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Post by Haliax on Jun 28, 2019 19:01:27 GMT -6
Ok so I want to give feedback regarding the Brazilian Portuguese localization. There are a LOT of things wrong and a lot of screenshots because of it, so I'm going to just post the image links instead of embed them. I'm going to divide this feedback in two parts: things that are objectively wrong (typos, missing whitespaces, wrong translations, etc) and things that are subjectively wrong when it comes to a game translation (we brazilian gamers are used to a whole number of gaming related english expressions that, when translated literally, doesn't make any sense and actually hurts the experience). So let's start.
1.3 Typos and overall problems:
imgur.com/xr9B3S4 : "pescotapa" is a regional expression and shouldn't be used here. Using something more generic like just "tapa" would be better. I had to google what that is to give you an idea.
Link to all galleries:
My thoughts: I'm almost sure that whoever was responsible to translate this game has never translated a game before, and consequently is not used to leaving alone some expressions. Technically speaking, all subjective points could be ignored because they're correct, but that isn't enough when working with a game localization. Honestly most of brazilian players are probably going to play in english anyway, but having a localization in our language is essential to atract newcomers. And this sad state is not exactly welcoming.
I really hope that this was helpful, and I'm looking forward for some patches!
Nice work there, congrats! I was just about to point out some of them, but you got there first lol. Now, being a translator myself I was very curious to play it in Portuguese when I found out it was translated (I remember reading somewhere the game wouldn't have translations, but here we are). Overall I found it good, it doesn't have any major negative impacts on the user experience, but of course it may vary. I also got confused by some of the translations, especially the "O" for "G" in gold, always made me think it was a 0 and I had more money than I thought. I think they could've used a gold coin icon instead with a G (or a gold icon without any letters on it), so much more easier to understand what it represents. On a side note, I had a good laugh with "pescotapa", I haven't heard it in a long while and it also got me wondering how much of the audience would understand it. First dialogueTranslation missing imgur.com/1HNXS0REN "But I am the only one who can. The shard experiments prepared me for combat. Let them amount to something." PT-BR "Mas sou a única que pode. As experiências com fragmentos me prepararam para o combate. Que eles seu valor então." There's a word missing from the translation here, probably "mostrem" between "eles" and "seu". "Que eles mostrem seu valor então". Eventually
imgur.com/hZPo0NNEN "The strength you gain from it is undeniable, but eventually the crystal will devour you." PT-BR "A força que você ganha com isso é inegável, mas eventualmente… o cristal irá devorá-la." "Eventualmente" here has a different meaning from "eventually" in English. They're false friends. In Portuguese it expresses a possibility, a hypothesis. In English it has the sense of "in the end" or a consequence. Some options to translate the sentence would be: "A força que você ganha com isso é inegável, mas um dia… o cristal irá devorá-la." "A força que você ganha com isso é inegável, mas consequentemente… o cristal irá devorá-la." "A força que você ganha com isso é inegável, mas no fim das contas… o cristal irá devorá-la." Dialogue from good ending
imgur.com/rZkKOMqEN "You're very welcome. Come on, let's go home." PT-BR "E eu vou fazer o que puder para não decepcionar você. Ande, vamos para casa." First sentence seems a bit over translated for me. A simple "De nada" (you're welcome) or "Não tem por que agradecer" (don't mention it/no problem) would be enough. Menuimgur.com/5HfOvdXEN "Favorite" PT-BR "Favorito". Although this is not major, I think it should be "Favoritar", given all the other commands are verbs (Usar, Ordenar, Voltar) instead of nouns Aello Item Drop
"Monster Bird Tear" Another item which the translation is overflowing. "Lágrima de Pássaro Monstruoso" is too long. "Lágrima de Ave Monstruosa" may be an option. About the quotes:
I'm not bothered by "pescotapa", but I understand if it's changed to "tapa". Regarding "Eventually", I wouldn't use "A força que você ganha com isso é inegável, mas consequentemente… o cristal irá devorá-la.", it sounds weird. The other two are fine.
Now onto some more missing lines/words from dialogues and mistranslations. I'm in the beggining, but I'll post some here just to show that they need to be revised and updated. I intend to finish the game before making another post so as not to pollute this thread.
It is missing the word "Tudo" > "Tudo que sei...". EN: "All I know is that the spell that stopped time for you was advanced, arcane...".
"visto" incorrectly written in the singular form, instead of plural ("vistos"). Correct would be: "Itens equipáveis podem ser vistos [...]".
Missing a part from original dialogue "Vou limpar o convés com eles." from EN "I'll wipe the deck with them."
"Nonsense" is mistranslated as "despropósito" (I don't even know what this word means). EN: "This is nonsense." should be translated to one of the following: "Isso é besteira."/"Isso é um absurdo."/"Isso é bobagem." or something else.
Missing an "r" in "Preparar". It is correct on the top left of the screen.
In this one, it is missing the word "Miriam" before the second part of the dialogue. O.D. asks Miriam her name, and she responds him in this sentence. I don't have the english text to type here for this one and the next.Also, Miriam calls him OD instead of O.D. on this dialogue. I don't know if it's intended to be like that and it doesn't bother me, just saying this cause might be a mistake as well.
