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Post by Scuttlest on Mar 9, 2018 15:59:52 GMT -6
Alright, I'm usually not the person to talk to for analyzing silhouettes, but I took a crack at the scene where they're in front of the Smash logo.
From left to right, I think I can see...
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Pit
Donkey Kong
Peach
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Kirby
Don't take me as some kind of official analyzer skill, though.
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Post by Galamoth on Mar 9, 2018 18:19:54 GMT -6
I think it's too early to assume that this is an entirely new Switch Smash Bros, despite the 2018 release date.
For all we know, this might be the rumored Switch port of Smash 4 for Wii U & 3DS. (Though, in fairness, this is unlikely. Nintendo has never done that for SSB before)
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Post by Scuttlest on Mar 9, 2018 19:17:26 GMT -6
I think it's too early to assume that this is an entirely new Switch Smash Bros, despite the 2018 release date. For all we know, this might be the rumored Switch port of Smash 4 for Wii U & 3DS. (Though, in fairness, this is unlikely. Nintendo has never done that for SSB before) I find it extremely unlikely to be a port. With the other Wii U To Switch ports, Nintendo was very upfront about that fact that they were just updated ports. Look back to the reveals of Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Pokken DX, and the upcoming Hyrule Warriors: Definitive Edition for proof, in all cases they clearly stated it was a port with some new goodies, and weren't as vague about it as they were here. Hyping up a game like this only to reveal it to be a port would be a foolish idea. (Which, admittedly, Nintendo has had from time to time.)
Furthermore, if it was just a port, I think Nintendo would probably call it 'Super Smash Bros. For Nintendo Switch'. Though for the extent of the moment Nintendo is just calling it Nintendo Switch Super Smash Bros. (Working Title). I don't buy the idea that they would notably put in 'working title' if it was just a port, no matter how updated it is.
Also, consider the fact that the title card seems to employ a different font for the letters. Why would the font be notably different if we're just looking at a port?
I will not eat poop if it turns out to just be a port.
But anyway, thinking of the roster. Honestly there aren't many characters I would like to see/want to see anymore. Most of my favs are either already confirmed (ex. BoTW Link, Inklings, etc.) or are shoe-ins due to consistent appearances in the franchise (ex. Meta Knight, Pit). If I were to list some characters I would like to see...
Rex and Pyra: from Xenoblade Chronicles 2. Never actually played the game, but I do like their designs a whole lot. (Moreso Pyra.)
Alm and Celica: The proliferation of FE characters in Smash 4 was something of a meme/complaint, but if 5 continues the 'added characters promote upcoming or recent Nintendo products' then Alm and Celica would not be unreasonable adds as they are the protagonists of the most recent FE game. Failing Alm and Celica, perhaps the Lord of the upcoming mainstream FE game on Switch. Could possibly be an early bird appearance much like how Roy was in Melee and Corrin was in 4.
(While I paired these entries, I'm advocating for four separate PCs, not Ice Climber-esque combo characters. Speaking of...)
Ice Climbers: Release them from your dungeon, Nintendo! 
Waluigi: I'd like to see him be promoted from Assist Trophy to playable character.
And that's about it for new characters I would like to see.
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Post by Galamoth on Mar 9, 2018 21:08:41 GMT -6
The following makes me even less confident that this Switch SSB is anything more than a port of the Wii U/3DS Smash 4.
