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Post by Kitti_W on Jul 7, 2016 11:50:35 GMT -6
When kickstarter campaign ended May 2015, IGA got 5.5m. The investment is done. But where do the funds from: 1. Slacker backers 2. Old backers who upgraded their pledges go? If it will be counted towards profit of the game then I'm considering upgrading my pledge to get IGA and Yamane san's autographs. And to increase chance of Bloodstained 2 happening.
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Post by LeoLeWolferoux on Jul 7, 2016 12:34:21 GMT -6
When kickstarter campaign ended May 2015, IGA got 5.5m. The investment is done. But where do the funds from: 1. Slacker backers 2. Old backers who upgraded their pledges go? If it will be counted towards profit of the game then I'm considering upgrading my pledge to get IGA and Yamane san's autographs. And to increase chance of Bloodstained 2 happening. ;) While it's a cool idea I'm sure the route they'll take is to make a new Bloodstained game, rather than a sequel. (much like the rest of the IGAvania series) But yeah, I wanna upgrade my $300 tier to a $500 tier when I get the chance. (And monies) :p
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Post by crocodile on Jul 7, 2016 13:10:44 GMT -6
Things that increase the chance Bloodstained 2 happens: -The game is legitimately good/great -The game is received well (most backers are happy, it reviews well, get good word of mouth) -The game sells well (it still needs to sell to those who never backed it) -The game world is well set up for a sequel(s) with strong narrative and mechanical hooks -Merchandising opportunities are plentiful and look fruitful -A positive community for the game forms and persists long after the game launches -The developers/contributors for the game are interested in doing a sequel (IGA, Inticreates, etc.)
A slacker backer campaign is about contributing to the development of the game and giving people an opportunity to get Kickstater exclusive items. They shouldn't be pocketing this money but rather using it as a development buffer. Let's not forget that because there will be a staggered release, development doesn't stop when the game ships. In every other slacker backer campaign I've seen for a crowdfunding project, the money was used for this buffer (or to reach new stretch goals - which doesn't apply here). Doing anything else feels, to be frank, somewhat dishonest.
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Post by saberwolf94 on Jul 7, 2016 14:05:06 GMT -6
I have no doubt in my mind that IGA would use most if not all of the extra money for the benefit of the games's quality but at the same time we don't know how much money they raised outside of the main campaign. Even if money keeps coming in it doesn't mean they can keep going overboard since the game will be ported to the Vita (take this with a grain of salt since I could be wrong and the Vita can handle the game no matter how hard they push for graphics and content) and at some point I feel if money keeps coming in it will invetably not be used for the game because they won't have a choice anyway if they do everything there is to be done. My hope is it would be at least saved and used for a sequel, spinoff or other similar project of IGA because let's be honest here; although am fine with spending another $360 for another of his projects let's say in a year or two, I don't think most people would have generated as much money as they did if it wasn't for all this thirst and years of waiting for one of these games. And on another note, it annoys me that people concluded that there will be a staggered release like it's guaranteed. Especially since am possibly one of the few people against it as far as I know, but I haven't seen IGA or any offical update confirming this so please don't decide on your own.
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Post by asterra on Jul 7, 2016 14:08:33 GMT -6
But yeah, I wanna upgrade my $300 tier to a $500 tier when I get the chance. (And monies) Indeed. I am in no position to upgrade my tier past what I started with, but I am really interested in that map. Granted, once you're past $100, you have officially entered "the bonuses are just for show" territory. I mean, what kind of map would really be worth a $200 premium? 20 square foot oak frame? It has to be just an unusually large (or maybe just a typically-sized) poster. But I can't be certain! A Bloodstained continuation feels like a done deal. I couldn't have confidently said that before the demo. The demo proves they're on the right track. Nobody has had anything truly negative to say about it, and the Bloodstained campaign itself did not, say, hire a supremely divisive community manager a week after the Kickstarter ended, who then went on an absolute tirade of power and silencing. It's hard to be cautiously indifferent when the contrast between this game and the other game is so stark.
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Post by zredgemz on Jul 7, 2016 14:46:30 GMT -6
I have no idea but from what i gathered is that the extra money was going to help finish the game, we still have all the dlc that will be done after so bloodstained will come out on time in march of next year. While a second game sounds great i just want to see how this one turns out first, who knows how the story will end or if non backers jump on and buy the game. Castlevania while having a pretty good size following was very niche, i hope for the best but i do wonder if all the super fans jumped on board the kickstarter.
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Post by Arcueid Brunestud on Jul 7, 2016 15:24:10 GMT -6
A new Bloodstained game will depend on how well received the game is upon launch. As long as the final product doesn't turn out to be a Mighty failure, and gets a good Number on sales and reviews, then there will definitely be a new Bloodstained game, or even 9 of them in the future.
Even if it gets fantastic backing, if it doesn't turn out to be successful then there's no point in continuing.
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Post by Yän on Jul 7, 2016 15:58:48 GMT -6
A new Bloodstained game will depend on how well received the game is upon launch. As long as the final product doesn't turn out to be a Mighty failure, and gets a good Number on sales and reviews, then there will definitely be a new Bloodstained game, or even 9 of them in the future. I love the subliminal message in this ^^ Plus I think you're right. They'll only make a second one if that is what people want.
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Post by cecil-kain on Jul 7, 2016 17:47:02 GMT -6
Perhaps Fangamer Steve or Dangamer can help answer this... How much has been raised since the Kickstarter campaign ended, and how will those funds be used?