"Because" is mistranslated to "Por que", while the correct translation is "Porque". Yes, this is an actual other word that exists and have a totally diffent meaning. Por que = Why and Porque = Because.
I share hiratafabio's opinion that common enemy and weapon names should be translated. Special enemy and weapon names inspired by foreign folklore or that don't have a direct portuguese translation should be kept in english IMO. Same for the bosses.
Thank you both for the feedback. I hope we can help make this game better. I also am grateful for the PT-BR translation, we do not always get one and it is awesome that you cared. It makes a big difference, especially in such an amazing game.
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Post by krauserkahn on Jun 28, 2019 20:14:55 GMT -6
Easy now, I wouldn't say Spanish from Spain is 'weird' or anything like that, my friend. Language is language, and they're all good in their own ways. But I agree with you, in practical terms it might be best to have the Spanish translation done in the Latin American dialects since so many people live in that region, so it makes sense to translate for the folks who'll be buying the most copies  In any case, though, even the Latin American spanish localization needs work, so keep paying attention to the script and highlighting mistakes, everyone, all this is really helpful!  The economy of Latin American countries is quite precarious and there is a lot of piracy in video games for that reason. I doubt that in those countries the game has more sales than in Spain. The Spanish market is more relevant, that's why 99% of the games are translated into Spanish from Spain and not Latin America. Oh I don't think so. Info by Newzoo, a videogame market analyst.2018 Spain revenues: $2 Billion2018 Spanish-speaking Latin America revenues: $3.5 BillionNot only that, but in 2017 LatAm revenues: $3.1 Billion, that means a $400 Million increase in just a year. We, Spain, only grow as $100 Million per year (2016 total revenues were $1.8B, 2017 $1.9B and 2018 $2.0B). It's pretty safe to say that by the end of the year they will be nearly doubling the revenue we produce. You are picking the wrong battles, pal. Stop polluting this thread with your childish behavior and just enjoy the game. |
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Post by adrianort on Jun 28, 2019 20:49:12 GMT -6
So Hello Everyone. Spanish Post 1: Monsters' names: The objective of this post is to provide the most appropiated names for all enemies into Latinamerican or Iberian Spanish. There are names that doesn't match into spanish - looks like literal translation -. I'll check also the japanese name of the monster to determine if it must be kept in the original form. As translator, I'd like to offer this perspective: Translated names with asterisk (*), in blue and in bold are suggested to change. I did all the table even if the name is repeated in the localization, but I offer a better approach.
| Number | Original English
| Suggested Spanish Translation
| 1
| Morte | Morte
| 2
| Seama | *Seama
| 3
| Cannon Morte - Suggested to
change into "Morte Cannon" | *Cañón Morte
| 4
| Aello | *Aelo OR *Nicótoe - Although in the game is written in japanes as アエロー : AeRo, also means "arrow" . Due that it is the name of one of the Harpy sisters, it is up to keep either Aelo or Nícotoe.
| 5
| Ghost | Fantasma
| 6
| Dullahammer | *Dulamartillo
| 7
| Giant Rat | Rata Gigante
| 8
| Bone Morte - Suggested to change into "Morte Bone" | *Morte Lanzahuesos
| 9
| Bat | Murciélago
| 10
| Gieremund | Gieremund
| 11
| Blood Grinder Knight | *Armadura Trituradora - Originally "Outsider Knight" in the japanese version of the game. From now on, all outsider armors will be named "Armadura" with the characteristic weapon. "Outsider" is more like "alien", "stranger" or even "visitor". Simply IT DOESN'T FIT!
| 12
| Sabnock | Sabnock
| 13
| Moco Weed | *Hiedra Carnívora - "Moco Plant" sounds odd, worse in spanish.
| 14
| Toad | Sapo
| 15
| Plume Parma | *Cerdo Volador - Quite obvious.
| 16
| Barbatos | *Bárbatos - Notice the tilde in the first "á"
| 17
| Carabosse | Carabosse - A fairy that belongs to the french culture, so it must be kept as it is, and there is not a spanish equivalent.
| 18
| Simio | Simio
| 19
| Zagan | Zagan
| 20
| Poltergeist | Poltergeist
| 21
| Ordog | *Sabueso Pútrido - This spanish form is more attractive.
| 22
| Gargoyle | Gárgola
| 23
| Killer Barber | Barbero Asesino
| 24
| Demon | Demonio
| 25
| Buer | Buer
| 26
| Nyabon | *Miaubon - にゃ: nya is the japanese form for cats to meow, in spanish is "Miau". A close approach to spanish is "Miaubon".
| 27
| Scyte Mite | Ácaro de la Guadaña
| 28
| Dullahamer Head | *Cabeza del Dulamartillo
| 29
| Buer Armor | Armadura Buer
| 30
| Wolfman | Licántropo
| 31
| Thunder Elemental | Elemental de Trueno
| 32
| Carriage Morte | *Cañon Morte con Ruedas
| 33
| Dantalion | *Dantaleón
| 34
| Rul'sha | Rul'sha
| 35
| Decarabia | Decarabia
| 36
| Shovel Armor | *Armadura Pala
| 37
| Malediction | *Cabeza Maldita - "Maledicencia" is quite odd in spanish, and it means also "Curse". A compound noun fixes the problem.