(Skip to the 0:36 mark)
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Post by Ixbran on Mar 9, 2018 23:42:17 GMT -6
In terms of characters, I can see Rodin from Bayonetta getting in. Keeping in mind Bayonetta is co-owned by Nintendo and Sega from the second game onward, in Bayonetta 2 for the switch if you use amiibo in rodin's shop he claims to have a package delivery for her via a letter. If you scan a SSB4 amiibo not related to Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Star Fox, or her own SSB4 amiibo, you get a special message: |
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Post by Ixbran on Mar 10, 2018 16:24:50 GMT -6
GameXplain put up a new video analyzing the song that plays when the Inkling stares at the burning logo in the background, and compares it to SSB4's previous theme. The SSB4 theme was the same between both the WiiU and 3DS versions, so if this was a SSB4-Switch then it'd have the same theme. However the theme is drastically different, very slow and melodic, and imposing which fits the image the Inkling is presented with. However interesting thing to note that the discussion from GX's twitter post someone points out the theme song from the trailer is a remix of the save room theme from Subspace Emissary from Brawl. Specifically, the save rooms you could find and use in the final stage of SSE's story in the pocket dimension bubble. |
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Post by Ixbran on Mar 13, 2018 19:10:49 GMT -6
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Post by Galamoth on Mar 14, 2018 6:35:33 GMT -6
^There are only 2 new characters I wish to see, whether or not this 2018 Smash turns out to be "Smash 5" or an updated Port of SSB4: Shantae & Sylux. I understand some people's desire to see Bomberman in the new game, too. ( 'Cuz of his relatively recent success on Switch) As much as I wanted him in with the previous Smash Ballot, I've decided I can survive without seeing Shovel Knight in this fighting game, especially since he's planned for a Bloodstained cameo-of-sorts (as the "Shovel Armor" enemy). |
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Post by Astaroth on Mar 14, 2018 22:40:38 GMT -6
i think the biggest issue with bomberman is his moveset is at most 3 moves and a jump (bomb, remote bomb, and kickbomb) unless you make him a full on trap char or theres games im not aware of that expand his moveset,
shovel knight would be an interesting guest with his relics and duck tales movement
shantae has enough variety with her transformations and you could work her dance mechanic into her final smash with a ddr style rhythm game
biggest issue with crash is same with bomberman, unless you work in moves like tnt barrel or nitro or megaphone (and make his stage briefly visit the nintendo hq for the lulz) he barely has enough for basic attacks, although his obvious final smash would be aku-aku mode
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Post by Galamoth on Mar 15, 2018 7:27:09 GMT -6
i think the biggest issue with bomberman is his moveset is at most 3 moves and a jump (bomb, remote bomb, and kickbomb) unless you make him a full on trap char or theres games im not aware of that expand his moveset. Bomberman's got a lot of games to work from, especially two of the N64 games. There's also "Charaboms" from a few games. As for other basic bomb actions, he can throw & pump/"grow" bombs as well. He can even change the element of his bombs (if the theoretical moveset takes inspiration from Second Attack). |
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Post by BalancedHydra on Mar 15, 2018 11:29:35 GMT -6
Why only Bomberman? Can't we have Richter Belmont as well?
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Post by Ixbran on Apr 25, 2018 12:06:50 GMT -6
I've said this before, but I honestly think the best Castlevania rep would be Simon Belmont, the franchise was started by his games on Nintendo consoles. also take into account that all we need is Simon, and then with Pit and Megaman, we have a Captian N reunion. Bonus points if there is a story mode and the three of them travel together and acknowledge each other as if already knowing one another.
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Post by Galamoth on Apr 25, 2018 13:04:32 GMT -6
You know who'd really make the next Smash game magical, though?
I've seen some Tiki support recently. YES. Smash needs her too.
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Post by Ixbran on Apr 25, 2018 21:42:38 GMT -6
also take into account that all we need is Simon, and then with Pit and Megaman, we have a Captian N reunion. WE DO NOT SPEAK ITS NAME  Uuummmmm, No~ |
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Post by Ixbran on Jul 11, 2018 0:51:36 GMT -6
I've been seeing this template that shows off gamers mains, secondaries, most wanted, and least wanted characters for SSBU and thought it'd be fun to fill it out. so here's mine:
- Zelda: I've been a Zelda main since Melee, she's one of my favorite characters to play. I'm not the biggest fan of her re-design and am hoping her TP design might be imported from SSB4 as an alt costume. But regardless I intend to continue using my favorite Nintendo Princess to the best of my abilities.
