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Post by Galamoth on Jan 3, 2019 16:44:47 GMT -6
   So, is anyone else in these fine forums a fellow GUNDAM fan?For anyone who's been keeping up with the Gundam franchise since June of last year, this may seem like old news... but jeez, am I late!! I did want to post a new topic about the new Gundam "Narrative" movie back then, but never got around to it. Speaking of the movie, here's the trailer for Mobile Suit Gundam Narrative in-case anyone hasn't seen it yet: This movie has been in Japanese theaters since November 30th, and an English dub is confirmed to be in the works. Before I move on and list the five upcoming 40th Anniversary Projects, there was also confirmation of a "continuation" of IRON-BLOODED ORPHANS announced on the series' official Twitter account. Since I can't read Japanese that well, I don't know if they specifically mean a sequel (like a 3rd Season) or a movie, maybe a prequel? And with these out of the way... 40th Anniversary "Beyond" - Five Newest Projects ( en.gundam.info/news/hot-topics/news_hot-topics_20181121_012.html) #1. Mobile Suit Gundam THE ORIGIN - TV Series Adaptation (originally a manga, it was adapted into a six-part OVA, and is now being changed into a thirteen-episode series) " THE ORIGIN" functions as both a prequel & retelling for the One-Year War of the main Universal Century timeline; during which the events of the original Mobile Suit Gundam took place. #2. New "Gundam Build Series" ProjectPresumably a sequel to "Build Fighters" and "Build Divers". #3. "SD Gundam World Sangoku Soketsuden"This ought to be another goofy & lighthearted series. #4. Gundam Reconguista in G - Theatrical Adaptation (Originally a 26-episode series by returning director Yoshiyuki Tomino) " Reconguista in G" is set thousands of years after the end of the Universal Century, possibly longer. The newly established Capital Army aims to prevent those living in space from attempting "Reconguista"; recolonization of Earth. #5. Mobile Suit Gundam: Hathaway's Flash - Theatrical Adaptation (Originally a trilogy of novels written by Yoshiyuki Tomino) The novels are set 12 years after the events of "Char's Counterattack", as Hathaway adopts an alias and leads the terrorist organization "Mufti" in attacks against the Earth Federation with intentions of rooting out corruption. (Does the plot of this sound at all familiar? ...Assuming you've watched Iron-Blooded Orphans...) I'm not stopping here. Here are the "Key Visuals" crossover posters that were released in collaboration as part of the series' 40th-Anniversary celebration:Banagher? meet Amuro ELS Setsuna offers flower to Mikazuki
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Big-time Gundam fan here. I am aware of all this, yes. (There is actually some debate over whether or not IBO is getting a follow-up in a traditional sense, or if it'll just be a manga or stage play or something of that nature.There's actually a similar story going around about Gundam 00, too.) I don't know what to make of the crossover posters. Are they just a visual tribute, or does it mean something more for those entries? But I have to say, the franchise has been a mixed bag for a while for me. I got to see the free 20-something-minute preview offered of Gundam Narrative (subtitled), and it was both enjoyable and promising, better than I expected...yet not exactly something I think will be super memorable and go down in the history books for me. The Gundam Thunderbolt OVAs, while uneven, have also been better than I expected--some of the best Gundam animation I've seen in a while maybe in terms of the action side of things. Gundam: The Origin I still haven't seen the last OVA of yet, but while it started out strong, it started to fade around the fourth OVA episode, in my opinion. Gundam IBO I really didn't care for much at all. There were a few things I could respect about what it was trying to achieve emotionally, but it was kind of a slog that didn't pay off for me. Gundam Unicorn had its moments, but tried too hard to be an homage to all of the Universal Century, and came off a bit flat and disjointed by the end. Skipped Reconguista and basically all of the Build Fighters stuff... Gundam 00 may have been the closest to being something special lately to me, but I didn't like the second season very much at all; the movie was a decent capstone. I don't have a lot of expectations for Hathaway's Flash or the Hollywood live-action Gundam movie. I picked up and am trying to catch up with Turn-A Gundam right now. It's interesting and very different and very well done, but I'm not sure how to rank it yet. I need to see more...