| 38
| Celaeno | Celeno
| 39
| Shield Outsider | *Armadura Escudo
| 40
| Puppy | Cachorro
| 41
| Lili | *Lilim - It comes from the Japanese name of the monster, リリム or Lilimu . You killed the "m", suggested to bring it back.
| 42
| Assassin | Asesino
| 43
| Dragon | Dragón
| 44
| Kunekune | Kunekune
| 45
| Poison Toad | Sapo Venenoso
| 46
| Sidhe | Sidhe
| 47
| Bomber Morte | *Morte Bomba
| 48
| Mimic | *Imitador - "Mimico" is odd in spanish, so please use the word suggested
| 49
| Light Elemental | Elemental de Luz
| 50
| Ocypete | Ocípete
| 51
| Cyhyraeth | Cyhyraeth - Kahyrice - カヒライス from the source I found. Nothing to do with the English name. Better the proper welsh name
| 52
| Chair Mimic | *Imitador de Silla
| 53
| Leraje | Leraje
| 54
| Bloodbringer | *Espada Sangrienta - Fits better the spanish name.
| 55
| Lance Armor | *Armadura Lanza
| 56
| Tamako-Death | *Tamako Mortal - Yes, it is Tamako * Death, but in spanish sounds better "Mortal" than "Muerte". So here it is. "Letal" is quite different.
| 57
| Triwheel Buer | *Carruaje Buer
| 58
| Gamigin | Gamigin
| 59
| Titania | Titania
| 60
| Axe Outsider | *Armadura Hacha
| 61
| Scylla | Escila
| 62
| Forneus | Forneus
| 63
| Deeseama | *Diseama
| 64
| Water Leaper | *Saltador de Agua
| 65
| Glashtyn | Glashtyn
| 66
| Seeker | Ojo Buscador - Just added a deeper description to get a better name to this monster
| 67
| Archdemon | Archidemonio
| 68
| Amy | Ami - アミー. Better to keep that name as it is, because it is not a woman so far, and the monster description doesn't match with the english name.
| 69
| Allocer | Alocer
| 70
| Vul'sha | Vul'sha
| 71
| Living Fossil | Fósil Viviente
| 72
| Rocky | Rocky
| 73
| Dark Elemental
| Elemental de Oscuridad
| 74
| Lamashtu
| Lamashtu
| 75
| Macaron
| Macarrón
| 76
| Blood Bug
| *Bicho Sangriento
| 77
| Fire Elemental
| Elemental de Fuego
| 78
| Volcano Morte
| *Morte Volcánico - In spanish, names of monster are in Neutral form. "Volcánica" is a femenine noun, so "Volcanico" is neutral and fits to the monster.
| 79
| Hellhound
| Sabueso Infernal
| 80
| Zepar
| Zepar
| 81
| Deathtrap
| Trampa Mortal
| 82
| Gusion
| Gusion
| 83
| Gaap
| Gaap
| 84
| Haagenti
| Haagenti
| 85
| Kamikaze
| Kamikaze
| 86
| Ninja
| Ninja
| 87
| Giant Moco
| *Hiedra Carniívora Gigante
| 88
| Giant Bat
| Murciélago Gigante
| 89
| Giant Toad
| Sapo Gigante
| 90
| Giant Cannon
| *Cañon Morte Gigante
| 91
| Giant Morte
| Morte Gigante
| 92
| Giant Buer
| Buer Gigante
| 93
| Chariot Buer
| *Carroza Buer
| 94
| Marbas
| Marbas
| 95
| Silver Wolfman
| *Licántropo Plateado - "Argénteo" is odd in spanish. Better with this adjective.
| 96
| Abyssal Guardian
| *Guardian Abismal - "Abisal" is not common in spanish. "Abismal" is a better word related with the abyss.
| 97
| Harrier
| Perseguidor
| 98
| Ice Elemental
| Elemental de Hielo
| 99
| Tracer
| *Ojo Rastreador
| 100
| Gusion Cannon
| *Cañón Gusión
| 101
| G Axe Outsider
| *Armadura Gran Hacha
| 102
| Demon Lord
| *Señor de los Demonios - This name is quite spooky, rather than "Demonio Supremo".
| 103
| Eight Bit Zombie
| *Zombi de 8 bits - All of them better with the number instead the written form.
| 104
| Eight Bit Ghost
| *Fantasma de 8 bits
| 105
| Eight Bit Skull
| *Craneo de 8 bits - "Calavera" implies all the bones of the human body. "Craneo" is better for this.
| 106
| Eight Bit Overlord
| *Señor Demonio de 8 bits - "Caudillo" is more used in politics. Better to use "Señor Demonio".
| 107
| Master Carpenter
| Carpintero Maestro
| 108
| Revenant
| Resucitado
| 109
| Millionaire's Bane
| *Pesadilla del Millonario - "Flagelo" means "illness" or "suffering". "Pesadilla" is closer to "Bane" in meaning.
| 110
| Vepar
| Vepar
| 111
| Zangetsu
| Zangetsu
| 112
| Craftwork
| *Vitral Infernal - The english name translates "Artesanía", so it is nice to have a spooky name with the adjective "infernal". "Vitralus" is bad written too, is "Vitraluz". I'd keep with "Vitral Infernal"
| 113
| Andrealphus
| Andrealphus
| 114
| Valac
| Valac
| 115
| Glutton Train
| *Locomotora del Averno - "Glutton" Doesn't fit at all, and train translates "train". I suggest to use "locomotora" due that is the head of the train and obviously, is the boss.
