promised backer-only content will also be lost to us eventually. I wanted something not dependent on certain servers being avaliable in the future, so this may be seen as #6 in our growing list of reasons why people backed this project. Feel free to spin and diminish my concerns/frustration/disappointment. Regarding the above, I asked the following more than two weeks ago. Question Angel-Corlux What happens if we backed for a japanese physical copy but reside elsewhere? Will these shipments also be delayed? Will the japanese physical copies include the day one patches on disc/cart? Is it possible to answer my questions now? If my games are shipped separately, I'll likely have to pay custom fees and toll twice. I'm not sure how to go about this... not that I'm left with any options...
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Post by roguedragon05 on Jun 18, 2019 19:23:35 GMT -6
demiurgosIf your getting the Japanese based version then you'll get it along with the rest of the Japanese crowd from my understanding. As far as custom's go I've no idea, I havent heard anyone say they have to pay extra customs yet.
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Post by demiurgos on Jun 19, 2019 0:10:04 GMT -6
Thank you for giving your understanding on the matter, roguedragon05. However, it doesn't help answering any of my questions. That's why I'd like an official reply from a 505 Games representative. Angel-Corlux QuestionHere, let me summarize my questions... I backed for physical Vita and Switch copies. I was forced to change platform when the PS Vita version was sacked a few months after the slacker backer option ended. I'm now awaiting two switch copies. One of them is EU and the other one JP. 1. Will my EU copy be sent separately or will it be shipped together with my JP copy and thus be delayed as well? 2. If all of my backer rewards are shipped from within the EU, there should be no extra customs fees for me. Is this what to expect? 3. Will the japanese physical switch copies include the day one patch, or any of the DLC like the "backer-only" stuff, on the game card? Thank you.
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Post by Angel-Corlux on Jun 19, 2019 10:44:24 GMT -6
Hi there demiurgos -
1. EU copy will be shipped separately, no delay on that one (we recently approved shipping logistics / costs etc.) 2. Not sure about this question tbh, it's more a question for Fangamer since they handle all fulfillment. You can reach out to them at orders@fangamer.com 3. JP physical copies will include all up to date patches, and we're still working on possibly including the DLC for those that are entitled to it, can't promise that right now
Hope that helps answer your questions
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Post by demiurgos on Jun 20, 2019 2:24:02 GMT -6
I'm happy to have my questions answered. It feels much better now. Thank you for the reply, Angel-Corlux !
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