I was having a conversation a little while back about what I felt about specific Gundams, and while it wasn't easy, I made this list not too long ago. These are my general opinions, mind you. I ranked them by tiers, not individual entries, which would be even harder.
TOP TIER (Best of the best, even with some flaws)
Gundam Wing (TV series)
Gundam 0080: War in the Pocket (OVA series)
Mobile Fighter: G-Gundam (TV series)
Gundam: The 08th MS Team (OVA series/movie)
Gundam 0083: Stardust Memory (OVA series)
After War: Gundam X (TV series)
Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz (OVA series/movie)
Mobile Suit Gundam 0079 (TV series)
UPPER MIDDLE TIER (A lot of really good concepts and scenes, but they come up a little short in one area or another)
Gundam SEED (TV series)
Gundam SEED Destiny (TV series)
Gundam 00 Season 1 (TV series)
Gundam 00 The Movie: A Wakening of the Trailblazer (movie)
Gundam Thunderbolt (OVA series/movies)
Gundam F-91 (movie)
Gundam: Char's Counterattack (movie)
Gundam: The Origin (OVA series)
MIDDLE TIER (Pockets of great moments, but they don't leave a really strong lasting impression)
Gundam Unicorn (OVA series)
Iron-Blooded Orphans Season 1 (TV series)
Iron-Blooded Orphans Season 2 (TV series)
LOWER TIER (They're still Gundam, so they're not without some merit, but they fall really short in the execution department)
Gundam 00 Season 2 (TV series)
G-Saviour (movie)
HAVE NOT SEEN ENOUGH OF (OR ANY OF) to make a final opinion:
Turn-A Gundam (Almost halfway through, right now it's in the Upper Middle Tier probably...)
Victory Gundam (Curious about this one...)
Zeta Gundam (I've only seen half of it, never got around to finishing it, and right now I'd put it somewhere around the Middle to Upper Middle Tier...)
Gundam ZZ (Think it'll be too goofy for me...)
Gundam AGE (Think it'll be too goofy for me...) Reconguista in G (Mildly curious about this one...)
Gundam Build Fighters (and its many spinoffs/sequels) (Think it'll be too goofy for me...)
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Post by Galamoth on Jan 4, 2019 12:45:10 GMT -6
I don't know what to make of the crossover posters. Are they just a visual tribute, or does it mean something more for those entries? I believe they are just a visual tribute. No other announcements of any crossovers regarding those series have been made. ALSOPure Miriam Here's a list of basic Timeline information that I know of for each Gundam series. This should make it much less confusing for anyone who isn't too familiar. (This list will not include manga, novels, remakes, or standalone shorts. Just the anime series, movies, and OVAs.) UNIVERSAL CENTURY (Examples of calender dates used: "U.C.0079" & "U.C.0153") Mobile Suit Gundam ( late 0079) -> 08th MS Team ( late 0079) -> 0080: War in the Pocket ( December 0079 ~ January 0080) -> 0083: Stardust Memory ( 0083) -> Zeta Gundam ( 0087) -> ZZ Gundam ( 0088) -> Char's Counterattack ( 0093) -> Gundam Unicorn ( 0096) -> Twilight Axis ( late 0096) -> Gundam Narrative ( 0097) -> Hathaway's Flash ( 0105) -> Gundam F91 ( 0123) -> Victory Gundam ( 0153) There are two other shows that don't use the Universal Century calendar, but are actually part of the same timeline; Turn A Gundam ("Correct Century"; CC2343) and Gundam Reconguista in G ("Regild Century"; RC1014). The former takes place thousands of years after the Universal Century (from the "Dark History" events), and the latter is set one-thousand years after Turn A. The rest of the Gundam shows out there are set in alternate timelines, completely separate from the Universal Century.Mobile Fighter G. Gundam takes place in the FUTURE CENTURY timeline; specifically in the year " FC60". Mobile Suit Gundam Wing takes place in the AFTER COLONY timeline; starting in " AC195", and the " Endless Waltz" movie is set just one year later. <- EDIT: (I could also include the MARS CENTURY here... but that calendar-change is part of a manga sequel to Wing's events.) After War Gundam X takes place early in the AFTER WAR timeline; starting in " AW0015", this alternate timeline shares the most similarities with the Universal Century. Mobile Suit Gundam SEED & SEED Destiny are set in the COSMIC ERA timeline; SEED starts in " CE 71", and SEED Destiny starts late in " CE73". <- EDIT: (I could've included " CE 73: Stargazer" here, but that's a relatively short ONA that occurs concurrently with SEED Destiny.) Mobile Suit Gundam OO is set in an alternate ANNO DOMINI timeline (still using our current calendar), nearly three-hundred years from now; the first season starts in 2307 A.D., and the second season is a five-year timeskip to 2312 A.D., while the " A Wakening of the Trailblazer" movie is set in 2314 A.D.. Mobile Suit Gundam AGE is set in the ADVANCED GENERATION timeline; The story is split into four arcs, featuring three generations of protagonists of the Asuno family. 115 A.G. is the "Flit Arc", 140 A.G. is the "Asemu Arc", 164 A.G. is the "Kio Arc", and the final arc (set one month later) is the "Three Generations Arc". Last, but not least... Mobile Suit Gundam IRON-BLOODED ORPHANS is set in the POST DISASTER timeline; starting in " P.D. 323", over three-hundred years after the "Calamity War" event. That's all I know. For now. :3 |
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Post by RichterB on Jan 4, 2019 15:59:37 GMT -6
UNIVERSAL CENTURY (Examples of calender dates used: "U.C.0079" & "U.C.0153") Mobile Suit Gundam ( 0079) -> 08th MS Team ( late 0079) -> 0080: War in the Pocket ( 0080) -> 0083: Stardust Memory ( 0083) -> Zeta Gundam ( 0087) -> ZZ Gundam ( 0088) -> Char's Counterattack ( 0093) -> Gundam Unicorn ( 0096) -> Twilight Axis ( late 0096) -> Gundam Narrative ( 0097) -> Hathaway's Flash ( 0105) -> Gundam F91 ( 0123) -> Victory Gundam ( 0153) There are actually two other shows that don't use the Universal Century calendar, but are actually part of the same timeline; Turn A Gundam ("Correct Century"; CC2343) and Gundam Reconguista in G ("Regild Century"; RC1014). The former takes place thousands of years after the Universal Century (including the "Dark History" events), and the latter is set a thousand years after Turn A. The rest of the Gundam shows out there are set in alternate timelines, completely separate from the Universal Century...After War Gundam X is set at the very beginning of the AFTER WAR timeline; oddly, this alternate timeline shares the most similarities with the Universal Century. ... That's all I know. For now. :3 Great summary overall! A few addendum: Technically, Gundam 0080 takes place primarily in December U.C. 0079. Also, the recent Gundam Thunderbolt OVA/Movie series starts in December U.C. 0079 and then continues into U.C. 0080. 8th MS Team starts roughly after Episode 10 of the original Gundam 0079 TV series. The recent Gundam: The Origin OVA series takes place prior to Mobile Suit Gundam 0079, starting in U.C. 0068, thereby making it the first story in the U.C. timeline (and fairly spoiler-heavy in a Star Wars prequel sort of way). However, this series is based on a manga reimagining, and so not every single detail will necessarily line up perfectly with the original TV series it leads into.
In terms of the Dark History, technically, it seems to me the secret of Turn-A Gundam seems to be that all of the timelines are secretly connected, even if in a superficial manner.
Interestingly about Gundam X, it feels, looks, and acts the most like Wing to me, even as it has heavy references to U.C. One of the later arcs (Estard Arc) feels like lost episodes of Gundam Wing.
