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Post by Dengojin on May 20, 2017 21:43:50 GMT -6
He looks really amazing!
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Post by CastleDan on May 20, 2017 21:56:38 GMT -6
Really awesome. Love his pose, and the design is awesome. Always thought he'd make a cool playable character and I imagine he will be one.
2 hours in ....they start talking about it.
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Post by akuwa on May 20, 2017 22:06:29 GMT -6
looks like a great character and I can see him fitting into the story pretty well to make things more interesting. don't think he would fit in as a playable character though, the way Iga described him it sounded like he would be very anti magic/all things demonic, meaning I don't think the whole shard thing, or using demonic ability theme would work, would also feel a bit out of place having him use some weapon types. After Dominique I can't think of a 3rd character I would really want as playable, I hope more are introduced soon.
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Post by CastleDan on May 20, 2017 22:07:19 GMT -6
looks like a great character and I can see him fitting into the story pretty well to make things more interesting. don't think he would fit in as a playable character though, the way Iga described him it sounded like he would be very anti magic/all things demonic, meaning I don't think the whole shard thing, or using demonic ability theme would work, would also feel a bit out of place having him use some weapon types. After Dominique I can't think of a 3rd character I would really want as playable, I hope more are introduced soon. I think he's a shoe in for the second playable character. They've clearly developed a very different play-style for him for a reason. He's a Julius Belmont to the Soma Cruz of Aria and Dawn or Richter to Alucard in SOTN. Did they use the same gameplay systems as the main characters of their respective games? Not at all. So it wouldn't be different here most likely. They typically make the second playable character a different style of play.
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Post by akuwa on May 20, 2017 22:49:44 GMT -6
well I do like the idea of having at least 1 of the 3 playable characters being a male, and he probably would fit the role better than Alfred. Just don't see what your saying about second playable character, Dominique being the top voted pick so far should make her 2ed, so Zangetsu would be 3rd
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Post by Goobsausage on May 20, 2017 23:20:02 GMT -6
I like the cool demon head on the back of Zengetsu's coat. Reminds me of something a motorcycle gang would have as their logo.
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Post by XombieMike on May 20, 2017 23:21:38 GMT -6
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Post by CastleDan on May 20, 2017 23:33:04 GMT -6
well I do like the idea of having at least 1 of the 3 playable characters being a male, and he probably would fit the role better than Alfred. Just don't see what your saying about second playable character, Dominique being the top voted pick so far should make her 2ed, so Zangetsu would be 3rd What does it matter what place they are? A playable character is a playable character. One being 2nd or 3rd mean much of anything. Dominique being a more popular design doesn't mean the dev wil scrap what they came up with to do it just like fans want. They announced this character months ago he's also the character that's getting more of a focus of the new ones, and if he's a playable character he's most likely one that was developed first. So it makes sense that he might be the 2nd character, not that it matters at all. As I said, what does it matter who is 2nd or 3rd? They still aren't as important as Miriam's story. The only character that truly matters is Miriam. As IGA said it's the main story that they're truly putting their heart and soul into, as much as he likes the extra stuff that's the main focus. So arguing about who will be the first extra character mode and who will be the second seems not so important lol
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Post by purifyweirdshard on May 20, 2017 23:59:26 GMT -6
looks like a great character and I can see him fitting into the story pretty well to make things more interesting. don't think he would fit in as a playable character though, the way Iga described him it sounded like he would be very anti magic/all things demonic, meaning I don't think the whole shard thing, or using demonic ability theme would work, would also feel a bit out of place having him use some weapon types. After Dominique I can't think of a 3rd character I would really want as playable, I hope more are introduced soon. dastlecan touched on some of this already, but...I'm not sure what you mean by some of this here. Extra playable characters in IGA's games never have the same systems and playstyles as the main character. He wouldn't use shards, and neither would Dominique if she was playable. He likely wouldn't have any other equippable weapon period, just his katana, which would likely have different moves/power-ups, or just a set of abilities that use a system separate from Miriam's (i.e. Alucard-style spells). What do you mean about her being the most voted character? If you mean those thread polls, that was just between her, Alfred and Anne, which aren't all that strong as far as competition lol. The forum polls also, while they can give a general idea of things, don't really mean all that much in the grand scheme of things. There's too much we don't know. All that said, I want Dominique to be playable too, but it's always been well-assumed Zangetsu would be one of the character choices. His anti-demonic stance makes him perfect to tell another side of the story. If he isn't a playable choice, I think he'll appear occasionally as a rival battle in the game, such as how Soma has to fight Julius, Hector against Trevor, etc.
