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Post by duomaxwell007 on Jun 13, 2018 22:44:19 GMT -6
"This may, of course, simply be a matter of ROTN being incomplete at this stage of development," IGN in regards to the music in the E3 Demo
That isnt a line I wanna hear in regards to a game that SUPPOSED to come out this year. Expect a 2019 or 2020 delay everyone... Infact the fact that its E3 the year i halfway over and they demoed the game but no release date announcement only solidifies that. I mean no one announces a release date 3-5 months before launch (except maybe Bethesda)
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Post by duomaxwell007 on Jun 13, 2018 23:04:41 GMT -6
ummm "incomplete at this stage of development" Its just if the game was comin out this year it would be like 80% complete, definitely close enough to complete to not be using a phrase like "incomplete at THIS stage of development" makes it sound like the development just started or hasnt been going long at all
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Post by akuwa on Jun 13, 2018 23:09:44 GMT -6
I've been expecting a delay myself, but I wouldn't base that over a lack of music in the demo when they have already had an update saying the music is 100% complete with orchestrated tracks and all
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Post by purifyweirdshard on Jun 13, 2018 23:10:29 GMT -6
Wait, I thought you were quoting Ig A or something here at first, but that's mostly if anything IGN just assuming what stage of development the game is at. The music is done and it's amazing. I just don't think the reviewer was able to hear it for whatever reason. I also doubt he has any real insight on how far the game is, I'd imagine less of an idea than us. Feb 2018 update, stating the soundtrack was completed: Update 60Following update has samples.
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Post by gunlord500 on Jun 13, 2018 23:15:55 GMT -6
ummm "incomplete at this stage of development" Its just if the game was comin out this year it would be like 80% complete, definitely close enough to complete to not be using a phrase like "incomplete at THIS stage of development" makes it sound like the development just started or hasnt been going long at all
It might be a poor choice of words on the author's part. Again, given the lack of clarity in that quote, especially in context, and the general level of the writing, it seems to me that the author is giving the impression that the game is less complete than it is. We'll see when we get the demo, but I really wouldn't give it much mind.
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Post by Sustained on Jun 14, 2018 2:03:16 GMT -6
Seems like a rather knee-jerk reaction. I'll wait to try the demo myself rather than put all my expectation eggs in the basket of some random reviewer's opinion.
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Post by duomaxwell007 on Jun 14, 2018 2:21:57 GMT -6
Seems like a rather knee-jerk reaction. I'll wait to try the demo myself rather than put all my expectation eggs in the basket of some random reviewer's opinion.
What does that have to do with anything? My comment was in regards to the games release time frame, not the quality of the game itself. Thus playing the demo wouldnt change my mind at all, unless it happens to end with a surprise release date
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Post by Overlord on Jun 14, 2018 2:42:22 GMT -6
Seems like a rather knee-jerk reaction. I'll wait to try the demo myself rather than put all my expectation eggs in the basket of some random reviewer's opinion.
What does that have to do with anything? My comment was in regards to the games release time frame, not the quality of the game itself. Thus playing the demo wouldnt change my mind at all, unless it happens to end with a surprise release date
The quality of the music was brought into question, so a response like that does make sense.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2018 3:07:53 GMT -6
The music is done and it's amazing. I just don't think the reviewer was able to hear it for whatever reason. I admittedly don't know how private booths work, but isn't it hard to hear game audio at E3 in general?
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Post by XombieMike on Jun 14, 2018 5:44:36 GMT -6
Well, there will be some E3 streams today. IGA will be answering many questions and the most common question is indeed release date. I seriously doubt we will get a release date today, and not having a release date announced at E3 is a pretty obvious sign it won't be releasing this year. However, if it does get delayed to next year I don't think it will be past the first quarter.
Honestly I hope it is indeed next year. I want to play the demo, and give my feedback with a chance that changes will be made. If they are releasing this year, what we get in the demo will most certainly be what we get on release. There's no time to gather a lot of feedback and make adjustments if they are going to be pushing release to this many platforms.
So, not only do I expect a delay I hope for one. However, I believe I'm more patient and have more personally invested in this game than a lot of other people. I only say that because I know a huge chunk of backers are at the digital only lowest cost tier. It's not that those backers aren't as emotionally invested in playing, I just think they probably don't spend time every single day of their lives thinking and talking about Bloodstained like I do. I'd rather the team have time for adjustments I'd like to see than to play the game this year, but I totally understand the perspective of a huge chunk of fans who are already past their patience limit that just wanted to play already and be on to their next game.