Gundam Wing is pretty unique in the pantheon in terms of how it mixes its concepts, and I love it for that. Probably still my favorite Gundam series for how comprehensive it is. I always say that some Gundam series have done individual things better, but none have covered quite as much ground in one series as Wing. Regardless, if you're looking to ease back in with something like Wing, there's only a few choices:
Gundam X: It mixes more U.C. concepts with the ragtag nature and diversity of action/scenarios that Wing had. And visually, it looks the most similar to Wing. It's a bit on the slow side at times, but its more deliberate than plodding, in my mind. Regrettably, it has never been dubbed. A remaster has been released in Japan, and should come overseas sometime in the next two years based on what I've seen. If you like personality, it has one of my favorite casts of characters in the Gundam franchise.
Gundam 00: This series tried to be Gundam Wing for the next generation. It succeeds in its basic presentation, but it feels more superficial and rushed overall than Wing. With a bit more care, it could have been a lot better. I think Gundam X was a better successor to Wing, personally.
G-Gundam: This series has an awkward mixture of comedy and extreme drama, but it has a kindred spirit to Gundam Wing in how it handles its pilots.
Gundam 08th MS Team: It has some of Wing's personality, but is set in a more traditional war setting, which is a good primer for those curious about the Universal Century (though it does spoil a few things from the original 0079 series).
Gundam 0080: For pure, tight storytelling, there might not be a better Gundam. It's a powerful short story with intriguing characters and creative action sequences.
Gundam 0083: A nice race-against-time sort of story with fantastic animation, but its heroes are much less interesting than its villains, and tend to be on the annoying side.
Gundam SEED: It's a lot more "emo" and "pop-culturey" than Wing, and it has some pacing issues, but it does a good job blending the flash and substance of Wing with the hero's journey structure of a more traditional Universal Century series. (Its follow-up, Gundam SEED Destiny is wilder and more philosophical, but it is also far more unbalanced in plotting, causing for a disjointed impression.)
(SEE UNDERLINED EDIT NOTE BELOW FOR WHAT MIGHT BE THE BEST RECOMMENDATION)
Anyway, you can start in with any Alternate Universe title that Galamoth noted (i.e. anything that begins a timeline that doesn't include U.C. in its year.) You can also watch the U.C. timeline out of order, which I have done. A lot of them are enjoyable on their own merits. The only issue with that is spoiling various plot points from other U.C. entries. I can understand how this can be challenging, and even I am unsure what to recommend, because it depends on what you liked most about something like Gundam Wing: Was it the characters, the story, the politics/philosophy, the mecha design, the action? Was it all of the above? Depending on what pieces are most important to you, you will feel different about every Gundam series you encounter. I think my biggest issue with Gundam as time has gone on is how it feels more "safe" and "focus-tested." It doesn't feel very organic anymore, to the point where I felt the recent Iron-Blooded Orphans was unsure what it wanted to be, who it wanted to appeal to, and where it wanted to take its story.
EDIT: I think to purely understand the core of the Gundam franchise, and enter fully into the U.C. timeline, you have to see the original Mobile Suit Gundam 0079 in some manner. Most recommend the sub-only compilation movies (a trilogy). That's the fastest way to get through it, but it does make some changes and leave out some really enjoyable scenes/subplots, in my opinion, even as it does make some improvements here and there. Really...I actually think the new best way to get into the Universal Century might be to watch Gundam: The Origin. It has the same sort of spoilers you get from watching the Star Wars prequels before A New Hope, if that's an issue, but it does a really good job getting you emotionally invested in the world in a short time, and its pretty well animated...especially considering the original series is a late-70s animation (good for what it is, but limited in some respects by the time it was made in.) The Origin was a OVA series, but its getting a broken-up TV adaptation in 2019.
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Post by Pure Miriam on Jan 4, 2019 17:13:14 GMT -6
thank you for that, gonna take a look at it.
