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Post by Goobsausage on Feb 16, 2016 17:06:51 GMT -6
Regarding censorship... The 'petting' has been altered. In the Japanese version you could pet any character to raise their support level. In the English version, you can call a character into My Room, see their higher res 3-D model and hear their spoken line, but you can't pet them. However, petting is in if the character you called into your room is your spouse. I actually like that. I remember when the petting was first announced, I was hanging around Fire Emblem Awakening's Miiverse community, and there was some tense discussion with strong opinions both ways regarding the petting. During this, I maintained a view that I could get behind getting touchy-feely with who you married (and this was before marriage was confirmed for Fates), but wasn't too fond of the idea of getting touchy-feely with any old member of the army regardless of support level. So, looks like my view on the matter more or less won in the west, haha. That sounds like a good compromise. The idea of petting everyone feels more creepy than it should to me, but doing it with a spouse feels meaningful that way. Almost as if it reflects how you can't just violate everyone's comfort zone in real life, especially if you're a superior in the workplace. If anyone's interested, the Fates voice actors have been revealed. I don't recognize everyone, but looks like a strong lineup: Laura Bailey, Cam Clarke (yay!), Paul Eiding, Yuri Lowenthal, Matthew Mercer, Liam O’Brien, Stephanie Sheh, and Travis Willingham. I don't know if I'll get to play Fire Emblem Fates in the near future since I don't own a 3DS, but I loved the GBA games and I'm interested to see how the multiple campaigns work out. It reminds me of the Zelda Oracle games. I hope everyone has fun with them! |
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Post by BalancedHydra on Feb 16, 2016 17:23:01 GMT -6
Regarding censorship... The 'petting' has been altered. In the Japanese version you could pet any character to raise their support level. In the English version, you can call a character into My Room, see their higher res 3-D model and hear their spoken line, but you can't pet them. However, petting is in if the character you called into your room is your spouse. I actually like that. I remember when the petting was first announced, I was hanging around Fire Emblem Awakening's Miiverse community, and there was some tense discussion with strong opinions both ways regarding the petting. During this, I maintained a view that I could get behind getting touchy-feely with who you married (and this was before marriage was confirmed for Fates), but wasn't too fond of the idea of getting touchy-feely with any old member of the army regardless of support level. So, looks like my view on the matter more or less won in the west, haha. That sounds like a good compromise. The idea of petting everyone feels more creepy than it should to me, but doing it with a spouse feels meaningful that way. Almost as if it reflects how you can't just violate everyone's comfort zone in real life, especially if you're a superior in the workplace. If anyone's interested, the Fates voice actors have been revealed. I don't recognize everyone, but looks like a strong lineup: Laura Bailey, Cam Clarke (yay!), Paul Eiding, Yuri Lowenthal, Matthew Mercer, Liam O’Brien, Stephanie Sheh, and Travis Willingham. I don't know if I'll get to play Fire Emblem Fates in the near future since I don't own a 3DS, but I loved the GBA games and I'm interested to see how the multiple campaigns work out. It reminds me of the Zelda Oracle games. I hope everyone has fun with them! Is that the VA line up? That's quite the cast. |
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Post by Goobsausage on Feb 16, 2016 19:37:03 GMT -6
Is that the VA line up? That's quite the cast. Yeah. It's as if the casting director said "I want everyone from my favorite 00's anime dubs and and also a few Metal Gear alumni in the recording booth for this project, but one at a time because that's how this type of recording thing usually works." I also noticed Kris Salter providing a voice. I want to say it's actually voice director Kris Zimmerman Salter (worked on lots of stuff), she directed the VO for the games, and provided the voice of a character, but I don't have enough proof. It doesn't look like everyone is matched up to the role they play, though. According to the article, the game's credits just lists the actors and it looks like other sources are matching them with characters. I hate it when that happens. Maybe it's a union-related thing. I noticed one of the actor name from the credits is "Otis Paul" and I think that's one of Paul Eiding's aliases/stage names for non-union games. |
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Post by Nuke on Feb 16, 2016 23:33:31 GMT -6
Regarding censorship... The 'petting' has been altered. In the Japanese version you could pet any character to raise their support level. In the English version, you can call a character into My Room, see their higher res 3-D model and hear their spoken line, but you can't pet them. However, petting is in if the character you called into your room is your spouse. I actually like that. I remember when the petting was first announced, I was hanging around Fire Emblem Awakening's Miiverse community, and there was some tense discussion with strong opinions both ways regarding the petting. During this, I maintained a view that I could get behind getting touchy-feely with who you married (and this was before marriage was confirmed for Fates), but wasn't too fond of the idea of getting touchy-feely with any old member of the army regardless of support level. So, looks like my view on the matter more or less won in the west, haha. I have to admit, I was far more accepting of this then I figured I'd be. But it's probably because as you mentioned, it makes sense if the character in question is your spouse, and not just any old random member. I could see why having the option of being able to touch ANY character could come off as creepy, but I never thought much about it until it was announced that it would get censored. Interestingly enough, it was in a way that I actually approve of. As such, I'm fully content and don't mind what they did there in terms of censorship.