- Bayonetta: I Voted for Bayonetta almost every day after the ballot was made public, and have been happy for her inclusion ever since. I'm a huge fan of her franchise, I adore and respect the hell out of her, and I'm happy to see her return. I may not be the best with her but I have the most fun when playing as her.
- Robin: I'm not a big FE Gamer, the only FE game I've ever played and enjoyed is FE: Warriors. That said I really enjoy Robin's play style in SSB4 and in FE:W. So I intend to keep playing as him and trying to get better with him. The meters for his tome and levin sword usages near his icon are going to be a huge help in managing him better.
- Mii Swordfighter: I'm a big fan of the idea of Character Creation in video games, and I use my Mii as my Switch User icon, and can not wait to bring him into SSBU as a sword fighter. Can't wait to see what kind of outfits they have available for the Swordfighter.
- Snake: Never played a single Metal Gear game in my life, however I loved playing as Snake in Brawl. I'm very happy to see him back, and intend to play as him more often now that hes returned. I hope I can make him one of my best characters.
Secondarys - Palutena: Palutena has always been one of my fav characters to use, but over time I sorta stopped. The same could be applied to the other's in my secondary list. However with the changes made to her specials: Side B is now explosive flame and her down B is now both Counter AND Reflect, it'll be nice to see how I can improve with her.
- Marth: I used him a LOT in Melee, and a bit in Brawl. in SSB4 I wanted to play as him, I just never did. I intend to bring him back to my main circle of characters used. Honestly I think it was because of the voice. The fact he never spoke English really irritated my OCD, especially since the other FE Characters spoke English. Maybe now that that's been delt with, I can enjoy using him again.
- Shulk: I've become a huge fan of Xenoblade Chronicles and XC2, so with the changes made to Shulk's Neutral B, I intend to try and main him more. I can't wait to see what other changes have been made to him.
- PKMN Trainer: With Red back I can play as Squirtle and Ivysaur again, the two whom I preferred over Charizard. since you can use the change mechanic in the air, it will make an effective dodge. And using Squirt and Ivy to wittle opponents down, then pulling out 'Zard to deal the finishing blow will be my go-too tactic with them.
- Ganondorf: I've always had a Love/Hate relationship with Ganondorf in smash. I love hes here, but I hate playing as him. however the changes made too him make him look like hes fun to use. He has gained a speed boost, he uses his sword in smash attacks, and he still hits hard. So I intend to try and use him more often.
Most Wanted Newcomers- Rex and Pyra: the Blade and Driver mechanic from XB2 would make for a fascinating feature in SSBU. I'm very fond of their sibling-like relationship in the game, and would love to see what kind of banter the two could share while in battle in SSBU. One suggestion I've seen tossed around is that Pyra could stand in the background of the stage and when tethered to Rex via an Ether Cable, her attacks could be powered up. And if separated he'd be weaker. she could teleport to different platforms that Rex is on if he jumps, and could walk along with Rex while he moves across the stage. (He could have an alternate costume that puts him in his Master Driver outfit, and in this costume he could be accompanied by Mythra instead of Pyra. His final smash could be Pyra/Mythra transforming into Pnuma and then using the power of her artiface Siren to rain down light energy on Rex's opponents.)
- Spring Man: Given ARMS and Splatoon are Nintendo's two new major IP's, I don't expect them to play favorites and just have a Splatoon rep and not an ARMS rep. And while I my self don't play ARMS, I'm a lazy and I play games to relax not get my heart rate up, I still would like to see an ARMS rep get in. Spring Man, as the games face character, has a fairly high chance. I can also see him getting a costume based off of Ribbon Girl. Like the two Robins, the two Corrins, and the two Wii Fit Trainers.