| 116
| Bathin
| Bathin
| 117
| Gebel
| Gebel
| 118
| Bloodless
| *Duquesa Sangrienta - It is quite evident that this character is based on duchess Bathory. It is a better name for this monster. "La Exangüe" is not properly translated... it is similar into spanish like "anemic", but "exangüe" is not common. Hence, a total revamp of the name suits this monster.
| 119
| Alfred
| Alfred
| 120
| Doppelganger
| *Doppelgänger - Please note the "ä" that must be written
| 121
| Orobas
| Orobas
| 122
| Zangetsu
| Zangetsu
| 123
| Valefar
| *Valefor - This name is valid too. Just to add a masculine property to the monster
| 124
| Gremory
| Gremory - No spanish approach. I thought "Gremoria" could fit, but it doesn't exist.
| 125
| Dominique
| Dominique
| 126
| Bael
| Bael
| 127
| Olrok Dracule
| Olrok Draculea - We can get an agreement to not to use the very obvious name of Dracula, but looking the original name, is Draculea, so here it is.
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Here is my work. Hope you enjoy it. I'm open to positive feedback. Thanks!
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Post by alenntax on Jun 29, 2019 3:31:51 GMT -6
I don't speak Spanish, but a couple remark here that might explain some choices: Regarding #4: "Aello" is the name of one of the Harpies sisters in the greek mythology, with Celaeno (#38) and Ocypete (#50), so that's probably the right spelling. #17: there's a "Fée Carabosse" in french folklore so maybe that's what they went with ? (Disney renamed her Malefiicent when they made the Sleeping Beauty film.) Thanks for this interesting approach. Looking at internets, there are the spanish equivalent for those names, so I'll take them to replace those ones. Regarding Carabosse, due that it belongs to the french culture, it must be kept as it is because there is no spanish approach to that name.
You're welcome. One more I just saw, concerning # 46, Sidhe: (Also spelled Sith) that's the name of the fairy/elven folks in the gaelic folklore. Looking at the original japanese name I think they went with daoine sídhe, the [fairy/elven] people of the mounds. Now in this context I suspect the "Daine" you're suggesting is actually an adjective. See: Banshee or bean sídhe (lit., woman of the Sídhe); Leanan Sídhe; Cù Sith (lit., dog of the Sídhe), Cat Sith; etc. Question now, concerning the French localization: I haven't seen straight up translation errors as much as grammatical and/or layout errors (so far !), the two most common being the space after an apostrophe -there shouldn't be one- and the missing space between words. There's far, far too much of thoses to posts them all here, but here's a few exemple: imgur.com/HPZAuYQThere shoudn't be an espace after the apostrophe in "d'entaille"; d'estoc" and "d'obsucrité" imgur.com/FgcWcyUOh god, where to start ? - There should be a space after the comma at "homonucule", and the J should not be in uppercase
- There should be a space between "étrange" and "de"
- There should be a space after the dot at "sujet"
- There should be a space after the comma at "enfin"
- There should be a space between "observer" and "avec"
- There should be a space after the dot at "multiplier"
- There should be a space between "propage" and "sur"
- There should be a space after the dot at "choisi"
- There should be a space after the comma at "liquide"
- There should be a space after the comma at "assez"
- There should be a space between "pour" and "découvrir"
- And an argument could be made for "une étrange formation de cristal blanc" instead of "une formation étrange de cristal blanc": the former would flow better, imo
... and that's just two screenshots. I've got 18 more waiting from just a couple of minutes in the game's diary. I agree with holycookie that access to the game's text, in raw form, would be far more efficient than having to screenshot basically every other line of dialogue for this kind of small issues. A couple of other things while I'm at it: There should be a space between the amount and the currency when picking up money. (i.e. "50 Or" ou "100 Or" instead of the current "50Or") Regarding monsters names (at least the monsters I've encountered so far) : sometimes you translate the "Morte" in "Spectre", sometimes you don't: (ENG -> FR) #1: Morte -> Spectre #3 Cannon Morte -> Morte canon #8 Bone Morte -> Bone Morte #32 Carriage Morte -> Spectre-calèche #47 Bomber Morte -> Spectre à bombe
You've translated "Mimic" as "Imitation" (monster #48; and "Chair Mimic" as "Imitation de chaise"; #52) but while not wrong, I wonder if it's really the right choice ? In this context, I find the frenchified "Mimique" (and "Mimique Chaise" for #52) more accurate; that's what both D&D and the Dark Souls games went with.