E3 over hypes game announcements and that hype can screw up expectations for game that are barely in a state to talk about to the public. Kickstarter is even worse, as Bloodstained was a loose idea with few stretch goals when the campaign just started. We've switched developers, publishers, probably localization, a platform, and we have to port to Vita that sounded like a miricle in the first place to even make happen. We added many stretch goals and have heard that a staggered release is not what the team is among for. We haven't heard anything lately about release other than "we have no release date announced at this time". All signs point to next year. This is assuming that during the Q&A today the question isn't answered though. Stay tuned!
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Post by purifyweirdshard on Jun 14, 2018 7:40:33 GMT -6
The music is done and it's amazing. I just don't think the reviewer was able to hear it for whatever reason. I admittedly don't know how private booths work, but isn't it hard to hear game audio at E3 in general? Yeah probably, in some situations. There have also apparently been other builds of the game that didn't have music for some reason, like this famous "New Switch Gameplay Video" upload from February I hate that's just the 2017 demo lol (of course running on a PC). I am loathe to link this thing ugh. I don't want to embed this, and please only click on it if you have toIt has more views than like all of our official videos combined, and has led so many people in the comments to think it's "new" and means the game doesn't have music. I gave up trying to reply to everybody. edit: wow that might be the longest XombieMike post I've seen. hey bro!
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Post by Foffy on Jun 14, 2018 8:34:31 GMT -6
The fact they're not talking about a release at E3 kind of gives away their 2018 target is going to be completely missed.
How much it's missed by is the question.
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Post by Scars Unseen on Jun 14, 2018 9:56:34 GMT -6
Without giving credence to unverified IGN speculation, I'll just say this: if it happens, it happens. My only wish is for the final release to be as good a game as it can be. If that happens in 2018, great. If it takes until 2019, no one is going to care about that when they're playing the game again in 2029. They'll just remember the game's quality.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2018 10:35:49 GMT -6
If it takes until 2019, no one is going to care about that when they're playing the game again in 2029. They'll just remember the game's quality. That's a rather apt point I often forget. As someone who was born in 1995, it's surreal to read about Ocarina of Time's many storied delays. By the time I was old enough to be even vaguely aware of Zelda, it seemed as though it had always been around. Even games that I did actively wait in agony for, I'm surprised by how eerily easy it is to forget about that agony after release.
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Post by Cale on Jun 14, 2018 15:23:10 GMT -6
For me it is about openness. I never believed that it was going to be released 2017. Then I was told that the target release date was 2018. If it is delayed to 2019 I will be a little upset. Not hugely, but I appreciate sticking to a schedule. If it is really that unforeseeable I would have preferred "Release date: TBD" instead of 2018 target. I know it's not intentional, but it feels like my emotions are being toyed with. Notice me, senpai! B-baka!
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Post by Redogan on Jun 14, 2018 16:13:07 GMT -6
I don't think there will be another delay. I'm expecting full game release in December 2018 with some of the stretch goals organized into free DLC updates throughout 2019. I know they have said they don't want to do a staggered content release, but this is what I think will happen.
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Post by exalt9 on Jun 14, 2018 16:20:06 GMT -6
This game will get delayed to 2020.
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Post by Olrox on Jun 14, 2018 19:50:58 GMT -6
Honestly I don't mind a delay, at least Curse of the moon was released in 2018 and it surpassed my wildest expectations when it comes to a simple stretch goal project. I have seen the changes they did to the galleon compared to the last demo released and I'm pleased with the progress so far. Go back to the original galleon demo and play it side by side to the new one and the improvements are clear as the sky, orchestrated music instead of synth, excelent voice acting in dialogs, better lighting textures, details, enhanced 3D effects and overall presentation are better than ever. There are a few things I would change but I hope a constructive feedback will be given after the beta ends just like the last time and it will finish polishing the game to a level I'm comfortable with.
The press is gonna be extremely critical of Bloodstained after failed kickstarters like MN9, and if there is anything that I wouldn't stand is to see is this game getting 6s or 7s when I know it could very well be a 9 or a 10 if given time to be polished. I mean the entire gothic metroidvania genre hangs on to this game and I want more stories like what we had in curse of the moon, but for that to happen Ritual has to do well in the eyes of the public and critics. Half assing the game to release it early is not gonna help.
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Post by estebant on Jun 14, 2018 20:22:36 GMT -6
A little off topic... but were still seeing comments about the game needing a combo system. It makes me so angry when I see them.
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