Marvel vs Capcom Infinite (General)

Here is a topic we haven't touched upon yet. Music.

The returning fighters from previous MvC already have their own themes, especially the ones who are in MvC3 but what about the newcomers? X and Captain Marvel.

For me, X is a no-brainer. I would love a remix of X1 intro stage music.
For Captain Marvel, the jury is still out on that one. My guess would probably be a teaser of what the theme for the upcoming MCU movie will be.

Um guys. I think the CG and the gameplay stage is the X1 intro stage. A highway with busted vehicles, broken segments, and skyscrapers in the background. It's literally the X1 intro stage with updated visuals and different camera angles. In X1, we always had the side-view. In the gameplay, it looked as is we were going down the highway. In the CG part, we can take shots from any angle and distance.

Edit: I suppose it could be the highway leading up to the X3 intro stage but the X1 intro is too iconic to MMX fans. And let's not forget Egoraptor Meme worthy love of the X1 intro stage.

What I think will happen for MvC character music.
-A complete overhaul for the Marvel characters due to the Marvel Cinematic Universe being the front-and-center of the company now instead of the comics.
-Captain America: an instrumental version of "Star-Spangled Man" from the first Cap movie.
-Ant-Man: Something based on Ant-Man's theme from his movie.
-Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist: Remixes of their Netflix show themes.
-Doctor Strange: A remix of the end credits from his movie.
-Star-Lord: A "let's get as close to the original as possible while avoiding getting sued and because we would rather not have to pay for royalties" version of a song from the Guardians of the Galaxy soundtrack. I'd guess "Hooked on a Feeling" or "Come and Get Your Love."
-X: The X1 intro stage.
-All returning Capcom characters: remixes of their already existing themes.

Character music (and some characters) I actually want, and with any legal matters or self-imposed restrictions by Marvel and Capcom being a non-issue.
-Any returning Marvel character I don't list a change for would keep their existing MvC themes.
-Captain America: an instrumental version of "Star-Spangled Man" from the first Cap movie. I actually like that song.
-Ant-Man: Something based on Ant-Man's theme. I actually like that, too.
-Magneto: Keep his old theme from previous MvC games, but remove the speak-and-spell parts that were added in MvC3. I felt that was out-of-place for the character, especially since he is an old man who survived the Holocaust.
-Black Bolt: Black Bolt would not be in the game because I do not like him or any of the Inhumans characters except for Lockjaw.
-Lockjaw: Something like the dog barking credits music from that one Silent Hill game because he is a giant dog.
-Deadpool: Give his theme from MvC3 the Siivagunner treatment; keep the actual music, but replace the lyrics/vocals so that the ones from Wham!'s "Careless Whisper" fit with it.
-Spider-Man: A remix of the theme from Spectacular Spider-Man, but only if Josh Keaton returns as his VA.
-Super Doctor Astronaut Peter Corbeau: The music that plays whenever someone on the podcast "Jay and Miles X-Plain the X-Men" mentions Super Doctor Astronaut Peter Corbeau.
-Gene: The ending credits from God Hand.
-X: A remix the intro stage from X3 or X5 because they're both objectively better than the X1 intro stage in every possible way and anyone on the MvCI audio team who even thinks of having the X1 intro stage as his theme would get fired. I do not care if he has a stage based on the X1 highway because this is my list of things I actually want, and I like those other pieces of music better.
-Zero: A remix of his X3 theme because it's objectively better than any other theme he's had in every possible way.

B-but Goob, I like the intro to Zero's X2 song...especially when you hear it with the HP bar filling up, you kn--...

D:

The X4 one is pretty good...too...

Anyway, as far as Zero's inclusion...I don't know, man. I'd kind of rather X have his time to shine, finally. Zero has been in 3 (technically 4) fighting games to X's NONE, so I say give the guy some limelight. I'd hate it if he's overshadowed by Zero like he is in some of his own games, let alone the one time he actually makes it in a fighting game. I used to really like Zero as a character, but after him being really silly/broken in all these games already...ehhh

If we're getting 2-3 MMX character spots, I'd rather them go to other characters or villains. Zero could be used as kind of an X2/X3 call-in, maybe appear in X's level 3 or be a skin for the character. It makes more sense for Zero to be a skin for X than the other way around since originally Zero was closer to the same gameplay wise and had very little to no sword attacks at all, just a finisher to a full charge, etc. Speaking of, what could be kind of neat is that the Power Gem adds an extra level of charge to X's buster that does the X3 Z-saber slash. I have some more ideas for X, but I'll get into that later...