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Post by LuckPercentSRL on Feb 22, 2016 9:58:48 GMT -6
Props to Nintendo for the difficulty on Conquest. Chapter 10 is balls hard if you are missing some members (like I am). Game's story is fantastic so far. Really felt emotional with some of the events leading to the branch of fate. The overall structure of the game's mechanics are really good, a bit better than Awakening. I also like that they added some new features and old features from the GBA games.
Anyone had any time to play it at all?
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Post by Galamoth on Feb 22, 2016 13:00:07 GMT -6
Props to Nintendo for the difficulty on Conquest. Chapter 10 is balls hard if you are missing some members (like I am). Game's story is fantastic so far. Really felt emotional with some of the events leading to the branch of fate. The overall structure of the game's mechanics are really good, a bit better than Awakening. I also like that they added some new features and old features from the GBA games. Anyone had any time to play it at all? Oh yeah. I've been enjoying Conquest even more-so than Birthright.  |
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Post by Scuttlest on Feb 22, 2016 16:25:37 GMT -6
Since I wasn't able to get the three-in-one version, I'll probably get Conquest by itself. And, really, since I'm doing it this way, I'm not sure if I'll ever be playing Revelations. I'll probably get Birthright as DLC, but the chances of me also buying Revelations is looking very remote.
I dunno, I'm just not the FE fan I used to be. Back when Awakening released I was very passionate about the franchise, and I bought all of Awakening's DLC just as it became available. Not sure what happened, but for whatever reason I think I'd rather look at Zelda for my medieval fantasy fix.
Ah well, need to get more money to put into my gaming budget before I do anything with Fates.
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Post by BalancedHydra on Feb 22, 2016 18:51:21 GMT -6
I'm loving Conquest so much right now. Over the weekend, when I'm not doing my grown-up responsibilities, i couldn't put the game down. As for chapter 10... Bravo Nintendo! I can only imagine the ass kicking we'll be getting if we play this chapter on Lunatic.
I'm also loving Niles SOOO much. Not sure if I got lucky with his stat growths but my Niles is so good at taking out anything shy of a tank.
This may be cheating a little bit but the free DLC map is a great way to farm support points.
Edit: If anyone wants to visit my castle, here is my address. 05721-29780-50106-11731
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Post by Nuke on Feb 23, 2016 17:22:38 GMT -6
I'd swear I'm the only one in here who started on Birthright, but it sounds like Galamoth touched on Birthright too, heh. Anyway, as I mentioned earlier, being the FE nut that I am, I intend to go through all three routes. Since I intend for the third path, Revelation, to be my main file for grinding EXP and gold on, I'm more just focused on getting through the stories of Birthright and Conquest. I haven't touched Conquest yet, but so far, just about everywhere I go on the internet, people are all claiming that Conquest is the better version in everything. But we all know opinions are opinions, lol. I'm going to withhold any final judgements on the stories though until I've completed my run through Birthright AND Conquest.
That said, I do feel that the Birthright story isn't getting enough appreciation IMO. One reviewer somewhere on the internet simply claimed the Birthright campaign to be the "We're the good guys, and that's that! Hurr hurr." (Not in those exact words, but it about sums it up, lol). As someone who's going through the Birthright story, I can clarify it's certainly deeper than that. There's a reason why TV Tropes lists "Grey VS Grey Morality" as one of the tropes for FE: Fates. Nohr may have it's flaws, but gosh darn it, I care for those other characters on the other side already. Especially Elise. Can I like... just scoop her up and recruit her into my Birthright campaign already? Funny thing about that though is I'll probably be saying the same thing to the likes of Sakura and what not when I start the Conquest story. 
