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Post by CastleDan on Jul 13, 2015 10:31:25 GMT -6
I honestly would love a second castle.
1. It's not exactly like SOTN because it's a different castle.
2. It extends the playtime by a lot since it's the whole castle.
3. Different enemies usually inhabit it which up the difficulty and different bosses.
4. It's fun seeing the layout in reverse.
We've had many extra locations post game since SOTN but we've n ever had a return of the inverse castle. I think it'd be great for a comeback. However, maybe they can somehow make it their own? An inverted Stained glass version of it? Something unique to set it apart.
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Post by Leon on Jul 13, 2015 10:31:30 GMT -6
I tried to see what 1600 rooms would look like. Note that this is a 81*81 picture featuring 1600 rooms separated by lines (which might make it somewhat looking bigger), all next to each other, all only 1 pixel long. Zoom-in for a better look. Now don't forget they'll arrange them nicely to form a castle, and the rooms won't be 1 pixel long on the map.  (I previously made a huge mathematical mistake which I hope nobody saw, the shame. I hope I didn't mess up this time...) |
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Post by Galamoth on Jul 13, 2015 11:50:11 GMT -6
I honestly would love a second castle. 1. It's not exactly like SOTN because it's a different castle. 2. It extends the playtime by a lot since it's the whole castle. 3. Different enemies usually inhabit it which up the difficulty and different bosses. 4. It's fun seeing the layout in reverse. We've had many extra locations post game since SOTN but we've n ever had a return of the inverse castle. I think it'd be great for a comeback. However, maybe they can somehow make it their own? An inverted Stained glass version of it? Something unique to set it apart.They could even try just an Upside-Down Castle (just flipped vertically; not upside-down and backwards like SotN's Inverted Castle) with very different designs and aesthetic feels to each new section of it. ^ Though I'd rather the possible 2nd Castle still be right-side up in terms of layout. I'm still personally a fan of the idea of the 2nd Castle being the "reflection" seen in the body of water in this concept art image: Gebel's Castle Concept |
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Post by 緋月エリ on Jul 13, 2015 13:12:30 GMT -6
I honestly would love a second castle. 1. It's not exactly like SOTN because it's a different castle. 2. It extends the playtime by a lot since it's the whole castle. 3. Different enemies usually inhabit it which up the difficulty and different bosses. 4. It's fun seeing the layout in reverse. We've had many extra locations post game since SOTN but we've n ever had a return of the inverse castle. I think it'd be great for a comeback. However, maybe they can somehow make it their own? An inverted Stained glass version of it? Something unique to set it apart.They could even try just an Upside-Down Castle (just flipped vertically; not upside-down and backwards, like SotN's Inverted Castle) with very different designs and aesthetic feels to each new section of it. ^ Though I'd rather the possible 2nd Castle still be right-side up in terms of layout. I'm still personally a fan of the idea of the 2nd Castle being the "reflection" seen in the body of water in this concept art image: Gebel's Castle ConceptI love both the inverted Stained Glass castle and Reflected Castle idea!! Mashup, anyone? Bloodstained's castle and secret second castles will be very interesting, seeing as the Rouge-like Dungeon stretch goal is met. |
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Post by Galamoth on Jul 13, 2015 13:31:02 GMT -6
They could even try just an Upside-Down Castle (just flipped vertically; not upside-down and backwards, like SotN's Inverted Castle) with very different designs and aesthetic feels to each new section of it. ^ Though I'd rather the possible 2nd Castle still be right-side up in terms of layout. I'm still personally a fan of the idea of the 2nd Castle being the "reflection" seen in the body of water in this concept art image: Gebel's Castle ConceptI love both the inverted Stained Glass castle and Reflected Castle idea!! Mashup, anyone? Bloodstained's castle and secret second castles will be very interesting, seeing as the Rouge-like Dungeon stretch goal is met. Oh, I certainly hope that Ben Judd, IGA, or other staff-members of the development team takes a look at this thread. I do want them to take the "Reflected Castle" idea into consideration, even though they're most likely not going to include it in the base game before it's first released. (Probably a better idea to wait until after the game is finished, and produce this new Castle as DLC) |
