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Post by Scars Unseen on Dec 20, 2016 5:18:59 GMT -6
Will the Beta also be on Wii U? From the Kickstarter's FAQ: "No, you must choose Steam or GOG as one of your platforms and back at the $60+ tier. If you wish to add the beta as an add-on purchase, you must add-on any of the $60+ PC versions."
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Post by exalt9 on Dec 20, 2016 6:49:37 GMT -6
Is a Nintendo platform Bloodstained happening for sure 100%?
In other words, if Wii U version is cancelled, will NS version happen for sure 100%?
Could there be a chance where both Wii U and NS versions are cancelled?
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Post by XombieMike on Dec 20, 2016 6:54:49 GMT -6
It will be coming out on Wii U and the prequel mini game will be on 3DS. That's the plan at the moment. This is all on the Kickstarter.
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Post by exalt9 on Dec 20, 2016 8:23:26 GMT -6
Is the Wii U port being developed last to ensure a quick transition to NS if the Wii U port is discovered to function terribly?
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Post by XombieMike on Dec 20, 2016 11:01:04 GMT -6
I'm no expert on porting games, but as I understand, nothing for any port is really done until the code is finished. The code is written to work as Unreal Engine 4 which can compile appropriately for whatever system it needs to. It does not compile natively for Wii U. Armature seems to think they can bridge the gap of getting it compiled in a way that works for Wii U. How much of that is UE4 specific vs Bloodstained specific? For all I know Armature doesn't need Bloodstained to start that work. They could be working right now to get porting UE4 to Wii U. None of us know without asking Armature. Mana might be able to clarify.
The tone behind your question is easy to respond to. Trust IGA to do the best to fulfill expectations. Don't worry about the details. You can make problems out of nothing for anything in life if you worry when there is nothing you can do anyway.
If you don't fully believe Bloodstained will work out for Nintendo systems, just wait until it's out to spend money on it.
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Post by Astaroth on Dec 20, 2016 11:14:02 GMT -6
no, what is going on is armature is working on a plugin for UE4 that allows ANY developer (they will release this plugin to the public when theyre finished) to develop a game in UE4 for the wiiu/vita and bloodstained is essentially acting as the proof of concept (hey weve got this cool plugin, see what we could do with it)
keep in mind though even if such a plugin is made, there are still optimization and testing costs for every platform since each platform has unique oddities that pop up, but the optimization of the wiiu/vita ports is also being done by armature (who has experience with wiiu/vita porting like this) which takes that burden off of the main dev team to focus wholly on pc/ps4/xbone
now, what this means for the wiiu plugin itself IF the wiiu version is dropped for the switch, we have no clue, and IF iga does decide the switch version is the better route armature may still develop the plugin and release it
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Post by Aztec on Dec 20, 2016 13:14:26 GMT -6
no, what is going on is armature is working on a plugin for UE4 that allows ANY developer (they will release this plugin to the public when theyre finished) to develop a game in UE4 for the wiiu/vita and bloodstained is essentially acting as the proof of concept (hey weve got this cool plugin, see what we could do with it) keep in mind though even if such a plugin is made, there are still optimization and testing costs for every platform since each platform has unique oddities that pop up, but the optimization of the wiiu/vita ports is also being done by armature (who has experience with wiiu/vita porting like this) which takes that burden off of the main dev team to focus wholly on pc/ps4/xbone now, what this means for the wiiu plugin itself IF the wiiu version is dropped for the switch, we have no clue, and IF iga does decide the switch version is the better route armature may still develop the plugin and release it Im not even sure what do you mean by plug-in but the Switch will allegedly support the UE4 out of the box meaning whatever Armature was hired to work with the WiiU would now supposedly not be needed anymore by the Switch.