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Post by crocodile on May 21, 2017 0:20:06 GMT -6
Thanks for posting this Dengojin LOL at the demon design on the back of his jacket With BitSummit this weekend, I thought it was likely IGA et al would have a presentation of some sort but given that nobody (like Mana ) said to keep an eye on it, I figured there wouldn't be new info. I guess I was wrong. I'll look through the archives. I wonder if this is something that will be talked in the next update but they didn't want to put it up until after BitSummit to not spoil their presentation.
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Post by demiurgos on May 21, 2017 0:31:30 GMT -6
Looks like something out of SoulCalibur... and I love it!
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Post by gunlord500 on May 21, 2017 0:33:18 GMT -6
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Post by Pure Miriam on May 21, 2017 2:13:59 GMT -6
FIRST OF ALL, i watched IGA's part at Bitsummit livestream, you can see it here as CastleDan said, at 2:12:00 onwards. And just...look at this Well, now that i showed that, i want to talk about what they talked, not only Zangetsu's 3D model. So, let's get into it: After IGA shows some goods that fangamer is going to be selling (like a t-shirt and stickers and such) they start talking about the game and specially Zangetsu. WHY IS THERE A SAMURAI IN A GOTHIC HORROR GAME?
Ben asks this question, and they start talking about the game. As IGA says that, the game happens in 18th century, England, right at the industrial revolution. 10 years ago, demons showed up and such. And that has absolutely nothing to do with a Samurai or any japanese theme. So, they start to explain what Zangetsu is doing in the game. IGA says that Zangetsu despises all demonic things. If he feels there is a demon nearby, he feels it is his duty, his life objective, to destroy it. When the demons showed up and started to attack years ago, Zangetsu lost a beloved friend, as well as his right arm in the attack. HOW ZANGETSU WAS CREATED?
IGA then says that when you are creating a game that is a sequel from previous ones, you don't really need a large cast of characters, because you already have a base to work on. But with a totally new game / franchise, you need more characters ot add mystery and other elements to the game. IGA gives as a example, the fact that, MAYBE, the bad guy is not who we think he is, and maybe there is something else pulling the strings. So, IGA felt the need to create more characters, instead of the basic three of the kickstarter (the heroine, the supporter and the villian) to fill up more roles. IGA also says that, when they were drawing and creating ideas for different backgrounds for the game, one of them was a Japanese classic temple setting. And the game's director (IGA is the producer) said "You know what? We never had a japanese character in any of our games". And IGA responded "Yeah...we never had any japanese character in our games. That is kinda of strange". And then, they look at each other and said "Well, let's put a japanese character in one of our games!". And, as IGA says, Zangetsu creation is nothing special, they kinda just wanted more characters and wanted to put a japanese character because no Igavania games ever had one. He also said that, when you are creating a game, you may have high-level ideas, plot points and such and sometimes, what you want to do doesn't fit at all. But, when he was thinking about it, IGA realized that having a samurai in the game, actually does fit with a lot of plot-twists he had in mind. It was a happy coincidence because he didn't really planned to add Zangetsu from the start, so, the fact that he fits with what he planned is, as IGA says, almost that "the powers that be" wanted. VOICE RECORDING AND 3D MODEL
IGA also said that they almost finished the japanese voice recording. They can't reveal who the actors are, but he can say that Zangetsu's voice actor is cool and fits perfectly into his role. And he said that during kickstarter, they planned to do something with IGA (i think they are talking about IGA's being a boss, the video had a cut at this point) and he said that he "heard the rumor that his part in the voice acting was finished as well" (probably making a joke, since it is kinda obvious that IGA will dub his own boss). And then, they show up Zangetsu 3D model and talk about it. Part of what they said got cut for unknown reasons, so, we couldn't see much of it.UPDATE: thanks to Yän 's link, i was able to see the rest of it. So, in the end, they do some jokes with IGA being dressed as a Samurai, while wearing a cowboy hat. CLOSING COMMENTS
I really loved Zangetsu's 3D model. He looks so badass, manly and powerful. Great. But actually, i really got interested in the few bits about Zangetsu's backstory. So, he lost a beloved friend and his arm at the demon attack (i think he lost one eye as well, right?). And that made him despide demons in a really hateful level. All that make me think that Zangetsu will be a boss in the game. He will be inside the castle slaying demons AND he will fight Miriam, because anything related to demons must be destroyed. That is his mindset. It is also REALLY suspicious what IGA said, saying that he needed more characters to add mystery, like that "maybe" the real villian is not what we think it is. It almos sounds like he want us to believe that. That's all folks!