When I first saw Nightcaller post in here, I read his name as Nightcrawler and was surprised he didn't mention the character lol. Not as much of a Marvel fan though, I see. I could see that character being kind of Wesker-y, but he's also very much from the X-men era that they tend to avoid now, similar to like Gambit/Rogue...but it's actually kind of odd that he managed to avoid being in any Capcom games.

That's any character in any optimized run though, lol. Anything speed ran or completely fleshed out can appear to be ridiculous. I haven't seen those specifically, but I know from seeing a lot already...that's quite far from the normal gameplay experience.

At something near to a tool-assisted, frame perfect level, somewhere around the borderline of human ability, a really bad character/weapon/something can likely "break" the game as well as anything in some way or another.

So...bringing this back around to Marvel Infinite: balance. The Versus games have a reputation as being kind of busted, but that's a lot of what the fun is, honestly. When they toned it down for Marvel Super Heroes vs Street Fighter, the game just wasn't as interesting or fun to play. A certain degree of ridiculousness has to be there, and some fighting games find a great balance of options/variety vs balance. Guilty Gear XX: AC, Melty Blood CC and Arcana Heart are good examples of that.

That is how it feels to be an X-Men fan knowing that the series will never escape the shadows cast by Wolverine and Deadpool; Hugh Jackman and Deadpool cosplayers posting videos of themselves trying to be funny at comic cons have ruined everything. But I can forgive Hugh Jackman because he is a good actor, incredibly charming, and actually funny.

Come to think of it; Zero and Wolverine are pretty similar; they were both created by evil scientists whose work haunts them from beyond the grave, escaped captivity and ran around feral in the wild before becoming good guys, focus on close-range combat, keep coming back from the dead, have had to fight and kill their romantic interests at one point, overshadow main characters who lead their teams and wear blue and use projectiles to fight and have also quit their teams so they could take some time to think and reflect on life, have had shape-shifting buddies that are the butt of jokes with fans, they're really really old, deal with ridiculously convoluted and unclear timeline continuity issues, received unfair amounts of favoritism from the people who created them, and we'll be stuck with them forever whether we like it or not.


I'd rather not see that happen. Especially since that's the similar reasoning to what I saw fans and FGC members who didn't want X in MvC3 use to justify him (and classic Mega Man) being kept out of Vanilla and used an alt costume for Zero in Ultimate even though they were separate characters with different abilities. As much as I despise Zero and how Mega Man fans have put him on a pedestal to the point where he overshadows every other character in the whole series except for Classic series Mega Man, I'd rather not kick MvC and Zero fans in the balls like that. Giving Zero an X alt was never a good idea and just pissed off a lot of fans. Two wrongs wouldn't make a right.

Plus, what actually matters with characters (and art in general) isn't trivia about what was planned with them; what matters is what we actually ended up with/they became and the direction the creative people involved went in for finished games/stories over the years. Basing things on unused and changed ideas like that feels uncreative.

Having X, Zero, and Sigma representing Mega Man as a whole feels good to me. Something about two heroes with different moves and one villain from the same series on the Capcom side of the roster would just feel right. X was one of the most requested characters for MvC3, Zero's popular with fans and has clout as a top tier character in UMVC3, Sigma's a villain that can fit with Ultron on Marvel's side of the roster due to their similarities and he has eight games worth of moves to work with. Having all three of them together would looks like Capcom's willing to offer an olive branch to alienated fans and earn back the goodwill they lost since 2010.



I have a feeling the main reason behind that was because Nightcrawler wasn't heavily featured in the 90's Marvel cartoons or comics as much as as the other X-Men characters who ended up in Capcom's 90's X-Men games, and there weren't any sprites to recycle for MvC 1 and 2.

The MMZ Zero was already in MvC2, I believe.

As much as I personally like playing as Zero in the X games, I think it should just be X in MvC Infinite this time.

EDIT: SNK vs. Capcom: SVC Chaos, not MvC2.

Ah, okay. My mistake then! (Didn't even check at the time. I had to go buy groceries.)

lol, nice X1 reference.