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Post by estebant on Jun 29, 2018 13:33:32 GMT -6
Am I the only one who noticed the demo looking a whole lot more dull than the video previews we saw in the past? The zangetsu fight looks great here. It looks dull and boring in the demo. I wish I had screenshots to compare but I haven't gotten the chance to download the demo yet. This one looks so good! Not so much in the demo... This last one is the one that made me notice the differences. I seriously hope what we saw in the demo isn't what we actually get... Edit: Here are some (terrible quaility) screenshots showing the decline in quality over time. Jan 2016 Mockup June 2017 E3 Gematsu June 2018 Beta Demo We can totally disregard the 2016 one because it was just a mockup. But I think we deserve an explanation for the current state.
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Post by CastleDan on Jun 29, 2018 13:40:11 GMT -6
It looks like they made everything brighter so you notice the color more but there's gotta be a way to increase the color but have that darker look.
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Post by lovelydumpling on Jun 29, 2018 13:41:40 GMT -6
Wow, these comparisons hurt me. Considering we were talking about this before, what do you think CastleDan ? Edit: RIP I got stealthed. It looks like they made everything brighter so you notice the color more but there's gotta be a way to increase the color but have that darker look. If anything the older ones look more colorful to me. It seems like they made everything grey in the demo. All the reds and purples and some of the gold seems to be missing. And the windows in the background are all gone.
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Post by estebant on Jun 29, 2018 13:45:06 GMT -6
I know it's too much to ask... but will someone please get screenshots from the demo to compare. It would take me days to get any myself.
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Post by estebant on Jun 29, 2018 14:03:35 GMT -6
I know it's too much to ask... but will someone please get screenshots from the demo to compare. It would take me days to get any myself. Got you covered, uploading full 4K uncompressed screenshots right now, will edit this post in a minute. Thank you so much!
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Post by Fuchigane on Jun 29, 2018 14:12:49 GMT -6
Ciel How you got the SS in 4k? As far as I tried, the demo only runs at 2560x1440 at best.
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Post by Ciel on Jun 29, 2018 14:16:04 GMT -6
Ciel How you got the SS in 4k? As far as I tried, the demo only runs at 2560x1440 at best. I used Virtual Super Resolution of my RX 480. If you have an AMD card pre-Polaris, I think you're limited to 1440p, at least I was with my old HD 7950. Don't know how it is for nvidia cards though, maybe they have some kind of limit too.
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Post by Fuchigane on Jun 29, 2018 14:19:06 GMT -6
Ciel How you got the SS in 4k? As far as I tried, the demo only runs at 2560x1440 at best. I used Virtual Super Resolution of my RX 480. If you have an AMD card pre-Polaris, I think you're limited to 1440p, at least I was with my old HD 7950. Don't know how it is for nvidia cards though, maybe they have some kind of limit too. I see, I'll have to find out a way then. I have a 3440x1440p monitor, but the game stretches like hell in Full Screen. Thanks for the help.
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Post by Angel-Corlux on Jun 29, 2018 14:48:44 GMT -6
Hey Estebant, happy to take a look and chime in but it would be a great help if we could get those screenshots in not a 4k uncompressed link, I don't seem to be able to open even a single image on its own.
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Post by purifyweirdshard on Jun 29, 2018 14:49:28 GMT -6
It looks like they made everything brighter so you notice the color more but there's gotta be a way to increase the color but have that darker look. This definitely looks related to your lighting/color issues, a symptom of the same decision or direction this went in. I'm curious too. Wouldn't hurt to put up your screen shots again if you want? edit: Angel, I think what they're talking about is apparent enough from Dev update 9's video. I had been under the assumption that the Zangetsu fight was in a completely different room, but I think it's the same one with just completely different lighting For the record, yeah, I believe I prefer myself how it previously looked in both this example and castledan's famous comparisons. The color, darker tones and fog looked great, but the current one looks good too to me. It's probably some kind of in-game consideration for the player to follow the visuals properly, but I really don't know. I'd prefer less bright greys in these certain spots, but there are a nice share of good looking areas.
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Post by estebant on Jun 29, 2018 14:57:30 GMT -6
I haven't been able to download the demo. But I feel like these crappy youtube screenshots get the point across. The new look is hideous. Clearly something happened between last years e3 and now.
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Post by Ciel on Jun 29, 2018 14:57:38 GMT -6
Hey Estebant, happy to take a look and chime in but it would be a great help if we could get those screenshots in not a 4k uncompressed link, I don't seem to be able to open even a single image on its own.
Ciel Well shit, I uploaded on Postimage, here is the link for the gallery: postimg.cc/gallery/20q6xi80e/ . There's a button to download the original image, so use that. Imgur is not that good because it applies a rather bad compression algorithm, so I tend to use alternatives. Edit: whatever, here is an imgur link: imgur.com/a/l4fFD6f
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Post by Dengojin on Jun 29, 2018 15:09:13 GMT -6
Looks different, downgraded? nope!
Will post a comprasion screenshots later on
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Post by purifyweirdshard on Jun 29, 2018 15:09:17 GMT -6
I haven't been able to download the demo. But I feel like these crappy youtube screenshots get the point across. The new look is hideous. Clearly something happened between last years e3 and now. Well going back further man, it used to look like this: Granted the design of the room itself has changed now, the colors were amazing. Miriam herself looked better in these old shots than she currently does. The thing is, I don't know if this still image is her "model" or what they ended up using. (open this image in a new tab, it's beautiful) Next: imgur.com/Pfdx797Click that link and zoom in - I've not seen Miriam that bright and nice looking since. Compared to and They are not quite the same. My suspicion is that the original model wasn't rigged for mouth movement, for one thing.
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Post by Ciel on Jun 29, 2018 15:13:00 GMT -6
I haven't been able to download the demo. But I feel like these crappy youtube screenshots get the point across. The new look is hideous. Clearly something happened between last years e3 and now. Well going back further man, it used to look like this: *img* Granted the design of the room itself has changed now, the colors were amazing. And Miriam herself looked better in these old shots than she currently does. The thing is, I don't know if this still image is her "model" or what they ended up using. *img* Compared to *img* and They are not quite the same. Man, I really miss the old backgrounds, they were so colorful and vivid. The new entrance has a problem of using way TOO much of the same color (that greyish tone), which in turn makes everything bland and lifeless.
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Post by estebant on Jun 29, 2018 15:13:21 GMT -6
Looks different, downgraded? nope! Will post a comprasion screenshots later on Please do. Get the underside of the bridge where the perspective rotates and the zanguetsu battle arena. We have old Gematsu videos of those to compare. How can you look at those gold pillars and say they're not downgraded?
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Post by Dengojin on Jun 29, 2018 15:32:37 GMT -6
Yep, I can also prove that it only look different due to the lightning settings they're using now. The room used to be dark and now it has lightning everywhere, resulting some areas to look very different and washed out. I will have to agree that the room previously looked better, but that is not necessarily a graphical "downgrade" it's not as if they went there and changed the textures to make them look worse, just the lightning could use some tweaking. Overall, the other areas look better, Galleon, Village and even the under village place Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2018 15:35:36 GMT -6
I also noticed the screenshots in the tutorial splashes in the game looked sharper and better rendered than the game itself.
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