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Post by kronfarfar on Jun 16, 2017 7:18:33 GMT -6
Now that we've seen the double jump I just hope they improve it to make it look more "stylish". I never liked it when the character just makes another simple jump in midair, it seems so uninspiring. So this is how Miriams double jump look in the E3 2017 build: linkCompare this to Alucard: linkAnd Shanoa: linkI know Jonathan's double jump in PoR looked about the same as in Bloodstained but like I said, it looks so bland. I'm just hoping they can add something extra, perhaps something to do with crystals/glass or even wings so it fits the character.
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Post by Yän on Jun 16, 2017 9:54:14 GMT -6
It'd probably suffice to add a glowy, shard-like particle effect at her feet upon her air jump. Easy to make and looks good.
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Post by purifyweirdshard on Jun 16, 2017 10:03:36 GMT -6
The concept art already had a...concept of what we assumed was a double jump, and I think that looked like it could work well. I do agree it's plain for now.
Or, maybe petals accompanying the glowing effect near her feet we're suggesting. There's also the possibility of a momentary materialization of a physical crystal platform, visible only for a few frames that she hops off of before it fades away, but I'm not sure how much work and animation we could have to work with.
Dante's double jumps in Devil May Cry are something similar, except with a magic circle of sorts instead.
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Post by freddythemonkey on Jun 16, 2017 11:14:53 GMT -6
Or, maybe petals accompanying the glowing effect near her feet we're suggesting. There's also the possibility of a momentary materialization of a physical crystal platform, visible only for a few frames that she hops off of before it fades away, but I'm not sure how much work and animation we could have to work with. Dante's double jumps in Devil May Cry are something similar, except with a magic circle of sorts instead. Yeah this basically.
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Post by niquita on Jun 16, 2017 12:22:30 GMT -6
I came to the same conclusion of this leap in fact fact that also in demo 2 were withdrawn the petalas on back of Miriam who makes an effect very pleasant would like to continue in the same way the demo 1 petals Effect imgur.com/XrVca60 Without petals imgur.com/5Kzi71D
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Post by exile on Jun 16, 2017 14:37:57 GMT -6
Yeah, these are the type of touches that add personality. As I said in another post, they seem like nothing, until you consider you're watching the same animation for dozens of hours of gameplay.
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Post by fatihG on Jun 16, 2017 19:00:00 GMT -6
I came into this topic to say maybe a materialized crystal platform that she uses to jump off from would be cool. But it was already suggested.
It could have been cool that once she does jump of a crystal platform it would break apart, similar to how the bloodless boss breaks at the end of the fight.
Something like Shanoas somersault could be cool as well, but I feel that the problem with that is that they have to cancel the animation when she attacks. So it could look a bit janky.
I always thought the cape wing flap of Alucard was super cool, but unfortunately Miriam doesn't have something like that that she could use, could be any magic really. Like Shanoa's wing glyph, instead of have it on always they just appear when she does a double jump.
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Post by JeffCross on Jul 3, 2017 18:34:10 GMT -6
yeah same here fatihG , I wanted to suggest something but most of it has been said... but I like the idea purifyweirdshard said about a platform... what if the platform was a flower or rose type platform that shatters into petals once it was "stepped" on for the double jump... But again not an original idea...hmmm.... here is an original one (kinda)... what if crystal skulls were "summoned" when she did the double jump instead of flowers lol... those skulls can make a pained look before shattering lol... or it can be both. anyone remember when Alucard would turn into a large gargoyle once in a while when he jumped and turned to stone?... what if it was a random thing for a skull to appear every-so-often when she double jumps? I think it should be so rare that people have to take a second look at it to make sure they saw it. Anyway, there is my 2 cents
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Post by exile on Jul 4, 2017 14:34:39 GMT -6
But again not an original idea...hmmm.... here is an original one (kinda)... what if crystal skulls were "summoned" when she did the double jump instead of flowers lol... those skulls can make a pained look before shattering lol... or it can be both. anyone remember when Alucard would turn into a large gargoyle once in a while when he jumped and turned to stone?... what if it was a random thing for a skull to appear every-so-often when she double jumps? I think it should be so rare that people have to take a second look at it to make sure they saw it. Anyway, there is my 2 cents Creative, but I'd prefer something a little less conspicuous. Something as commonplace as a double-jump, which will be used hundreds of times per playthrough, could get tiresome quickly if the visuals were too gimmicky. I think something both stylish and subtle would be my preference. A neat flip, a special animation for her legs, something along those lines. For those who proposed a faint outline of a crystal platform, that seems to fit the bill - neat, but not too distracting.
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Post by crocodile on Jul 4, 2017 16:23:41 GMT -6
Another consideration may be to have small magical wings sprout from her feet/shoes when she double jumps? As a substitution for the Alucard effect since she doesn't have a cape that can transform into wings.
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Post by Enkeria on Jul 5, 2017 14:30:39 GMT -6
One community feedback from one of the facebook groups - (By a person called Adrian Gallardo) "The double jump, maybe they could add a little holographic platform when she does the second jump. Sorta like how Dante does from the Devil May Cry series. It could look like a blueish rose with the stained glass look that breaks into pieces when the double jump commences." Figured it would take part here for CM Mana to eventually see the thread and posts. Source, if you are a part of the group on FB: www.facebook.com/groups/968812016483870/permalink/1602048226493576/Edit 2 Update from a FB group where I asked about the double jump. Holden Kesselring: I agree with Adrian on the topic of the familiars but if it does garner too much concern, maybe combine the mentioned aura effect with a little translucency to preserve that "made out of magic" vibe. I'd like to see crystalline wings for the double jump but I feel that other options would make more unless it dropped from a winged enemy Adrian Gallardo: Wings like the picture shown above? Holden Kesselring: yes, with a bit more color and shine added
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Post by Mana on Jul 6, 2017 3:00:36 GMT -6
Well, the double jump is still considered "unfinished" so I would assume they're going to improve something .
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Post by CastleDan on Jul 6, 2017 9:16:38 GMT -6
Well, the double jump is still considered "unfinished" so I would assume they're going to improve something . It wasn't a big issue more of a nitpick but it's definitely good to hear that there will be some work on it still
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Post by purifyweirdshard on Jul 6, 2017 9:24:23 GMT -6
I figured something else was coming, so there we go guys, something more to look forward to!
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Post by exile on Jul 6, 2017 23:39:11 GMT -6
Well, the double jump is still considered "unfinished" so I would assume they're going to improve something . I certainly didn't expect the team to add anything; it was more like wishful thinking, but that would certainly be cool. You guys are obviously putting a lot of thought into this. Love it.
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Post by neff on Jul 14, 2017 8:12:51 GMT -6
I kinda liked dmc1s version of a double jump, where it is implied a split second platform is conjured to make the 2nd jump.
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Post by djtanng on Jul 22, 2017 11:53:10 GMT -6
Maybe some small wings or something. Just nothing too distractive.
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Post by Monomona on Sept 20, 2017 10:22:05 GMT -6
We have to remember though the game isn't near completion, IGA himself said not too long ago it was only 20-30% done, so they might change it.
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Post by Enkeria on Sept 22, 2017 7:13:05 GMT -6
Well it is more done now, and Miriam have had a few updates since, double jump included.
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Post by kronfarfar on Sept 22, 2017 7:17:43 GMT -6
Well it is more done now, and Miriam have had a few updates since, double jump included. How do you know that Enkeria? Have you been floating around their office like a dullahammer head and picking up juicy info?!
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