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Post by miraihi on Jun 11, 2019 3:42:59 GMT -6
strange world? Make that “strange country”. That double standard with violence vs sex is very much an American thing. Europe is much more open towards sex. Hell, for the longest time it was super difficult to sell games with any sort of violence in Germany until relatively recent. That’s why NES games like Contra and N64 games like Turok had to change the enemies to robots and remove any trace of blood if they wanted to be allowed in store shelves. And if you think about it a regular person is way way way more probable to experience sex in their lives than it is to kill another human in their lifetimes. Why America sees killing in media easier to swallow than a pair of exposed nipples is too complicated a discussion for me to try and address here but suffice to say yes, it is bullshit. PS: i remember I was watching a few years ago some sort of crime/forensic documentary show on either Discovery Channel or TLC or one of those where they were straight up showing dismembered bodies and detached extremities decaying and shit in all their gory glory but if one of those bodies happened to be female lo and behold the blurry dot on screen to censor the nipples on the torsos. I found that both hilarious and depressing. Feels like politicians want to desensitize people to extreme violence, what's kinda awful.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 8:19:21 GMT -6
What I meant was that I only ever hear of it being a problem when it's a japanese made video game, people reee about "think of the children", while ignoring that the nudity in GoT is far worse than anything little Jimmy will see in Devil May Cry 5.
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Post by Brainiac on Jun 11, 2019 8:53:58 GMT -6
What I meant was that I only ever hear of it being a problem when it's a japanese made video game, people reee about "think of the children", while ignoring that the nudity in GoT is far worse than anything little Jimmy will see in Devil May Cry 5. Because Game of Thrones is HBO which is for adults while games are for children. ALL games. Just like ALL cartoons.
General cultural perception can be quite dumb.
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Post by Mr. Welldone on Jun 11, 2019 8:54:44 GMT -6
Boobs, butt, or not, I'm excited as hell to play this next week.
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Post by gunlord500 on Jun 11, 2019 9:45:45 GMT -6
Because Game of Thrones is HBO which is for adults while games are for children. ALL games. Just like ALL cartoons.
General cultural perception can be quite dumb.
To be fair B, while I'd say Bloodstained is definitely for mature folks, I believe the game is explicitly aiming for a T rating, which influences how people will expect the level of both sex and violence to be. But in any case, I don't think we have to worry too much about that. There may be some naked statues and stuff as in the old 'Vanias, but not much more than that, and there may be things like the impaled Sabnock bleeding in the castle entrance, but not too much more than that. I think that should give the game a gothic atmosphere without alienating too many folks
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Post by Brainiac on Jun 11, 2019 9:54:14 GMT -6
Exactly, gunlord500 . I was referring to general cultural perception of what games are, particularly among older generations. It's getting better, thankfully. But change is slow.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 11:26:01 GMT -6
What I meant was that I only ever hear of it being a problem when it's a japanese made video game, people reee about "think of the children", while ignoring that the nudity in GoT is far worse than anything little Jimmy will see in Devil May Cry 5. Because Game of Thrones is HBO which is for adults while games are for children. ALL games. Just like ALL cartoons.
General cultural perception can be quite dumb.
I just think it's really strange that my friends down in D building have no problem letting their 13 year old watch GoT (they are with him when they do) But won't let the kid play Mortal Kombat or Devil May Cry 5.
Oh well, it's not my kid, as strange as that situation is.
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Post by Brainiac on Jun 11, 2019 11:39:48 GMT -6
I just think it's really strange that my friends down in D building have no problem letting their 13 year old watch GoT (they are with him when they do) But won't let the kid play Mortal Kombat or Devil May Cry 5.
At a guess...there's the difference between passive observation and active participation. Plus the parents actually WANT to watch GoT; they might not care for MK or DMC.
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Post by purifyweirdshard on Jun 11, 2019 11:41:38 GMT -6
It's a normal, cultural thing, and a lapse of general understanding, like Brainiac was saying (and he posted again while I was typing this). Many people in the generations older than ours still either think that video games are Atari graphics, or they just completely write them all off as TOO graphic because they don't have the experience or want to do any research and remain ignorant. "People fear what they do not understand", as the paraphrased X-men moral goes. I'd wager both types above are more common than parents who will actually try to figure out what a game is/isn't all about, while a TV show everyone in the world is talking about is much more of a known quantity. GoT is open and bare for the public at large to understand it, it's the biggest TV show of modern times I'd say.