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Post by 緋月エリ on Jul 13, 2015 13:50:39 GMT -6
I love both the inverted Stained Glass castle and Reflected Castle idea!! Mashup, anyone? Bloodstained's castle and secret second castles will be very interesting, seeing as the Rouge-like Dungeon stretch goal is met. Oh, I certainly hope that Ben Judd, IGA, or other staff-member of the development team takes a look at this thread. I do want them to take the "Reflected Castle" idea into consideration, even though they're most likely not going to include it in the base game before it's first released. (Probably a better idea to wait until after the game is finished, and produce this new Castle as DLC) I love the DLC idea! It will give the dev. team more time to create new content for the new castle map and maybe even new BGM for it, also new areas for the boss only parts of the castle for Boss Revenge mode. I personally would love to see about 1/3 of the total 1600 rooms as boss only areas. So maybe 533 + 1600 rooms on Boss Revenge..? This also leads to another question... would Rogue-like dungeons be applied for Boss Revenge? |
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Post by Arcueid Brunestud on Jul 13, 2015 14:08:25 GMT -6
I thought after reaching the stretch goal of "Iga's Biggest Castle Yet", the castle would easily surpass anything shown in past Igavania games. And that castle would be doubled with an inverted/alternate/upside-down/etc castle. Are we really only limited to 1600 rooms?
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Post by Galamoth on Jul 13, 2015 14:09:44 GMT -6
I thought after reaching the stretch goal of "Iga's Biggest Castle Yet", the castle would easily surpass anything shown in past Igavania games. And that castle would be doubled with an inverted/alternate/upside-down/etc castle. Are we really only limited to 1600 rooms? Who knows? Since the team is still in a state of planning...1600 is probably the minimum number of planned total Rooms. We're probably going to be limited to just the one 1600+ room Castle in the beginning, after release. I'd rather the team do the 2nd Castle as DLC.  |
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Post by Ravenspear on Jul 13, 2015 14:11:02 GMT -6
I thought after reaching the stretch goal of "Iga's Biggest Castle Yet", the castle would easily surpass anything shown in past Igavania games. And that castle would be doubled with an inverted/alternate/upside-down/etc castle. Are we really only limited to 1600 rooms? Who knows? Since the team is still in a state of planning...1600 is probably the minimum number of planned total Rooms. actually 1601 "that this will be my biggest game, with over 1600 rooms, and I start thinking… we may need MORE enemies to really fill them up." |
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Post by Galamoth on Jul 13, 2015 14:12:37 GMT -6
Who knows? Since the team is still in a state of planning...1600 is probably the minimum number of planned total Rooms. actually 1601 "that this will be my biggest game, with over 1600 rooms, and I start thinking… we may need MORE enemies to really fill them up." Almost forgot about that quote...I was rounding down.  1601+ Rooms it is, for just the one Castle so far. |
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Post by Ciel on Jul 13, 2015 14:14:28 GMT -6
It will depend on the quality and size of the rooms, but I think it's good enough.
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Post by Cale on Jul 13, 2015 15:48:07 GMT -6
1600 rooms for regular castle, then a ton more for the secret castle ^_~
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Post by crocodile on Jul 13, 2015 21:53:01 GMT -6
This game will have the largest castle in an Igavania. 1600 is fewer that both castles of SOTN combined or conversely, 800 is smaller than either caste in SOTN individually. That means for the statement "IGA's largest castle" to remain true, 1600 rooms has to be the size of one castle. If there is a second castle, demon realm, whatever, it will be in addition to the 1600 room number given. However the smartest thing to assume that there is only one castle with 1600 rooms (which should be PLENTY especially since I expect there to be more diversity in the castle interior compared to past IGAvanias) as 1600+ rooms sounds like an insane amount of work.
