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Post by darkbrotherhood on Jul 7, 2015 14:41:02 GMT -6
Well im back from work, and im amazed the defensive nature some people take. My points are very clear, he did not donated any money when he clearly stated he did. I provided you the evidence, its the man himself saying that he didnt donate anything to Keiji Inafune, this was the most recent podcast of bloodstainend of J-play. This contradicts what he said in the ending stream even of mighty n9, i dont know how any clearer of evidence i can provide when he himself admited it.
So for those that say he donated on the slacker backer on paypall, no he didnt cause the podcast was on the bloodstainend last days, and the slacker event was a year ago.
If a big guy like him is to stingy to even donate 5$ then I have all the right to be very wary of him. Like his friend said on the last bloodstainend event on twitch, all he does all day is watch the money flow in 24/7.
Now its my own right to find this a bit distastefull,and to share my views on a man knowing how to pull the right strings of the fan comunity. And no im not a Troll if people are offended by my views please feel free to close this, I didnt come with ill intend.
Just worried that this has been a trend of Kickstarter as of late. Also note that I have pledged for Bloodstainend, and im exited to get this game.
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Post by JeffCross on Jul 7, 2015 14:54:06 GMT -6
Well im back from work, and im amazed the defensive nature some people take. My points are very clear, he did not donated any money when he clearly stated he did. I provided you the evidence, its the man himself saying that he didnt donate anything to Keiji Inafune, this was the most recent podcast of bloodstainend of J-play. This contradicts what he said in the ending stream even of mighty n9, i dont know how any clearer of evidence i can provide when he himself admited it. So for those that say he donated on the slacker backer on paypall, no he didnt cause the podcast was on the bloodstainend last days, and the slacker event was a year ago. If a big guy like him is to stingy to even donate 5$ then I have all the right to be very wary of him. Like his friend said on the last bloodstainend event on twitch, all he does all day is watch the money flow in 24/7. Now its my own right to find this a bit distastefull,and to share my views on a man knowing how to pull the right strings of the fan comunity. And no im not a Troll if people are offended by my views please feel free to close this, I didnt come with ill intend. Just worried that this has been a trend of Kickstarter as of late. Also note that I have pledged for Bloodstainend, and im exited to get this game. ok dude this is a Bloodstained forum... sure I don't doubt he lied about that one thing. but it seems like you want us to hang the guy for this one sin... ok let he who is without sin cast the first stone. look darkbrotherhood it seems like you don't like the guy and that's your prerogative. but trying to start a witch hunt here is pointless. this is not what this forum is for. yes he is after money but in the video game business, as in many businesses, they need someone who is very money orientated.. but I doubt his love for games is false. so seriously dude, please chill... since you are part of the Army of the Night as is Ben Judd I still consider you a brother at arms... so let us soldier on
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Post by SML on Jul 7, 2015 15:05:29 GMT -6
I understand your distaste. I get rubbed the wrong way sometimes as we all do.
As long as I'm here you won't have any issues stating your opinion.
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Post by Kitti_W on Jul 7, 2015 22:40:35 GMT -6
I watched the video and got your point. But I still fail to see why it matters.
When you work so hard, go to like 10+ trade shows taking numerous interviews. Pitch the idea to 10+ publishers only for all of them to turn you down. But you still keep going.
All of that means nothing compared to the video you posted?
If you want an example of not doing a good job then check out Shenmue 3 KS. Especially the twitch q&a session.
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Post by SML on Jul 7, 2015 22:43:20 GMT -6
I apologize for posting negatively.
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Post by SML on Jul 7, 2015 22:46:38 GMT -6
I apologize for posting negatively.
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Post by Ravenspear on Jul 7, 2015 23:34:32 GMT -6
What are your opinions on Ben Judd. The question I ask since I found out the guy didnt even donated a single cent to the Mighty n9 campaign. Makes me very wary that he didnt either in the Bloodstainend Kickstarter. Also his company probably get a % total of the money, so the bigger the money donation the more money his own company makes. Thoughts? That video left me kind of cold, every person lie and you could only recently tell he was lying because he was honest about it. Personally, I'll blame that he didn't believe that kickstarter could be useful to him in his life in general to want to make an account back in 2013 (he joined may 2015). Somehow, wanting to interact with the backers changed his mind, I don't know, I don't really care. His pledge (toward Bloodstained) could be anywhere from 1 to 10000 and nobody except him really know, and a KS success does not depend on a single man pledge anyway. The only thing we can agree on is that he spoke (during MN9 campaign) without a second thought, but, the way I see it, it's a trivial matter. Would you have been happier if he took the time to create an account and to pledge a whole dollar to respect his word during the last 1-2 hours of MN9 campaign?