- Simon Belmont: Aside from the leak list posted a few months back, I think Simon has a high chance. Sure Castlevania has had many main characters, but Simon is the face of the franchise like Marth is to Fire Emblem. He was the protagonist of the first game, and has starred as the lead role in multiple titles. Also if Simon got in, with Pit and Mega Man the trio of them could have a pseudo Captain N Reunion. If there is a story mode, and Simon get's in, I really want to see the three of them travel together.
- Sora: Many seem to think his chances aren't that likely, but they actually kind of are. A YouTuber named HMK was invited to the special KH3 Event some time before E3 and while there he asked two major questions to the staff: Who truly owns KH and Sora's chances of getting into Smash.
- Sora is owned by Disney, not Square Enix. This comes as a surprise to absolutely no one whos bothered to read the copyright information in the opening screens, and on the back of the box's, of all the series entries. Though despite this Disney, out of respect of Nomura, wont do anything with Sora, or the other KH Originals, without Nomura saying its ok.
- Disney is Very Aware of KH Fans wanting Sora to get in Smash. While it would be a bit rocky, its not impossible. They would be willing to sit down with sakurai and Nomura and talk together about how he'd function in Smash. The only thing keeping sora out of Smash really is weather or not Sakurai want's him.
- Shovel Knight: Out of all the Indie titles out there, shovel Knight has effectively become the 'face' of the indie scene. He's appeared as a guest character in multiple indie games, while his game is multi platform it started out on a Nintendo console, and hes the only Indie Game character whos franchise has got their own amiibo line. He's got a huge fan base, and it continues to grow.
Least Wanted Newcomers I debated on weather or not to fill this spot out, as I believe there are no such things as a bad character choice. But It'd feel weird with the box being completely empty. So I just put them there to fill the box out. If they did get in, I wouldn't be upset any, I just would chose a number of characters before them |
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Post by BalancedHydra on Jul 11, 2018 8:12:25 GMT -6
Mains - Ike: Most of the bruisers in the previous games were very melee/punch focused. I picked Ike up because of the extra range of his sword, his side-special for mobility and that he can KO someone early is the right setup.
- Marth/Lucina: While Ike was about damage, Marth & Lucina was about style and precision. It was a natural fit give my experiences with Igavanias. Positioning and precision attacks.
- Corrin: So I'm a FE nut. Sue me. Anyway. I love how Corrin does have a little extra range compared to his FE buddies except Corrin. I play Corrin as a poker. Exploit flaws in positionings and get some free damage in.
- Mii Gunner: Long ranged Pew Pew. This is to round up the Short/Mid/Long range options in the game.
Secondarys - Mii Brawler: I actually have a Jesus Mii and turned him into a brawler to lay down the holy smack down.
- Zero Suit Samus: Mainly because I want to annoy my opponent by jumping all over the place and fight my opponents not just in screen but mentally as well.
- Link: I like that he can cover multi ranges with his kit. Trick my opponents by making them think i'm a one trick pony only to surprise them with using the rest of the kit.
Most Wanted Newcomers - Simon Belmont/Richter Echo: Yes yes. Simon is the face of the franchise but with echo fighters and can have both. Similar movesets but slightly different attributes. Simon would be bulkier and Richter can be a little faster on his feet. The Belmonts can be like Shulk where they can select the sub-weapon like the Monado Arts on the fly. The two can have different Final Smashes. Simon could be a callback to the fighting game on the Wii and Richter can the Item Crash of currently equiped sub weapon. The sheer Trolling we can unleash with Hydro Storm and Grand Cross Final Smash.
- Revan: Contact Bioware and see if they want a representation in smash.
- Doom Guy: Rip & Tear! Call Bethesday and ask if they want a representative in Smash.
Least Wanted Newcomers - Miriam: Do I even need to explain this one?
- Shovel Knight: Again. Explanation needed?
- Dracula: If we'll have a Belmont in this game, Mathias Cronqvist needs to make it as well just to finish up the duality between these two eternal foes.
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