Going any futher would be diving into spoiler territory for the Birthright story so... spoilers:
The biggest reasons why I can't help but still care for them is that for starters, you START the game with them helping your avatar, and they generally all treat you as a family member even though you're not related. Elise seeing you as a big brother/sister for that matter. As you start the Birthright campaign, it's obvious that while Corrin hates Garon and joined Hoshido to get back at him, he/she still really cares about the people who helped raise him... and HALF of them still really care about him/her. Elise in particular is the one who stands out on this, even getting in the way of Xander to let you escape. Makes me wish I could have some of them Nohr units in my army that much more in Birthright.
On that note, it's probably a good thing I started with Birthright for gameplay reasons too. These changes to the re-classing and combat systems threw me for a loop a little, lol. Glad I had the leg room to experiment with that stuff before getting into the teeth gritting difficulty of Conquest. |
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Post by Galamoth on Feb 25, 2016 5:07:28 GMT -6
The Fire Emblem series certainly has been enjoying greater financial success in recent years. Good. It's well-deserved, especially for Fates! |
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Post by LuckPercentSRL on Mar 17, 2016 22:21:47 GMT -6
Thought I come back to this thread and give my impressions on Conquest. Won't do any spoilers though!
STORY.
Definitely the weakest part of the game. There wasn't much build up with the avatar character and at times I just felt annoyed about some of the things that happened that you wish you could have just taken control and did things your own way. But I see the game has to have a story to follow so I get that. Also I expected a bit of like Conquest to be like an evil growth on the avatar like how Birthright is about growth in the light, but it really isn't. It's more of the avatar following orders up until he gets his own little objective done and then is like "Yeah here's the truth." and becomes all goody guy. I'll admit the final chapters were hard to play since you do eventually have to fight your other side siblings. I wasn't caring much for some of them, but as you progress, there's some like ouch moment. Then again it brings up the whole take control and do things your own way again which doesn't happen until like the last 3 chapters.
CHARACTERS.
Really good build on support conversations, children conversations, and overall implemented in the story. Better than Awakening where side characters you meet appear in a chapter, say what they say, and then go silent for the rest of the game basically. Side characters that aren't the royals get a bit better role in the story. The children in this game are a bit better than the other children in Awakening (Except Morgan. She was the best), but honestly the whole "deeprealms" explanation is bs anyways. They just shoe-horrned that in to get the children up to speed. Probably would have been better if there was some sort of like a couple year gap in the game where characters were able to mate and stuff. Awakening got away with it because they were children from the future to save said future by going to the past with Lucina.
GAMEPLAY.
So without playing either Birthright or Revelation, how does Conquest fare with the Fates engine? I say it's pretty neat. Conquest isn't easy and it will remind you of that with the limited options for grinding and gathering money (unless you grab the DLCs). Nothing seems unfair (unless you play Lunatic..) and the improved weapon triangle works really well. All classes are pretty balanced so magic users aren't broken as hell anymore (lol). The only class I still have trouble with is the axe wielders because of their low hit%. I know the mechanic is changed where you can actually hit someone with like a 4% and actually miss a 90%. It's just that I'm not a super huge risk taker so the class isn't that great for me. Though I'll admit, once you know who are your tanks and powerhouses, it kinda gets a little easy if you use them all the time. But then again, the game can throw a curve ball and just let someone get a crit and ruin your day.
EFFECTS.
Beautiful. I loved the cutscenes, the music (omg the music is fantastic), the transitions, the voice acting, critical animations (the Sorc Crit where the character levitates into the air is pretty boss), and the whole atmosphere of the game.
With that I can't say its perfect. Its totally better than Awakening in terms of balance and gameplay. Maybe a bit in the story department (just story overall. Awakening had like 40 plot holes jebus rolenzo). I can't wait to play through Hoshido and make my life miserable to kill the characters I grown with in Conquest and then have them all together in Revelation.
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Post by thrashinuva on Mar 18, 2016 5:51:03 GMT -6
The gameplay, music, stages, and character design are all top notch. Some supports feel lacking, or strange, and it all becomes more apparent as to why when you get into the censorship stuff.
Overall I'd rate it higher than awakening, but it could have gained some points if so much didn't get cut.
I've beaten Conquest without doing any DLC runs. It was challenging, and I had to utilize my characters effectively. Now I'm doing a Birthright run spamming the living daylights out of DLC (Corrin reached 20/25 on chapter 7), and I'm actually into some of the character supports. I'm curious to pair up the supports and see which have more substance.
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