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Post by Astaroth on Dec 21, 2016 9:02:12 GMT -6
yes, but you have to remember that the announcement that UE4 will have a nintendo switch plugin (an expansion pack for UE4 that does all the heavy lifting when porting to a specific system, xbone has one, ps4 has one, apple probably has one, fail10 has one) came at least a year AFTER the decision was made to make a wiiu version and bring armature in, now if the wiiu version does get dropped for the switch version then thats what iga and armature ultimately decided to do
but theres one piece that we will never know until either iga or armature tells us, and that is whether the business contract they signed back when the deal was struck allows for the release of better hardware, it may be easy for us to change our minds between switch or wiiu, but a contract cant do that, and if the contract didnt anticipate the switch being UE4 compatible and being capable of running bloodstained then until a modification or a new contract is drawn up both iga and armature are stuck, they have to do what the contract says or legalese happens, and legalese is expensive
side note, check the offtopic thread on the switch, looks like neogaf has info on the UE4 plugin, im posting it there
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Post by Rudiger on Dec 23, 2016 21:18:36 GMT -6
I currently own a Wii U and would prefer that the NS version is made instead. I originally backed for a physical Wii U and a digital PC version. However I will most likely be getting the NS soon after launch for BotW. Games for the Wii U will be very hard to buy when BS finally arrives, so it doesn't make much sense to make a Wii U version for a small amount of KS backers and minimal prospect of retail sales. I would like to see BS succeed and moving it to the NS would do that. So eventually we would be more likely to see a BS2 or another igavania type game.
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Post by exalt9 on Dec 24, 2016 14:00:39 GMT -6
If B: RotN is on the Wii U, how would it even run if Wi U does not natively support UE4.
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Post by Redogan on Dec 24, 2016 14:16:11 GMT -6
Armature is supposed to be writing code that will allow the Wii U to run UE4. (That is pretty much the gist of it.)
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Post by exalt9 on Dec 24, 2016 16:50:50 GMT -6
Will the prequel mini game be on NS if the full game is on NS?
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Post by XombieMike on Dec 24, 2016 17:40:23 GMT -6
No one knows.
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Post by oniros on Feb 12, 2017 13:38:02 GMT -6
With Yooka Laylee cancelling the Wii U version in lieu of the Switch and other kickstarters following suit, I think IGA, Armature, and Fangamer should address this soon. I pledged for a digital PC copy and a Vita physical due to being the only portable version available then. If a Switch port is announced I would probably switch my Vita version for the Switch one.
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Post by exalt9 on Feb 15, 2017 1:58:43 GMT -6
I am also waiting for the Wii U vs. NS port before pledging.
I support the NS port because getting Wii U to run UE4 would take too much work.
The money and time should be spent on polishing the game.
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Post by zoned87 on Feb 15, 2017 15:43:06 GMT -6
With Yooka Laylee cancelling the Wii U version in lieu of the Switch and other kickstarters following suit, I think IGA, Armature, and Fangamer should address this soon. I pledged for a digital PC copy and a Vita physical due to being the only portable version available then. If a Switch port is announced I would probably switch my Vita version for the Switch one. I am getting a Switch, but also keeping my Wii U so I will be happy regardless. Still I second this if they are planning to switch it over or not I would like a firm yes or no.
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Post by Aztec on Feb 24, 2017 2:16:05 GMT -6
At this point is anyone still left out of this poll that hasnt voted yet?
Iga is doing the right thing not announcing anything right now. Wait until the Switch comes out and is in the hands of millions and watch how the demand for a Bloodstained WiiU version quickly erodes what little support it had.
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Post by oniros on Mar 6, 2017 2:25:31 GMT -6
At this point is anyone still left out of this poll that hasnt voted yet? Iga is doing the right thing not announcing anything right now. Wait until the Switch comes out and is in the hands of millions and watch how the demand for a Bloodstained WiiU version quickly erodes what little support it had. So, about that...Wonder if this is legit news or the Switch port news was a leak.
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Post by Lestaroth on Mar 6, 2017 2:51:17 GMT -6
A leak? Maybe it's just a hoax. You never are too sure about the Internet these days. Caution is recommended especially when hype is in the mix.
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Post by Aztec on Mar 6, 2017 8:50:39 GMT -6
At this point is anyone still left out of this poll that hasnt voted yet? Iga is doing the right thing not announcing anything right now. Wait until the Switch comes out and is in the hands of millions and watch how the demand for a Bloodstained WiiU version quickly erodes what little support it had. So, about that...Wonder if this is legit news or the Switch port news was a leak. Evidence is starting to pile on that it might be true: m.imgur.com/51PEJgI?r
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