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Post by Galamoth on Jan 4, 2019 20:27:24 GMT -6
RichterB Yeah, I deliberately left "THE ORIGIN" out of that UC list because while it technically serves as a prequel (starting 11 years before the One-Year War), it's also a remake in a sense, featuring redesigns & revisiting story points that the original Mobile Suit Gundam does. Though yes, it might be better for a new viewer to watch that over the original anime. And yeah, I'm embarrassed that I forgot about Thunderbolt.  Personally, I'm most excited for the Hathaway's Flash movie adaptation. It's finally entering UC canon, rather than Tomino trying to rewrite certain events out of existence in the novel trilogy, so I do wonder what will be Hathaway's ("Mufti's") main motivation this time. If the ending of the Hathaway's Flash movie is anything like the original novels... I think we may be in for another IBO S2 feels-train. Interesting how I say I'm excited for this movie... when I actually hate the character of Hathaway. I sure like the designs of the Xi Gundam & the Messer team, though. You also mentioned in your first reply that there may be a continuation of Gundam OO as well. I did hear about the "Re:Vision" stage play last year, but I wonder if they're doing anything else for that series.
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Post by Galamoth on Jan 5, 2019 18:26:52 GMT -6
Enkeria Here you go. Third post should be a good enough guide if you want to start watching Gundam.
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Post by Enkeria on Jan 6, 2019 6:21:17 GMT -6
Thanks, will take a look after I am done with Jojo Bizarre Adventures. Only on S1, see how goes.  |
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Post by aluc4rd on Jan 6, 2019 10:58:18 GMT -6
I was having a conversation a little while back about what I felt about specific Gundams, and while it wasn't easy, I made this list not too long ago. These are my general opinions, mind you. I ranked them by tiers, not individual entries, which would be even harder.
TOP TIER (Best of the best, even with some flaws)
Gundam Wing (TV series)
Gundam 0080: War in the Pocket (OVA series)
Mobile Fighter: G-Gundam (TV series)
Gundam: The 08th MS Team (OVA series/movie)
Gundam 0083: Stardust Memory (OVA series)
After War: Gundam X (TV series)
Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz (OVA series/movie)
Mobile Suit Gundam 0079 (TV series)
i highly recommend Gundam AGE , it has interesting Character Development and the main villain looks like Alucard!
Gundam Build Fighters + Tri+Divers all are worth it because it celebrates all the old series and it looks like a cross between G Gundam and Plawres Sanshiro Joumaro, if you were a true Gundam Fan you would appreciate this series the most
The top 3 must watch should be : Gundam Wing
Gundam Destiny+2nd Season
Gundam 00+2nd Season
runner ups
Gundam G
Gundam 0083 OVA Gundam X
if anyone watched all of those Gundam 79+Gundam Z (must be watched in that order), isn't easy to watch for new comers, but for History sake, they should be experienced to understand the World also Z and ZZ mecha Designs will be Popular on the other sequels and it will help understand its origin,
Gundam Build Fighter series would mean so much after that, especially after watching Wing and Gundam G
if Gundam Wing was your first show and enjoyed it more of the same, watch them in this order: Gundam wing+Endless Waltz OVA - Gundam X - Gundam 00+S2, Gundam AGE, Gundam Reconguista in G
if you liked Gundam StarDust Memory 0083 OVA watch in this order: Gundam 79 Series or Movies - Gundam Z - Gundam Unicorn 7 OVA, Gundam F91, Gundam War in the Pocket, MS Team 0080
if you liked Super Super Robot wars like Mazinkaiser and Grendizer, watch Gundam G - Gundam Wing - Gundam Build Fighters Tri - Gundam Build Fighters island wars - Gundam Build Divers
once you are done, check out Code Gease (not Gundam, but Highly Recomended becuase it celebrates the work of Gundam)
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Post by RichterB on Jan 6, 2019 15:50:43 GMT -6
Galamoth , well it seems we have our answer about new IBO: www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2019-01-06/gundam-iron-blooded-orphans-anime-gets-spinoff-in-app/.141698It's going to be a spin-off OVA built into a smartphone game, apparently...
And here I thought, based on how IBO Season 2 ended that any new project would be a "Ride's Counterattack" Also, regarding your question about Gundam 00's future, while the stage play was one project announced, supposedly a new anime-related project was also announced: www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-04-15/gundam-00-anime-gets-sequel-project/.130390 & also: www.inquisitr.com/4868393/mobile-suit-gundam-00-season-3-release-date-anime-director-new-gundam-00-sequel-movie-tv-series/And the stage play also introduced some new designs, which I assume might be worked into any future sequel: www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-04-15/gundam-00-10th-anniversary-stage-reading-introduces-new-character-mecha/.130401aluc4rd I haven't yet ruled out Gundam AGE, just cautious toward it. I will say that the mechanical designs largely appealed to me, especially the enemy designs, and it has an amazing opening theme. (The character designs I'm a little iffy on.) I'm sure I'll get around to it eventually. Even being a longtime Gundam fan, it's hard to keep up with everything.