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Post by gunlord500 on Jul 13, 2015 23:00:32 GMT -6
This game will have the largest castle in an Igavania. 1600 is fewer that both castles of SOTN combined or conversely, 800 is smaller than either caste in SOTN individually. That means for the statement "IGA's largest castle" to remain true, 1600 rooms has to be the size of one castle. If there is a second castle, demon realm, whatever, it will be in addition to the 1600 room number given. However the smartest thing to assume that there is only one castle with 1600 rooms (which should be PLENTY especially since I expect there to be more diversity in the castle interior compared to past IGAvanias) as 1600+ rooms sounds like an insane amount of work. I think he said "at least" 1600 rooms, so perhaps the actual number will be closer to 1800 or even 2000 if we're lucky. How many rooms did SoTN have total? |
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Post by kdfukuyama on Jul 14, 2015 4:29:01 GMT -6
This game will have the largest castle in an Igavania. 1600 is fewer that both castles of SOTN combined or conversely, 800 is smaller than either caste in SOTN individually. That means for the statement "IGA's largest castle" to remain true, 1600 rooms has to be the size of one castle. If there is a second castle, demon realm, whatever, it will be in addition to the 1600 room number given. However the smartest thing to assume that there is only one castle with 1600 rooms (which should be PLENTY especially since I expect there to be more diversity in the castle interior compared to past IGAvanias) as 1600+ rooms sounds like an insane amount of work. I think he said "at least" 1600 rooms, so perhaps the actual number will be closer to 1800 or even 2000 if we're lucky. How many rooms did SoTN have total? Correct, Iga-san said in the Update 28 that "this will be my biggest game, with over 1600 rooms". SoTN has 942 rooms in the regular castle and 948 in the inverted castle, in a total of 1980 rooms. |
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Post by ChucklesTheJester on Jul 14, 2015 6:55:02 GMT -6
Correct, Iga-san said in the Update 28 that "this will be my biggest game, with over 1600 rooms". SoTN has 942 rooms in the regular castle and 948 in the inverted castle, in a total of 1980 rooms. It's like you guys don't know marketing talk.  When something is described as "over" or "more than", it's always closer to the number stated, just a little higher. My attempt at guessing at the actual final number of rooms in Bloodstained is 1648. We can count them once the game is out.  |
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Post by kdfukuyama on Jul 14, 2015 8:39:51 GMT -6
Correct, Iga-san said in the Update 28 that "this will be my biggest game, with over 1600 rooms". SoTN has 942 rooms in the regular castle and 948 in the inverted castle, in a total of 1980 rooms. It's like you guys don't know marketing talk. When something is described as "over" or "more than", it's always closer to the number stated, just a little higher. My attempt at guessing at the actual final number of rooms in Bloodstained is 1648. We can count them once the game is out. Well, when I said "correct", it was about gunlord500 ""at least" 1600 rooms", not about the castle having 1800 or 2000 rooms  Actually, I think it will be something between 1600 and 1699. Otherwise, it would be "over 1700"... and so on. However, who knows? Iga Team can put 2000 rooms in the end. The only thing we officially know is that it will be more than 1600 rooms. |
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Post by Galamoth on Jul 14, 2015 8:45:08 GMT -6
Between 1601-1699 Rooms, or 1600+ Rooms as I'll call it for now.
The main Castle needs that much...so that the possible DLC 2nd Castle could have even more (though it doesn't need to have many more).
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Post by Motoko on Jul 14, 2015 9:27:07 GMT -6
It's become clear to me about the "final" number of rooms....
It's OVER 9000!
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Seriously though, could you imagine a castle with that many rooms? ⊙_⊙
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Post by Leon on Jul 14, 2015 9:32:22 GMT -6
Even better, have a look at this "castle" with 2.560.000 rooms! (You have to zoom-in a lot)  |
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