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Post by Shax on Jul 8, 2016 6:27:47 GMT -6
Yeah, it will probably depend on how well the game does, how its received, etc. But, Iga really does seem to value the opinions of his fans/followers so a second game might be possible even if this one doesn't get super popular. I don't doubt it will be a good game though.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he say something about a possible sequel? I think it might have been in an "Ask IGA" I don't remember which one though. But, I'm 99% sure he didn't say anything that hasn't been said in this thread already though.
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Post by Kitti_W on Jul 8, 2016 11:46:48 GMT -6
Yeah, it will probably depend on how well the game does, how its received, etc. But, Iga really does seem to value the opinions of his fans/followers so a second game might be possible even if this one doesn't get super popular. I don't doubt it will be a good game though. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he say something about a possible sequel? I think it might have been in an "Ask IGA" I don't remember which one though. But, I'm 99% sure he didn't say anything that hasn't been said in this thread already though. He did said that. It's something like "it would be a shame if this Bloodstained will be the last time he make this type of game" I too don't remember which interview it was. Maybe someone could come up with a link to that clip. I also remember he mentioned something like next time it's gonna be easier because he can re-use assets. (This time he can't re-use anything from Castlevania.
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Post by m0nkf15h on Jul 8, 2016 12:48:42 GMT -6
I'm probably gonna get a lot of hate for this but i feel that it has to be said and even if you disagree with me i hope you understand my reasons :-
I really REALLY hope there is not a sequel to Bloodstained. I'm getting sick of the common practice within the games industry of sequelising everything or making something the start of a series of games. Although Bloodstained will borrow many mechanics from previous Castlevainia titles i believe it will still have its own unique identity thanks to its storyline and the fact that it will be something greater that the sum of its parts (even though it reuses recognisable game mechanics, the play experience using them all together will be something new and fresh).
I know its going to be carefully made and i trust IGA totally to deliver the experience that we're all looking for (there is no-one better equipped to do so IMO) so i know Bloodstained will be great - i just dont want its greatness to be overshadowed or diminished by the pressure to constantly make things a franchise. Some things are just too good to need sequels.
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Post by saberwolf94 on Jul 8, 2016 14:51:56 GMT -6
I'm probably gonna get a lot of hate for this but i feel that it has to be said and even if you disagree with me i hope you understand my reasons :- I really REALLY hope there is not a sequel to Bloodstained. I'm getting sick of the common practice within the games industry of sequelising everything or making something the start of a series of games. Although Bloodstained will borrow many mechanics from previous Castlevainia titles i believe it will still have its own unique identity thanks to its storyline and the fact that it will be something greater that the sum of its parts (even though it reuses recognisable game mechanics, the play experience using them all together will be something new and fresh). I know its going to be carefully made and i trust IGA totally to deliver the experience that we're all looking for (there is no-one better equipped to do so IMO) so i know Bloodstained will be great - i just dont want its greatness to be overshadowed or diminished by the pressure to constantly make things a franchise. Some things are just too good to need sequels. To me, how valid your thoughts about Bloodstained not getting a sequel depends on Bloodstained itself, the game. Maybe it will set itself up for a sequel or maybe leaving it as a standalone story would be the right thing to do. We don't know that yet. I agree that sequels for the sake of sequels are bad but obviously there can be great or even necessary sequels. IGA's scenarios are usually standalone, possibly without thought of building up more on the characters and story but there can be no guarantee since we're not in his head. With that in mind I feel that normally he would do the same here but I think it's possible he might be thinking of leaving up some things open for a sequel or spin off. He pretty much said in one of his Ask IGA youtube videos that it could go either way.
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Post by estebant on Jul 8, 2016 16:57:41 GMT -6
I'm probably gonna get a lot of hate for this but i feel that it has to be said and even if you disagree with me i hope you understand my reasons :- I really REALLY hope there is not a sequel to Bloodstained. I'm getting sick of the common practice within the games industry of sequelising everything or making something the start of a series of games. Although Bloodstained will borrow many mechanics from previous Castlevainia titles i believe it will still have its own unique identity thanks to its storyline and the fact that it will be something greater that the sum of its parts (even though it reuses recognisable game mechanics, the play experience using them all together will be something new and fresh). I know its going to be carefully made and i trust IGA totally to deliver the experience that we're all looking for (there is no-one better equipped to do so IMO) so i know Bloodstained will be great - i just dont want its greatness to be overshadowed or diminished by the pressure to constantly make things a franchise. Some things are just too good to need sequels. I waited way too long for IGA to come back to us. I hope he milks the Bloodstained teat for decades to come.
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Post by xCROOKEDx on Jul 8, 2016 21:47:53 GMT -6
All of the extra scratch that comes from the slacker-backers and upgraders will probably go towards making a monetary buffer-zone for the development team. I could only imagine that many of the stretch goals (in-particular, the prequel game and the hardback book upgrade) essentially destroyed the buffer that they had before, so all of the extra pledges would be going towards that again. Essentially, extra money should they need it during the dev. period for BS:ROTN, otherwise it goes into making the next game/extra-content/grace period while the studios figure out what to do next.
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Post by yoshi9048 on Jul 9, 2016 9:21:27 GMT -6
The biggest thing I'd advise is to not announce you're concurrently working on another game until the first game is finalized (including a sequel). Even if it is common practice; most backers don't really know that and will see it as a faux pas instead of standard business.
Don't want to have another Red Ash debacle.
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Post by ChucklesTheJester on Jul 15, 2016 15:08:44 GMT -6
It's always possible but I'd rather they focus on the game they're making RIGHT NOW.
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Post by Rixuel on Jul 17, 2016 11:38:51 GMT -6
The most crucial part imo is the storyline. Gameplay can be the best, but nowaday, if the storyline is bad, the chance of having a Bloodstained 2 is very hard.
Don't worry, I believe in IGA, his stories from the Castlevania series were good and it picked my curiosity.
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