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Post by gunlord500 on Jul 8, 2015 0:11:13 GMT -6
Yeah, I'm with Ravenspear. I personally didn't want to donate to Bloodstained initially because I didn't trust kickstarter and didn't want to go through the trouble of making an account. I only donated once I found out you could do so via Paypal. Maybe Ben felt the same way. In any case, regardless of whether he donated or not to Bloodstained, he's done a lot of good work translating for IGA and generally keeping the community in on things, so as far as I'm concerned he's earned a place in the Army of the Night
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Post by DragonByDegrees on Jul 8, 2015 0:45:00 GMT -6
Who, why, and why phrase it that way?
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Post by darkbrotherhood on Jul 8, 2015 0:46:14 GMT -6
I supose you guys are right, he did help bring castlevania back in a way and donated for it I supose I could give the guy a chance. But he's still a corperate buisniss, and I just dont like corperation screwing with gamers, wich has been going on now for a long time.
As for shenmue 3 kickstarter that kicked me in the wrong way, how kickstarter is being used now these days, but thats another topic and i dont want to derail it.
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Post by benjuddge on Jul 8, 2015 0:56:48 GMT -6
Heya folks,
Just registered myself. It has been a very, very busy month. A key member left our company and I've been doing the work of 2 people. Honestly, I forgot about that! It was my first big Kickstarter and the closing stream was surreal. I remember planning to pledge after it was all over but life (and this job) moves so quickly that I just ended up getting pulled into the next project and not fulfilling what I said I was going to do. There was certainly no ill-will as I was very proud of being a part of that campaign and am a big Megaman fan but I can see how it would rub some people the wrong way. I can say this... I have helped Comcept in a great many ways so I feel I've shown my support through my time, advice, etc. Inafune-san was actually my old boss and when I first became an agent, I told him I'd assist for free in any way that I could including spending hours on translations, pitches etc before they became a client.
That still doesn't change the fact that I said I would do something and didn't so I guess I'll have to try harder and I certainly supported Bloodstained well above my means. And of course I'll be buying the game when it is out.
There are indeed things I can say about my clients and things I cannot say. That is by law, not by choice. I gave IGA and this campaign everything I had. Was averaging 3 - 4 hours of sleep and went above and beyond what an agent normally does. You see, I was a latchkey kid. Parents divorced at 6, lived in an area with very few kids my age, moved schools, and in general was very lonely growing up. I'm sure there are other posters here with similar backgrounds here. It got very bad and at once point the loneliness was almost unbearable. It was then that the NES came out and life changed. Games get a bad rap for violence, ruining grades, being nerdy etc. But it's my firm belief that they may just have saved my life and I always repay my debts. Those Japanese creators that made some of the best early games I played really helped me enjoy my youth more and that's the sole reason I work hard as an agent in Japan. Someone needs to help these super talented, super cool creators get new opportunities. Especially since now they are not being supported by Japanese publishers. For me it's not about money it's about paying it back. I did it with Inafune-san, I'm doing it with IGA, and you'll see a couple more from me in the future.
One more thing to add and that is, I find the idea of a Kickstarter community to be really great. We all shared some great experiences playing IGA games in the past and now we can share those memories, ideas, and feelings with like-minded people. That was one of the draws for me when posting in the comments section on the Kickstarter. Because I'm just like you and am just really excited for this game!
That's Ben Judd in a nutshell. Hopefully you'll keep me. Ben
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Post by Leon on Jul 8, 2015 1:03:20 GMT -6
Hey there, welcome to the forums, enjoy your stay~ And of course we'll be keeping you! Forever.