Conversely, DMC5 is...well, what could they know about it? Probably never even heard Devil Trigger. Poor souls.
Anyway, on to the main topic
*takes shirt off* here we go. Looking at an instant classic now.
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Post by Mr. Welldone on Jun 11, 2019 11:49:10 GMT -6
Anyway, on to the main topic *takes shirt off* here we go. Looking at an instant classic now.
Shirts off for IGA.
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Post by purifyweirdshard on Jun 11, 2019 11:52:02 GMT -6
Haha but I'm actually at work so--
you know what, screw it, FOR IGAAAAAAAA
edit: Hey good news guys, I can be at the forum full time now.
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Post by Mr. Welldone on Jun 11, 2019 12:05:55 GMT -6
Haha but I'm actually at work so-- you know what, screw it, FOR IGAAAAAAAA edit: Hey good news guys, I can be at the forum full time now. Don't look at them. Look here. Yes. Where your victory is.
We understand you. Igavania is back.
Here's some Nair. Chest hair is disrespect to The IGA.
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Post by Brainiac on Jun 11, 2019 13:29:54 GMT -6
Well, this is almost as fun as you two at each others' throats over Dominique vs Alfred.
<makes popcorn once again>
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 13:42:47 GMT -6
Haha but I'm actually at work so-- you know what, screw it, FOR IGAAAAAAAA edit: Hey good news guys, I can be at the forum full time now. Outside of the being at work example, you men are lucky. if I take my shirt off and go walking around, I'll get arrested.... Double standards.
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Post by Mr. Welldone on Jun 11, 2019 13:55:07 GMT -6
Haha but I'm actually at work so-- you know what, screw it, FOR IGAAAAAAAA edit: Hey good news guys, I can be at the forum full time now. Outside of the being at work example, you men are lucky. if I take my shirt off and go walking around, I'll get arrested.... Double standards.
One of my friends who's a NSFW comic artist got around this by photoshopping men's nipples on women so he could post them on Facebook.
Holy shit, that's still fucking funny.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 14:04:31 GMT -6
Outside of the being at work example, you men are lucky. if I take my shirt off and go walking around, I'll get arrested.... Double standards.
One of my friends who's a NSFW comic artist got around this by photoshopping men's nipples on women so he could post them on Facebook.
Holy shit, that's still fucking funny.
LOL! Well ok, sometimes late in the evening and at night I can, because living in the country makes it easier, but during the day? Fuck that.
Indoors, I usually wear less than what is needed because I live on the top floor. Unless people are going to learn to climb that mountain out back, I don't have anything to really worry about.
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Post by OwloftheNight98 on Jun 11, 2019 15:47:42 GMT -6
Haha but I'm actually at work so-- you know what, screw it, FOR IGAAAAAAAA edit: Hey good news guys, I can be at the forum full time now. *Rips of feathers* Wait I'm an owl, I did not think this through.
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Post by Time 4 Tea on Jun 11, 2019 16:12:57 GMT -6
Haha but I'm actually at work so-- you know what, screw it, FOR IGAAAAAAAA edit: Hey good news guys, I can be at the forum full time now. Outside of the being at work example, you men are lucky. if I take my shirt off and go walking around, I'll get arrested.... Double standards.
Well it *is* legal here in Canada you might be accused of causing several car accidents .
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Post by Enkeria on Jun 11, 2019 16:32:26 GMT -6
Boobs, butt, or not, I'm excited as hell to play this next week. Just pixels dood. Just pixels. Well shaped ones.
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Post by OwloftheNight98 on Jun 11, 2019 19:54:16 GMT -6
One of my friends who's a NSFW comic artist got around this by photoshopping men's nipples on women so he could post them on Facebook.
Holy shit, that's still fucking funny.
LOL! Well ok, sometimes late in the evening and at night I can, because living in the country makes it easier, but during the day? Fuck that.
Indoors, I usually wear less than what is needed because I live on the top floor. Unless people are going to learn to climb that mountain out back, I don't have anything to really worry about.
Well no offense meant by this but, considering how obnoxious and in-your-face some people can be with their thirst, I doubt that you would want to attract any "unwanted attention" or leering stares, though that being said, yeah, I understand the double standard statement. I'm not trying to say anything sexist or offensive it's just that, in spite of developing social morals, we still have perverted crotchbrains who would thirst first and think later.
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