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Post by PolystyreneLion on May 21, 2017 2:20:48 GMT -6
Really cool model!
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Post by ChucklesTheJester on May 21, 2017 6:59:54 GMT -6
Yes I agree, Zangetsu looks REALLY COOL. I wonder if he was intentionally inspired by Jetstream Sam or if it's just a coincidence.
Regarding playstyle, I hope they don't completely neglect gear for the "secondary" playable characters. Personally I'm hoping that Zangetsu will be able to equip different weapons (not necessarily different weapon types, just different katanas), different coats, again not necessarily different "cuts" of coat, but it'd be nice if the color and texture changed, and different paper talismans/seals as accessories - those wouldn't necessarily have to change his appearance at all, but I think it'd be kind of a cool idea if he could equip different ones/find them as upgrades since his arm is covered with them.
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Post by CastleDan on May 21, 2017 7:47:10 GMT -6
looks like a great character and I can see him fitting into the story pretty well to make things more interesting. don't think he would fit in as a playable character though, the way Iga described him it sounded like he would be very anti magic/all things demonic, meaning I don't think the whole shard thing, or using demonic ability theme would work, would also feel a bit out of place having him use some weapon types. After Dominique I can't think of a 3rd character I would really want as playable, I hope more are introduced soon. dastlecan touched on some of this already, but...I'm not sure what you mean by some of this here. Extra playable characters in IGA's games never have the same systems and playstyles as the main character. He wouldn't use shards, and neither would Dominique if she was playable. He likely wouldn't have any other equippable weapon period, just his katana, which would likely have different moves/power-ups, or just a set of abilities that use a system separate from Miriam's (i.e. Alucard-style spells). What do you mean about her being the most voted character? If you mean those thread polls, that was just between her, Alfred and Anne, which aren't all that strong as far as competition lol. The forum polls also, while they can give a general idea of things, don't really mean all that much in the grand scheme of things. There's too much we don't know. All that said, I want Dominique to be playable too, but it's always been well-assumed Zangetsu would be one of the character choices. His anti-demonic stance makes him perfect to tell another side of the story. If he isn't a playable choice, I think he'll appear occasionally as a rival battle in the game, such as how Soma has to fight Julius, Hector against Trevor, etc. Bingo, you elaborated perfectly on what I was trying to say. Also - DastleCan strikes back
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Post by Dengojin on May 21, 2017 8:03:41 GMT -6
FIRST OF ALL, i watched IGA's part at Bitsummit livestream, you can see it here as CastleDan said, at 2:12:00 onwards. And just...look at this This could be a teaser of how IGA's boss will be like in the game, a Samurai wearing cowboy hat ? I'm interested in this!
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Post by thrashinuva on May 21, 2017 8:21:04 GMT -6
Nothing interesting for me to say. It looks pretty cool.
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Post by estebant on May 21, 2017 10:28:00 GMT -6
I sounds to me like he's gonna be filling the Belmont role. With Ofuda instead of sub weapons.
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