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Post by JeffCross on Jul 8, 2015 1:04:29 GMT -6
I supose you guys are right, he did help bring castlevania back in a way and donated for it I supose I could give the guy a chance. But he's still a corperate buisniss, and I just dont like corperation screwing with gamers, wich has been going on now for a long time. As for shenmue 3 kickstarter that kicked me in the wrong way, how kickstarter is being used now these days, but thats another topic and i dont want to derail it. cool dude. I don't like the business side of video gaming either but it is necessary... video games are not made from only positive thoughts and good ideas (trust me I tried that... didn't work). A solid business plan is needed... true the corporations are ruining video gaming these days e.g. call of duty, battlefield and the mobile game migrations many big companies are doing... that is what we should rise up against. so in short yes I am with you when fighting the big gaming corporations. they are ignoring our wants and needs as gamers and just want the big money. Let us trample them, under foot as we march over their battlefields, trample their call of duty and make them mobile no more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MARCH ARMY OF THE NIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by gunlord500 on Jul 8, 2015 1:39:07 GMT -6
Hey there, Ben! It's great to see you here, and thanks for being a sport. Like I said above, you've already done a lot for Bloodstained, IGA, and all us fans generally, so you've got nothing to prove in my book I certainly hope we'll be seeing more of you around here! With that said, boy, this place is picking up! I think a couple fangamer people signed up as well. Looks like our lil' forum is definitely a happenin' place! I do wonder if it might be good to have another group for folks like Ben, though (i.e verified project members). I'll ask Mike
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Post by SookyLala on Jul 8, 2015 1:47:20 GMT -6
Well im back from work, and im amazed the defensive nature some people take. My points are very clear, he did not donated any money when he clearly stated he did. I provided you the evidence, its the man himself saying that he didnt donate anything to Keiji Inafune, this was the most recent podcast of bloodstainend of J-play. This contradicts what he said in the ending stream even of mighty n9, i dont know how any clearer of evidence i can provide when he himself admited it. So for those that say he donated on the slacker backer on paypall, no he didnt cause the podcast was on the bloodstainend last days, and the slacker event was a year ago. If a big guy like him is to stingy to even donate 5$ then I have all the right to be very wary of him. Like his friend said on the last bloodstainend event on twitch, all he does all day is watch the money flow in 24/7. Now its my own right to find this a bit distastefull,and to share my views on a man knowing how to pull the right strings of the fan comunity. And no im not a Troll if people are offended by my views please feel free to close this, I didnt come with ill intend. Just worried that this has been a trend of Kickstarter as of late. Also note that I have pledged for Bloodstainend, and im exited to get this game. Damn you are sour. Man seriously, ever heard of paying with blood sweat and tears? Who cares if he didn't donate, if he wasn't around, this campaign wouldn't have done as well as it did, hell, Ben is the person that went from publisher to publisher to find someone to try and take this game. Not only has he personally attended the kickstarter comment section in order to make people feel welcomed and like their opinions matter, he's worked his ass off helping igarashi and co to get this game going. I think you need to grow up, and find real things to complain about.
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Post by JeffCross on Jul 8, 2015 1:52:41 GMT -6
Well im back from work, and im amazed the defensive nature some people take. My points are very clear, he did not donated any money when he clearly stated he did. I provided you the evidence, its the man himself saying that he didnt donate anything to Keiji Inafune, this was the most recent podcast of bloodstainend of J-play. This contradicts what he said in the ending stream even of mighty n9, i dont know how any clearer of evidence i can provide when he himself admited it. So for those that say he donated on the slacker backer on paypall, no he didnt cause the podcast was on the bloodstainend last days, and the slacker event was a year ago. If a big guy like him is to stingy to even donate 5$ then I have all the right to be very wary of him. Like his friend said on the last bloodstainend event on twitch, all he does all day is watch the money flow in 24/7. Now its my own right to find this a bit distastefull,and to share my views on a man knowing how to pull the right strings of the fan comunity. And no im not a Troll if people are offended by my views please feel free to close this, I didnt come with ill intend. Just worried that this has been a trend of Kickstarter as of late. Also note that I have pledged for Bloodstainend, and im exited to get this game. Damn you are sour. Man seriously, ever heard of paying with blood sweat and tears? Who cares if he didn't donate, if he wasn't around, this campaign wouldn't have done as well as it did, hell, Ben is the person that went from publisher to publisher to find someone to try and take this game. Not only has he personally attended the kickstarter comment section in order to make people feel welcomed and like their opinions matter, he's worked his ass off helping igarashi and co to get this game going. I think you need to grow up, and find real things to complain about. ummm... I think we should move on from this... right?
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Post by SookyLala on Jul 8, 2015 1:55:45 GMT -6
Damn you are sour. Man seriously, ever heard of paying with blood sweat and tears? Who cares if he didn't donate, if he wasn't around, this campaign wouldn't have done as well as it did, hell, Ben is the person that went from publisher to publisher to find someone to try and take this game. Not only has he personally attended the kickstarter comment section in order to make people feel welcomed and like their opinions matter, he's worked his ass off helping igarashi and co to get this game going. I think you need to grow up, and find real things to complain about. ummm... I think we should move on from this... right? Eh, I read the first post of this page and it annoyed me, I've said my piece, I'm finished
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Post by JeffCross on Jul 8, 2015 1:59:00 GMT -6
ummm... I think we should move on from this... right? Eh, I read the first post of this page and it annoyed me, I've said my piece, I'm finished cool, I am too... now let us run into the sunset hand-in-hand... or... not...?
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Post by McDerp on Jul 8, 2015 2:01:59 GMT -6
It was a very egregious error of an assumption to make that Ben didn't financially contribute, at the very least.
Anything else is an opinion, that was something that needed to be factually rectified.
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Post by SookyLala on Jul 8, 2015 2:02:48 GMT -6
Eh, I read the first post of this page and it annoyed me, I've said my piece, I'm finished cool, I am too... now let us run into the sunset hand-in-hand... or... not...? Sure, I wouldn't mind a sunset run.. On the beach?
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