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Post by Galamoth on Jan 6, 2019 18:36:47 GMT -6
RichterB Well, while a smartphone game isn't too surprising, the name of the main Gundam in it is unexpected... considering the naming convention of Gundams in both the IBO anime and the "Gekko" side-story manga. "Hajiroboshi" instead of one of the 72 Demons. It makes me wonder if it even is one of the original 72, just modified and renamed, so to that end I hope its original designation is revealed. Huh... I certainly missed that link for plans regarding a 00 sequel project. I've heard about the new Gundam designs, though. Also that Graham Aker becomes a Gundam Meister, and is the pilot of the Exia R4. That certainly confirms him surviving his apparent death in "A Wakening of the Trailblazer" when he blows up his own mobile suit; he took a page out of Heero Yuy's book.
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Post by RichterB on Jan 8, 2019 15:59:18 GMT -6
To anyone new or new-ish, I thought having some trailers might be helpful (some of these have since been remastered since these trailers) This isn't comprehensive, mind you, as some series simply don't have true trailers, but here are a few to get you intrigued: ORIGINAL UNIVERSE (i.e. interconnected series, ovas, movies):Universal Century Timeline:Mobile Suit Gundam: The Origin:
Mobile Suit Gundam 0079:
Gundam 08th MS Team:
Gundam 0080: War in the Pocket:
Gundam 0083: Stardust Memory:
ALTERNATE UNIVERSES (i.e. stand-alone timelines):After Colony Timeline:Gundam Wing:
Future Century Timeline:Mobile Fighter G-Gundam:
Cosmic Era Timeline:Gundam SEED:
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Post by Galamoth on Jan 8, 2019 17:55:28 GMT -6
I might as well take time in this reply to show off some non-Gundam mobile suit designs from the Universal Century. (Coincidentally, these are also some of my favorite designs) MS-18E Kämpfer (from 0080: War in the Pocket) Affiliation: Principality of Zeon (Cyclops Team)  RMS-154 Barzam (from Zeta Gundam) Affiliation: Earth Federation (Titans) PMX-000 Messala (from Zeta Gundam) Affiliation: Earth Federation (Titans)Below is a redesign, here is the original as seen in the show.  AMX-109 Capule (from ZZ Gundam) Affiliation: Axis Zeon & Zeon RemnantsNOTE: This mobile suit design is seen again in Gundam Unicorn and in Turn A Gundam, renamed "Kapool" in the latter. AMX-011 Zaku III (from ZZ Gundam) Affiliation: Axis Zeon ARX-014 Silver Bullet (from Gundam Unicorn) Affiliation: Vist Foundation & Earth FederationNOTE: Notice how this mobile suit has a "Gundam" head. It can be difficult to define what a "Gundam" is, but this machine is not considered a "Gundam". Me-02R Messer (from Hathaway's Flash) Affiliation: "Mufti" (anti-Federation terrorist group)  LM111E02 Gun-EZ (from Victory Gundam) Affiliation: League Militaire (formed due to weak state of Earth Federation in U.C.0153)  ZMT-S34S Rig Contio (from Victory Gundam) Affiliation: Zanscare Empire |
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Post by RichterB on Jan 11, 2019 13:52:10 GMT -6
Staff announced for Hathaway's Flash: www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2019-01-11/gundam-hathaway-flash-anime-film-trilogy-trailer-reveals-staff/.141931Okay Galamoth , now I'm a bit more interested in Hathaway's Flash. Shukou Murase, director of Witch Hunter Robin, Ergo Proxy, Gangsta, Genocidal Organ, and character designer for Gundam Wing, Gasaraki, Street Fighter II: The Movie, and Night Warriors: Darkstalkers' Revenge is directing the trilogy. He has a really good eye for artistic directing and helps bring out subtleties in even adapted works. I'm not intimately familiar with the Hathaway Flash source material, but I know the gist of it. I've never been a fan of Hathaway, so that's a problem they're going to have to fix for me, and based on summaries, I don't see how its portrayal of the Federation matches the state we see the Federation in shortly after in F-91. We'll see how this is all finessed, especially with the changes they'll have to make to Tomino's alternate novel universe concepts.