You've translated most "Outsider" as "Relique", for ... some reason. I suggest taking a cue from adrianort 's suggestions and streamlining their names:
(ENG -> Current FR -> Suggested FR)
#11: Blood Grinder Knight (Originally "Outsider Knight" in the japanese version of the game.) -> Chevalier Broyeur -> Chevalier Broyeur
#39: Shield Outsider -> Relique à bouclier -> Chevalier à bouclier
#60: Axe Outsider -> Relique à hache -> Chevalier à hache
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Post by ntcace on Jun 29, 2019 8:00:38 GMT -6
All issues in Switch version 1. [Japanese] Language setting: Japanese; When you enter the game after it crushed, the dialogue text becomes English. You have to change to other language, then back to Japanese to fix it.  2. [Traditional Chinese] There are too many issues in Traditional Chinese. I can't help but wonder if the translation team used only Google Translate and did not test it at all. 2.1 Missing text  2.2 Naming for monster does not match  2.3 Bad quality  |
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Post by jonathan2396 on Jun 29, 2019 16:03:00 GMT -6
adrianort Really like the job u done here, just have some feedback, every outsider i think should be "viajero, viajero con" (i mean they are dead bodies/souls i guess(?) some descriptions say they are demons or skeletons lol) but they were "viajeros" before ending this way, except the blood grinder, maybe should be "Caballero triturador" Edit: Oh and "Calavera" its only for the Head, the entire body could be "esqueleto"
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Post by adrianort on Jun 30, 2019 5:35:14 GMT -6
adrianort Really like the job u done here, just have some feedback, every outsider i think should be "viajero, viajero con" (i mean they are dead bodies/souls i guess(?) some descriptions say they are demons or skeletons lol) but they were "viajeros" before ending this way, except the blood grinder, maybe should be "Caballero triturador" Edit: Oh and "Calavera" its only for the Head, the entire body could be "esqueleto" Thanks for the feedback, but I am afraid I won't be able to make these changes. These are the reasons:
a. There are several mistakes about the use of the word "outsider". In fact, monsters' descriptions are not congruent. Some are knights, while others are just armors. To unify all outsiders in a whole, I preferred to use "armadura", because most of their descriptions define them as armor, not as a knight.
b. "Calavera" is a quite imprecise word. That's why I decided to "cráneo", because it defines perfectly that part of the body and doesn't lead to odd interpretations. If you see the 8 bit stage, there is no "esqueleto" but "cráneo".
Indeed, thanks for your feedback.
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Post by adrianort on Jul 1, 2019 16:05:15 GMT -6
Spanish post 2: Minor errors in game menu: It is necessary to be "Atajos" instead "shortcut" A. Compendium translation errors: In "Compendio" there must be fixed the following: Character/Term
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| | Miriam | 
| 1. ... y estuvo congelada en el tiempo durante otros 10 años.
2. ...a quien ella considera como su hermano, podría haber abierto nuevamente las puertas del infierno.
| | Gebel | 
| 1. ... en el Gremio de Alquimistas. Fue un sacrificio...
2. ... el único que sobrevivió junto con Miriam.
3. Lleno de ira, asesinó a su familia adoptiva de alquimistas...
| | Johannes | 
| 1. Ignorante de los planes macabros de la organización,...
2. Johannes se unió a Dominique y a la iglesia, y usó...
| Dominique
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| 1. Dominique conoce tanto a Johannes como a Miriam; y le pide el favor que lleve a Miriam a Arvantville, donde...
2. Ella notó las grandes habilidades de Myriam, y le encarga la misión de perseguir a Gebel, a la vez que le ordenó a Zangetsu...
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| 1. Matademonios proveniente del Japón. Nadie conoce su verdadero nombre. Fue convocado hace 10 años a Inglaterra para combatir contra la horda demoniaca. Esta cruenta batalla le costó a Zangetsu su ojo y su brazo, mientras que el resto de su grupo fue asesinado...
| Alfred
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| 1. ...en ligafragmentos y ayudó a abrir las puertas del infierno que casi destruyó al mundo.
2. ... Johannes lo consideraba como su maestro.
3. ... de algún modo a la ira asesina de Gebel y busca un libro perdido...
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| 1. Fahrenheit Draculea - Discussed before why to use Draculea instead Dracule.
2. ... trata tanto a demonios como a humanos con el mismo desdén.
| Benjamin Judd
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| 1. ... tan asustado que no puede levantarse, y mucho menos buscar una salida.
| Susie Quinn
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| 1. La salud de ella había sido mala antes, y por los eventos recientes, empeoró su sanidad mental.
| Todd
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| 1. ... lo convirtieron en demonio hace mucho tiempo.
2. ... y no tiene la intención de atacar a Miriam...
3. Para eliminar su maldición, él tiene que hacer...
| Ofuda
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| 1. impregnados de energía protectora del Dharma.
2. ... para reemplazar su ojo y brazo perdidos, permitiéndole igualmente crear...
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I'll wait your feedback. Thanks.
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Some Traditional Chinese Localization Feedback. Here are weapon names and descriptions. Weapon's names Blue means I don't think it is wrong, Because weapon name is very hard to translate correctly. | English | Original Traditional Chinese
| Suggestion
| Note
| Kukri
| 克克利
| 廓爾喀刀
| A common translation for many years.
| Poison Kukri
| 毒液克克利
| 廓爾喀毒刀
| A common translation for many years.
| Invisible Blade
| 隱形刀劍
| 不可視之劍
| "刀" and "劍" usually not use together. | Fragarach
| 奪魂劍
| 回應者
| "奪魂劍" means "soul taker", but this sword's original meaning is "Answerer"
| Macuahuitl
| 麥克福帝棍
| 黑曜石鋸劍
| A common translation for last years.
| Ayamur
| 片手斧
| 擊退之棒
| "Yagrush" is already translated by its meaning, I think this should be same.
