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Post by ReySol on Jun 6, 2019 6:33:46 GMT -6
I enjoyed that interview! I wish Konami would offer IGA to make the 1999 game, or a remake of Dracula`s curse. I don`t see Konami as an entity that cannot change opinion, it also depends on individuals who work there, and things change with time. I really like Dracula/Castlevania lore and wish that IGA continues to be part of it. Bloodstained can also live as a franchise. It is not necessary to make many games of both franchises all at the same time. Ohh, and I would really like another game with Soma to complete a trilogy!
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Post by Brainiac on Jun 6, 2019 7:16:19 GMT -6
Anyway, I don't think it's been mentioned in this thread, but forgive me if otherwise. The two episodes he's referring to are the 1999 episode, with Julius as the main character, and the one that explains why the Belmonts couldn't use Vampire Killer in the 1940s, when Portrait of Ruin takes place (and maybe during Ecclesia, also? My memory's vague on this).
The Belmonts gave up the whip not long after Symphony. Possibly before the end of the 18th Century, possibly only a little into the 19th; we're not sure. The general assumption is Richter (we do know he was the last Belmont to wield it via the Whip's Memory) gave it up after realizing if he could be manipulated as he had been was by Shaft again, he would be a threat to the world. That, combined with a Nostradamus prophecy, led to it passing to the Morris branch until Julius was preparing for the Demon Castle War. Basically, the Belmont family was not in possession of the Vampire Killer in Ecclesia (indeed, the disappearance of the Clan was part of the reason that order was formed), Bloodlines, Portrait, and of course, the unseen equivalent to Stoker's novel - in other words, almost anything set in the 19th or 20th Centuries, save the very early former or very late latter. |
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Post by purifyweirdshard on Jun 6, 2019 9:27:50 GMT -6
I actually thought/assumed the issue was that Shaft's possession of Richter made it so that he couldn't use the whip even if he wanted because his soul became corrupted from that, unfortunately to an irreversible degree to make him/the bloodline not suitable for the whip any longer until further intervention - but the whip's memory would still hold him because Richter was still after all the last Belmont at the time of pre-corruption to use it.
I'd actually prefer the above to NOT be the case, since I don't like the idea of Richter's (unwitting) actions damning him and the clan so, but it seems that way from the discourse I've seen and what I've gathered.
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Post by Brainiac on Jun 6, 2019 10:03:55 GMT -6
I don't think a spiritual taint was the case, purifyweirdshard . After all, Richter wasn't the first time a Belmont was possessed/manipulated/converted in history (Soleiyu immediately jumps to mind). I DO believe Richter chose to step back and that unfortunately lead to the reduction of the Belmont Clan to the point that the gathering of branch family members in Ecclesia was a thing. The knowledge of a Nostradamus prophecy detailing that a Belmont would not wield the whip again until the Battle of 1999 was also a contributing factor. |
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Post by dareka on Jun 6, 2019 12:04:43 GMT -6
Anyway, I don't think it's been mentioned in this thread, but forgive me if otherwise. The two episodes he's referring to are the 1999 episode, with Julius as the main character, and the one that explains why the Belmonts couldn't use Vampire Killer in the 1940s, when Portrait of Ruin takes place (and maybe during Ecclesia, also? My memory's vague on this).
The Belmonts gave up the whip not long after Symphony. Possibly before the end of the 18th Century, possibly only a little into the 19th; we're not sure. The general assumption is Richter (we do know he was the last Belmont to wield it via the Whip's Memory) gave it up after realizing if he could be manipulated as he had been was by Shaft again, he would be a threat to the world. That, combined with a Nostradamus prophecy, led to it passing to the Morris branch until Julius was preparing for the Demon Castle War. Basically, the Belmont family was not in possession of the Vampire Killer in Ecclesia (indeed, the disappearance of the Clan was part of the reason that order was formed), Bloodlines, Portrait, and of course, the unseen equivalent to Stoker's novel - in other words, almost anything set in the 19th or 20th Centuries, save the very early former or very late latter. Yeah, I remember now... Richter was the last Belmont before Julius to use Vampire Killer, and it was why Ecclesia was formed, but I don't remember anything about the Nostradamus prophecy... where'd you get that particular tidbit. |
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Post by Brainiac on Jun 6, 2019 12:22:18 GMT -6
Yeah, I remember now... Richter was the last Belmont before Julius to use Vampire Killer, and it was why Ecclesia was formed, but I don't remember anything about the Nostradamus prophecy... where'd you get that particular tidbit.
The Nostradamus prophecy element is introduced in Aria of Sorrow. The first half was the 1999 defeat (though I don't think it specified the Belmont's COULDN'T use the whip in the interim, merely that they WOULD in 1999), the second was the 2035 return. In truth, the idea dates back to Symphony's development as seen in this translated interview. And given the actual lifetime of Michel de Nostredame (1503 - 1566) is entirely after Trevor's era and before Christopher's, it's quite possible he actually foresaw almost all of the resurrections of Dracula. |
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