PS: The Kampher is the design I probably like the most of the ones you posted. But there's some interesting ones there, yeah.
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Post by Galamoth on Jan 11, 2019 14:26:40 GMT -6
RichterB Glad you uploaded that news link before me! The feelings on Hathaway are mutual, my friend. As I hinted in a previous reply, I actually hated his character back then... and for more reasons than just his interaction with Quess. I'm REALLY hoping that Shukou Murase can "fix" him (e.g. make him more likeable) in the Hathaway's Flash movie trilogy. At the same time, I'm also worried about how the events of this adaptation will end in relation to canon events. I think it's safe to assume that this movie trilogy will officially be considered part of the UC continuity, rather than the odd "semi-canon" state of the original novels; "Beltorchika's Children" included. ^ Meanwhile, I just want to see if the Me-02R "Messer" will get a redesign. In my opinion, it's still the coolest-looking "Late" UC mobile suit. The trailer didn't show much other than the backside of the RX-104FF Penelope ( Lane Aim's Gundam). It's good that Yasuyuki Mutou is on-board too. But, still speaking of Hathaway... Did you know that Suda51's dream project is to make a Gundam video-game based on Hathaway's Flash? P.S. Reply: It's easily one of [early] Zeon's best MS designs. If only it had a Sleeves-redesign in Gundam Unicorn...
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Post by Saint Germain on Jan 14, 2019 10:44:31 GMT -6
I am a huge G gundam fan, enjoyed 00 even though I hate the "good guys" still not annoying as wings "heroes". My favorite gundam has to be the mummy gundam and all the tallgeese. Have yet to see Iron blood last new one I watched was 00 Sorry for late responce to tagging have not been active on here for awhile.    |
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Post by Galamoth on Jan 14, 2019 17:10:26 GMT -6
Personally, I enjoy watching the main cast of Wing, but I can understand why some would question their status as "good guys". After all, these odd scenes with Heero definitely happened: OUR HERO, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN!!!(Don't read the spoiler if you haven't seen the show) Incidentally, it's been revealed that Heero Yuy is in fact blood-related to one of the 'bad guys' in the show; Trant Clark, the guy who tries to pilot Wing Zero after Quatre & Heero initially leave it behind. Oh, how I remember watching the Toonami Midnight Run airing of the show. |
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Post by Galamoth on Jan 15, 2019 19:18:46 GMT -6
While we wait for more news on these projects, I'll post a piece of fan-art for (in my opinion) one of the coolest Gundam designs from the Universal Century. RX-104FF Penelope (from Hathaway's Flash) Affiliation: Earth Federation ( "Circe" special forces) Pilot: Lane AimeThis mobile suit, and its flight unit, are the final product of "Project Zeta", which was started with the MSZ-006 Zeta Gundam. The "Penelope" is the vaguely bird-like flight unit, while the mobile suit itself is the "RX-104 Odysseus Gundam".  |
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Post by DarkPrinceAlucard on Jan 16, 2019 1:32:10 GMT -6
I'm actually a big Gundam fan from the early Toonami days and later Adult Swim days, my top 5 are,
Gundam Wing
Gundam Seed
Gundam 00
G Gundam
Gundam F91
The last one I watched was Gundam Iron Blooded Orphan's and SPOILER ALERT hated how it ended on such a sad note.
To be honest I haven't been keeping up with much Gundam news as of late, does anyone know why some Gundam series like Turn a Gundam can't be dubbed due to Sunrise but how Gundam Iron Blooded Orphins as well as Gundam Origins do get dubs?
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