And, "斧" is Axe, not club. | Sharur
| 釘頭杖
| 沙魯爾杖
| A common translation for last years.
| Bunny Boots
| 兔靴子
| 兔兔靴
| More cute, and let all boots use "靴" as name suffix. | Hell's Knells
| 地獄之鞋
| 地獄斷頭台
| From kanji "地獄の断頭台" | Areadbhar
| 屠龍戟
| ？ | "屠龍戟" means "dragon slayer", the origin of Areadbhar nothing related to dragon.
Its original meaning more closer to "Slaughter". | Blunderbuss
| 大口徑短鎗
| 雷筒
| A common translation for many years.
| Tanegashima
| 種子槍
| 種子島
| A common translation for many years.
From Japanese "タネガシマ"
| | Redbeast's Edge | 雷特比斯特的邊緣 | "雷特比斯特之刃"
or
"赤獸之刃" | "邊緣" more like "border", I think here "Edge" is closer to "Blade".
"赤獸" is "Rea beast". | | Blue Skies | 藍天
| 青空下墜 | According to its description. | Boreal Rime Boots
| 北方霜靴
| 極北霜靴
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| Hikari
| 光
| 淨化劍 光
| According to its description. | Moonwake
| 月劍
| 月影
| According to original meaning.
| Final Hour
| 最後一小時
| 最終時刻
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Weapon's description | English Weapon Name | Original Traditional Chinese | Suggestion | Note | | Kukri | 帶有向內彎曲刀片的刀。 | 刀刃向內彎曲的刀。 | Refine. | | Swordbreaker | 為了破壞武器而製作的武器。
能降低敵人攻擊利。 | 為了破壞武器而製作的短刀。
能降低敵人攻擊力。 | Refine. | | Main Gauche | 對進攻和防守都有用的短刀。 | 攻守兼備的短刀。 | Refine. | | Rapier | 單手劍設計用於突刺。 | 主要用途是突刺的單手劍。 | Refine. | | Stinger | 一種刺穿武器，模仿蜜蜂的毒刺。
刀身有著毒藥。 | 一種模仿蜜蜂毒刺的突刺武器。
刀身上塗了劇毒。 | Refine. | | Kazikli | 一種刺穿的武器，上面沾滿了許多惡魔的血。 | 一把刺穿了許多惡魔，上面沾滿了血的突刺劍。 | Refine. | | Blue Rose | 夏特利格的刀刃代表了最好的鍊金術。 | 凝聚了鍊金術技術菁華的Shardbinder劍。 | This contain "Shardbinder" which is translated to "夏特利格".
But in story, "Shardbinder" is translated to "碎片人".
As I know, most of Chinese player hate this translation. So I keep "Shardbinder" here. | Eternal Blue
| 夏特利格的刀刃代表了最好的鍊金術。
| 凝聚了鍊金術技術菁華的Shardbinder大劍。
| Same above. | | Harpé | 一把帶有鐮刀樣子的劍。
| 劍身宛若鐮刀的劍。 | Refine.
| | Red Umbrella | 被血染紅的雨傘。 | 因血雨而染紅的傘 | Refine.
| | Hofud | 一種傳說中的刀刃，已經破壞了無數敵人的頭骨。
| 一把惡名昭彰的刀，已破壞過無數敵人的頭骨。
| It's Google Translate.
| | Dáinsleif | 一種神奇的刀刃，渴望生命的血液。
| 渴望生者血液的魔劍。 | Refine.
| | Almace | 一把劍，能一下子將空間凍結。
| 在攻擊時能使空間凍結的劍。 | Refine.
| | Ridill | 從龍的心臟取出的劍。
| 曾用來取出龍心臟的劍。
| Translation Error. | | Bloodbringer | 一把具有潛力的魔法劍能變得更強壯。
| 一把極具潛力，會成長的魔劍。
| Refine.
| | Sword Whip | 一把劍，像鞭子一樣靈活。
| 一把刀刃如同鞭子般靈活的劍。
| Refine.
| | Flying Edge | 一種神奇地賦有飛行能力的刀。
| 基於魔導工學而誕生的飛劍。
| Refine. | | Rhava Búral | 一把利用風靈的力量將敵人分開的劍。
| 一把利用風靈的力量將敵人撕裂的劍。
| It's Google Translate.
| | Rhava Velar | 使用神力來產生掏空風的劍。
| 利用風神之力來產生鐮鼬現象的劍。
| It's Google Translate. In Jp description "かまいたち" = "鐮鼬".
| Sharur
| 在永久凍土帶中發現的冰冷的棍棒。
| 在永久凍土帶中發現的冰冷棍棒。
| Refine. | | Mistilteinn | 從神木取出的神聖魔杖。
| 由神木所雕製而成的神聖魔杖。
| Refine. | | Flamberge | 由波狀刀刃能給予致命傷的大劍。
| 以波狀刀刃給予致命傷的大劍。
| Refine. | | Spiral Sword | 一把劍，像刀子一樣旋轉。 | 有著鑽子般旋轉刀刃的大劍。
| It's Google Translate.
| | Dies Irae | 導致受害者死亡的巨劍。
| 導向終結的巨劍。
| Refine. | | Gambanteinn | 一個令人著迷的物品，可以抵抗魔法。
| 一把可以抵抗魔法的的魔法杖。
| Refine. | | Battle Boots | 採用鐵板製成的戰鬥靴。
| 放入了鐵板的戰鬥靴。
| Refine. | Steam Boots
| 鋼靴配有蒸汽機。 | 配置有蒸汽機的鋼鐵靴子。
| It's Google Translate.
| Hell's Knells
| 惡魔創造的鞋子意圖斬首上帝。
| 惡魔意圖斬首上帝而製作的鞋子。
| Refine. | | Gondo-Shizunori | 著名的長矛，由東方將軍英勇的揮舞著。
| 東洋猛將所愛用的名槍。
| Refine. | | Gungnir | 一個雷神的矛。
它始終擊中目標。
| 必中的雷神之矛。
| It's Google Translate.
| Gae Assail
| 一把光之劍，淨化了任何人所穿過的靈魂。
| 將被其貫穿者的靈魂予以淨化的光之槍。
| Refine. | | Tsurumaru | 刀片優雅的曲線。
刀匠、國永之作。
| 有著優美曲線的刀。
刀匠、國永之作。
| Refine. | | Dojigiri | 擁有斬過鬼的故事的名刀。
| 擁有斬鬼故事的名刀。
| Refine. | Mikazuki
| 古刀匠、三條宗近的作品。擁有漂亮的刀紋。
| 古刀匠、三條宗近的作品。擁有漂亮的刃文。
| "刃文" is a proper nouns.
| Grand Izayoi
| 刀片造成極大的個人風險。
它成長並擁有自己的思想。
| 刀匠賭上性命鍛造的刀。
擁有自我意識，會如同人一般成長。
| It's Google Translate.
| | Black Cords | 鬃毛由烏鴉頭髮編織而成，通過一個獨特的咒語綁在一起。
| 以獨特的咒語將頭髮編織起來而成的鞭子。
| Refine. | Snakebite
| 蛇毒的鞭子形成的毒鞭。
| 仿照蛇牙所製成的毒鞭。
| Refine. | Blunderbuss
| 一種寬口吻的槍，類似於小號的嘴。
| 槍口如同喇叭一般的槍。
| It's Google Translate.
| Toradar
| 用於遠距離挑選目標的長槍。
| 用於遠距離狙擊的長槍。
| Refine. | | Culverin | 騎兵使用的步槍的小祖先。 | 騎兵使用的小型步槍。
| It's Google Translate.
| | Adrasteia | 一把槍的名字意思是“不可避免的”。
| 其名意為"避無可避"。
| Refine. | | Shield Weapon | 作為盾牌的武器。
| 可作為盾牌的武器。
| It's Google Translate.
| | Redbeast's Edge | 一把神秘、破碎的長劍融合在一起。
帶著魔法水晶的詛咒。
| 一把神秘、破碎的長劍。
與魔法水晶的詛咒融合在一起。
| It's Google Translate.
| | Sculptor's Chisel | 冰槍。但不是鐮刀。
鑿掉你所有的敵人。
| 一把冰槍，而非鐮刀。
鑿掉你所有的敵人。 | Refine. | | Eu's Sword | 宇宙之劍的統治者。
它的力量已經消退。 | 某異世界統治者的配劍。
力量已經消退大半。
| It's Google Translate.
| Ambivalence
| 被黑暗勢力束縛的鞭子。
蓄力以釋放光線。
| 被黑暗力量束縛的鞭子。
透過蓄力可以釋放光明。
| Refine. | Claw of Onmoraki
| 靈魂尋求淨化的武器。
| 由尋求淨化的靈魂鍛造而成的武器。 | It's Google Translate.
| | Prismatic Heart | 來自另一個世界的奇怪的桿。
寶石散發出神奇的光芒。
| 來自異世界的奇怪法杖。
寶石散發著魔法的光輝。
| Almost Google Translate.
| | Carnot's Rebuke | 一把巨劍，其內部蒸汽機為每個揮桿增添了不可思議的力量。
| 一把巨劍，其內部蒸汽機為每次揮擊增添了不可思議的力量。
| Refine.
| | Blood Grinder | 死氣沉沉而血腥的劍。
會在對手的血肉上無情地劈砍。
| 殘忍且血腥的死亡之劍。
會在對手的血肉上無情地劈砍。
| Refine.
| Blue Skies
| 用落下的天空的力量攻擊，充滿鮮血的靴子。
| 如同天空落下般的重擊，令靴子浸染在鮮血之中。
| Refine.
| | Boreal Rime Boots | 靴子上充滿了冰神。
被拯救了她的祖國的女主角使用。
| 被拯救故鄉的女英雄所穿著，
寄宿著冰神力量的靴子。
| It's Google Translate.
| Moonwake
| 月光塑造成刀片
反映內心的真實自我
| 月光成劍
反映真心
| It's Google Translate.
| Oleanders
| 為客人設計的鍊金鞋既歡迎也不歡迎。
| 用來驅趕不速之客的鍊金鞋。
| It's Google Translate.
| | Final Hour | 一把劍鍛造而成鐘樓的手。
| 於鐘樓打造出的劍。
| It's Google Translate.
| | Vine Sword | 利用葡萄藤的劍，一種古老的腐敗魔法。
| 利用了古老腐敗魔法的葡萄藤劍。
| It's Google Translate.
| | Valkyrie Sword | 戰鬥少女的劍
| 女武神的劍
| A different translation for Valkyrie, usually we will translate "戦乙女ヴァルキリー" as "女武神瓦爾基里". |
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Post by mxfcn on Jul 2, 2019 2:57:13 GMT -6
Simplified Chinese translation is even worse than Traditional Chinese. Shards, Weapons, Characters dialogues have so many inaccurate or misleading translations.
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It is an interesting work!
Can some admin organize main localization post in a kind of subtopics or subforum according to the language?
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Post by harkryuliu on Jul 3, 2019 7:02:15 GMT -6
Sorry for using chinese, I couldn't use Japanese or English so good.
And, WE ARE THE ONE WHO REALLY NEED LOCALIZATION.
游戏的繁体中文翻译实在是烂到令人发指。
大量的机翻和错译，甚至出现了错别字等低级错误。
推荐重新翻译，就像是自行车再怎么改进也成不了汽车，现在的翻译应该是没救了。
例如游戏中所有的“使魔”（Familiar）翻译为了“熟悉”这种明显是机翻的文本。 在名字中，但他林被正确的翻译了，而在碎片信息中，但他林被翻译成了不明所以的“德恩特莉恩”。 并且这个怪物的栖息地“里弗人工意识”也是不明所以的翻译。 此处出典于《仲夏夜之梦》的Titania被直译成为了“二氧化钛”这一化学元素名。
这样的劣质翻译在繁体中文中大量存在，甚至到了80%的翻译都有问题的程度。
也有存在错别字的低级问题。
翻译工作者跟定吾事了玩家和IGA的要求。
下述的链接为我在国内网站发布的吐槽文章，而在文章的评论区有友善的玩家指明了此处可以向制作组反馈这些问题。 希望制作组可以重视这些问题。
We really need a better Chinese localization.
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Post by chuzhigang1990 on Jul 3, 2019 15:11:08 GMT -6
When selecting language, we can select "Simplified Chinese", but in the Switch version of the game it is actually very badly translated Traditional Chinese. I have friends who are playing the game on Steam using PC, and it seems that the translation on PC version is much better than the Switch version. There are a lot of texts that are missing the meanings, and a lot of weapons, shards have inaccurate translations. For example, shard "welcome company" should be translated as "欢迎伙伴" instead of "欢迎公司", and all familiar shards should be translated as "使魔" instead of "熟悉". Maybe directly using the Steam version Simplified Chinese can fix most of the issues, but I am sure there are much room for improvement.
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Post by adrianort on Jul 3, 2019 17:10:24 GMT -6
Sorry for using chinese, I couldn't use Japanese or English so good. And, WE ARE THE ONE WHO REALLY NEED LOCALIZATION.
I understand, but also spanish needs several localization fixes. I hope our contribution will help to developers to care about it. |
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I noticed after playing boss rush mode on the switch the gamepad continues to rumple nonstop. With that animations seem to flicker light everywhere. This is the North American copy. Bug? imgur.com/gallery/bOX8kXR |
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Post by XombieMike on Jul 4, 2019 8:50:09 GMT -6
I noticed after playing boss rush mode on the switch the gamepad continues to rumple nonstop. With that animations seem to flicker light everywhere. This is the North American copy. Bug? imgur.com/gallery/bOX8kXRThis is not a localization issue. Please submit a bug report with the forum linked in the appropriate thread. |
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Post by TripMX on Jul 4, 2019 10:46:22 GMT -6
Ahahaha!! That "歡迎公司" translation is so funny! XD
Even though I'm not a native Chinese speaker, I did study enough to see that this was a direct translation, lol. Thank you for your hard work pinpointing and fixing a lot of these bad translations, plko!
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Post by harkryuliu on Jul 6, 2019 6:44:06 GMT -6
Sorry for using chinese, I couldn't use Japanese or English so good. And, WE ARE THE ONE WHO REALLY NEED LOCALIZATION.
I understand, but also spanish needs several localization fixes. I hope our contribution will help to developers to care about it. Thanks for encourage，but so sorry that I can't make some help to localization but just to complain... （And... what i mean is not Chinese need it most , but the one who chouldn't use English or Janpanese so well that can't kown what really happen in the game... wish it won't be displease you... or sorry but ... my English wasn't so good ,but I really didn't mean any offend... and,sorry.）
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Post by adrianort on Jul 6, 2019 11:31:58 GMT -6
Hello 505 games team:
I'm doing a second walkthrough in order to find DIALOG translation errors that may be even done from the English version of the game. Although I am doing that in Spanish, I probably consider to do it in English too. Even though, I am doing it in Spanish.
I've taken LOTS of screenshots with errors and translation mistakes to fix properly.
Thanks.
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Post by akahige on Jul 7, 2019 4:25:59 GMT -6
Any feedback on the Italian localization yet? I'm Italian myself, but I set my PS4 on English and play in that language by default. But I guess I might switch to Italian for my second playthorugh just to see how it is...
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In any case, though, even the Latin American spanish localization needs work, so keep paying attention to the script and highlighting mistakes, everyone, all this is really helpful! 
